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At least Sasuke and Sakura have way more interactions than NaruHina. lel
At least they didn't get a forced garbage filler-ish movie to make up for their lack of interactions throughout the manga.
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At least they didn't get a forced garbage filler-ish movie to make up for their lack of interactions throughout the manga.
I don't disagree that Naruhina leaves a lot to be desired with and is somewhat forced. The thing is Sasusaku literally has negative development in part 2. It also was forced since even the things like the novels and filler can't show them together because it would be so weird and Sasuke would have to be so out of character it is better to ignore it. Plus they do not even have a real marriage. While Naruto may be busier than his family may like he at least lives in the same village with them and comes home at night. Sasuke literally sees his family and kid less than many divorced parents. He somehow managed to be even more antisocial and spend more time away while married than he did before he was married.
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Sasuke had a negative interaction with literally everyone in part 2, that wasn't exclusive for Sakura. He tried to kill Naruto many times and they are best friends now.
Be honest, do you really see Sasuke living in Konoha, after all the village did to him/he did to the village? As much as I'd love to see Sasuke living the american dream with his family in Konoha, I'm pretty sure that will never happen.
Plus, Sasuke's character changed, now he got that wanderer lifestyle.
That wasn't the rule. Stick to your word.
We were talking about how many interactions they had in Manga form, not anything else. And I even clarified it a few times before I started it a week ago.
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The whole purpose of this bet was to prove that NaruHina is a forced pairing and they only had 38 interactions throughout the manga, to begin with. Without the scans from the Hokage Day special/Gaiden/The Last (where the pairing had already happened), and using the scans of the 700 official chapters, there are only 38 scans of them interacting with each other. You lost.
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The purpose of the bet was to see how many manga panel interactions they had from start to finish.
We bet on EVERY SINGLE MANGA interaction, and I clarified that with you. Discounting all the canon movies.
If we were betting on NaruHina as a pairing to see whether or not it was forced, we would have to include many more panels which Naruto/Hinata discuss/worry/think about each other despite not even being in the same vicinity as each other.
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And what kind of interactions were they? Oh, yeah. Sasuke trying to kill Sakura's dumbass three times and treating her like garbage for 90% of the entire series.
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But I have to admit it, both NaruHina and SasuSaku are entirely forced and make no sense. But at least, Naruto and Hinata weren't built based on abusiveness in a relationship like SasuSaku was.
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People are retarded for shipping these two, including so called "Sakura fans", because this pairing totally disrespects her character in every single light. But people will always deny this.
SasuSaku is a sexist, abusive pairing in general.
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Aww, what a wonderful couple.
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Sasuke x Mei.
It gives a message that if a guy doesn't desire you, he's evil. If he rejects you, you should never respect his wishes and keep shoving yourself in his face and win the chance to bed him through disgusting guilt-tripping and revolting persistence, which is called true love by Sakura and SS fanatics; a love where Sasuke's life and perspectives are nowhere to be found. This is nothing but misandry, right there. Honestly, she had it coming in every single one of these scans. Every single one.
This shitty pairing in a nutshell. Sasuke never desired her. And it's glaringly obvious in the manga and beyond. It's still as one-sided as it always has been. Shouju bullshit.
I look at this from another angle: this pairing is unimaginably terrible for Sasuke. Why? Because, it's always about Sakura to such an extent that it's sickening and revolting. Where is Sasuke in the equation? Why do Sasuke's desires and wants do not matter? Why should he return her love? People call this abusive and I don't get it. Sasuke is under no moral obligation to like her or treat her nicely when she always tries to cling to him like a freaking leech. You tell a person once or twice to back the **** off. If they don't listen, then I can't see any other viable option other than being aggressive. This type of cheap behaviour, the kind Sakura exhibits, would anger and irritate any normal human being.
It gives a message that if a guy doesn't desire you, he's evil. If he rejects you, you should never respect his wishes and keep shoving yourself in his face and win the chance to bed him through disgusting guilt-tripping and revolting persistence, which is called true love by Sakura and SS fanatics; a love where Sasuke's life and perspectives are nowhere to be found. This is nothing but misandry, right there. Honestly, she had it coming in every single one of these scans. Every single one.
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I completely agree with that. NaruHina and SasuSaku both neglects Naruto and Sasuke's feelings and prespectives. It's selfish and to force both characters to love Hinata and Sakura despite that they never did is just terrible.
If only Kishi actually developed the two pairings, I would find peace with them. I have found some peace for NH, but I cannot ignore the fact that it's force tbh. And SasuSaku is just a sexist pairing that tries to make people believe that:
"Oh, it's okay to still cry, spread your legs, and love a guy, despite he tried to kill on you multiple occasions and treated you like trash since you were kids. If he's good looking and hot, it's okay. You can leave your family, treat your friends like crap, and even betray your own country for him despite barely knowing a thing about him."
The SS pairing alone just killed Sakura's character development. I wish I could've been in charge of it, because my Sakura would've never let some guy do the things that Sasuke did to her.
Get your point completely. Hinata stupidly stepped before Naruto and Naruto was still like, "whatsaHinata?" NH is forced as well. I will disagree to an extent about sexism. I get your point completely. But, how many times was it a well-deserved retaliation on Sasuke's part?
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The reason pairings were forced and awful in this series is that alongside with the author not treating the female characters as people (the claim that one can't write female characters is nonsense, period), he was also intent on keeping romantic relationships out of the spotlight. This is something I never understood about the Naruto manga's logic, or rather, Kishimoto's. A manga about bonds is fine with showing friend bonds, brotherly bonds, student-teacher bonds, parent-child bonds, but not romantic bonds? Why? They're just as valid, and its Kishimoto's hesitance to pay them any attention as to why they turned out so awful in comparison to most other well-done bonds in the series like ShikaInoCho or Itachi and Sasuke or Lee and Gai. Granted, this is the same man who's primarily focused bond of Naruto and Sasuke is arguably worse than SS and NH at times, so I can't really blame him for the incompetence.