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and "i laugh at those who" know nothing about superman and try to troll yet