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1. If orochimaru always knew about the secret uzumaki shrine, instead of going out of his way to get tsunade to heal him, or waiting on bodies to switch with, and being sick for years, why didn't he use the uzumaki mask of unsealing, steal it and revive his arms in the first place? He could have easily used one of his many followers as a sacrifice, and he could have easily infiltrated the village.

2. Why did Itachi and Madara not need sharingan to activate susanoo, if susanoo is a sharingan tech?

3. speaking of sharingan, why didnt Kakashi or Obito ever go blind from using kamui so much, sasuke used amaterasu in one day and his vision was already going blind. They didnt have ems. Okay okay, so maybe because obito had senju dna, he didnt need ems, but what about kakashi, he should have been gone blind, especially during the war.

4. Why didnt Minato use sage mode to fight obito when he first attacked the village? It was obvious a perfect sage mode since he didnt need any frogs to support him to gather the energy, also, Naruto was able to use sage mode in battle for the first time and nearly defeat pain, yet minato claims he never used it bcuz he sucked? tf? even jiraya used a incomplete mode to fight pain. No excuses.

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1. If orochimaru always knew about the secret uzumaki shrine, instead of going out of his way to get tsunade to heal him, or waiting on bodies to switch with, and being sick for years, why didn't he use the uzumaki mask of unsealing, steal it and revive his arms in the first place? He could have easily used one of his many followers as a sacrifice, and he could have easily infiltrated the village.

2. Why did Itachi and Madara not need sharingan to activate susanoo, if susanoo is a sharingan tech?

3. speaking of sharingan, why didnt Kakashi or Obito ever go blind from using kamui so much, sasuke used amaterasu in one day and his vision was already going blind. They didnt have ems. Okay okay, so maybe because obito had senju dna, he didnt need ems, but what about kakashi, he should have been gone blind, especially during the war.

4. Why didnt Minato use sage mode to fight obito when he first attacked the village? It was obvious a perfect sage mode since he didnt need any frogs to support him to gather the energy, also, Naruto was able to use sage mode in battle for the first time and nearly defeat pain, yet minato claims he never used it bcuz he sucked? tf? even jiraya used a incomplete mode to fight pain. No excuses.

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1) Because he didn't have a strong enough body. To use the mask, a condition of having your stomach cut open is necessary... he could do it then because he knew there'd be a spare Zetsu body going. He didn't want to be stuck with any old body for 4 more years, he wanted a strong one.

2) Because it's a power which isn't manifested by eyesight like Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. It's sourced from the Sharingan gene itself.

3) Kakashi did note he was going blind when they were facing Madara. Kakashi was using it sparingly up until the last part of the war, where he spammed it until blindness.

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4) Because Minato's no good with Senjutsu. He needs to stand around for ages to prep, the senjutsu resulting isn't much boosted and he can only hold the chakra for a few seconds at most. The tiny benefit is completely overshadowed by the drawbacks... Jiraiya was using fully-fledged SM, albeit with the chakra not balanced quite properly, as opposed to Minato who can balance his chakra properly but not maintain it, therefore not allowing for Sage Mode.
 
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1. He didn't want to use a Fodder body.
2. Once you awaken MS in both eyes, you no longer require your eyes to summon the chakra avatar that is Susan'no
3. Kakashi was going blind vs Juubidara. Obito had Hashirama cells
4. Because without Pa and Ma, he'd have a time limit just like Naruto did vs Pain. Besides SM is about Power, Minato is about the Finesse.. just not his style
 

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1) Because he didn't have a strong enough body. To use the mask, a condition of having your stomach cut open is necessary... he could do it then because he knew there'd be a spare Zetsu body going. He didn't want to be stuck with any old body for 4 more years, he wanted a strong one.

2) Because it's a power which isn't manifested by eyesight like Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. It's sourced from the Sharingan gene itself.

3) Kakashi did note he was going blind when they were facing Madara. Kakashi was using it sparingly up until the last part of the war, where he spammed it until blindness.

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4) Because Minato's no good with Senjutsu. He needs to stand around for ages to prep, the senjutsu resulting isn't much boosted and he can only hold the chakra for a few seconds at most. The tiny benefit is completely overshadowed by the drawbacks... Jiraiya was using fully-fledged SM, albeit with the chakra not balanced quite properly, as opposed to Minato who can balance his chakra properly but not maintain it, therefore not allowing for Sage Mode.

1. He didn't want to use a Fodder body.
2. Once you awaken MS in both eyes, you no longer require your eyes to summon the chakra avatar that is Susan'no
3. Kakashi was going blind vs Juubidara. Obito had Hashirama cells
4. Because without Pa and Ma, he'd have a time limit just like Naruto did vs Pain. Besides SM is about Power, Minato is about the Finesse.. just not his style

All seemingly logical reasons, but I don't think Kishi put this much thought into most of these.

1. Honestly there isn't a good explanation for this. If getting his arms back permanently meant he'd have to endure 3 years with a subpar host, it should have been a no-brainer and at the top of his priority considering what he tried instead. Chances are, Kishi (or more likely his editors) came up with this idea late into the manga.

2. Itachi could not use Susanoo without Sharingan like people say he did. His eyes still worked just before his death, Kishi simply wanted to emphasize he was going blind. His eyes still worked until the very end, he was not totally blind. Madara... is just another animal altogether. Perhaps it is a manifestation of chakra and doesn't require sharingan once unlocked.... but Itachi certainly did not do that, only Madara did.

3. Others answered it.

4. Simple reason... Minato never had SM until Kishi (or his editors) gave it to him in the war, just like Hashirama. Chances are, editors advised Kishi to buff these characters for 2 reasons. First, they needed to compete with war Madara, who was not only an edo for most of the time, but even stronger once fully revived. Second, Hashi needed to live up to his historical levels of power. Without SM, Hashirama doesn't really live up to his historical hype. With SM, his legacy and superiority to a prime Madara actually makes sense.

For the most part.... the answer to your questions is that Kishi made retcons to either fit the evolving plot or put characters on the level of power they were always given credit for.
 

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1) Because he didn't have a strong enough body. To use the mask, a condition of having your stomach cut open is necessary... he could do it then because he knew there'd be a spare Zetsu body going. He didn't want to be stuck with any old body for 4 more years, he wanted a strong one.

2) Because it's a power which isn't manifested by eyesight like Amaterasu or Tsukuyomi. It's sourced from the Sharingan gene itself.

3) Kakashi did note he was going blind when they were facing Madara. Kakashi was using it sparingly up until the last part of the war, where he spammed it until blindness.

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4) Because Minato's no good with Senjutsu. He needs to stand around for ages to prep, the senjutsu resulting isn't much boosted and he can only hold the chakra for a few seconds at most. The tiny benefit is completely overshadowed by the drawbacks... Jiraiya was using fully-fledged SM, albeit with the chakra not balanced quite properly, as opposed to Minato who can balance his chakra properly but not maintain it, therefore not allowing for Sage Mode.
1/ It's more probably because he needs a sharingan to open the Uchiha secret dojo in the middle of Konoha.
 

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He still seems strong enough to beat Madara without Sage Mode. I think Sage mode fits his style very well either way.
Not against a fully powered, Susanoo-covered Kyuubi avatar form of EMS Madara.... that required SM + massive wood style to beat. I'm not saying it doesn't fit him, but it was most certainly added for the war, likely recommended by an editor of Kishi's.

4th one was retcon for plot convenience
Agreed.

1/ It's more probably because he needs a sharingan to open the Uchiha secret dojo in the middle of Konoha.
That is true, and the fact he sought out the Sharingan so bad was likely for this reason. Good catch here. Either way, even if Kishi did cover the holes on this problem, its still very likely that this idea was added during the war and was not planned by Kishi early on.
 

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That is true, and the fact he sought out the Sharingan so bad was likely for this reason. Good catch here. Either way, even if Kishi did cover the holes on this problem, its still very likely that this idea was added during the war and was not planned by Kishi early on.
It is possible that Kishimoto planned this from the point he lost his arms.
Why do you find it very likely that he didn't planned this?
 
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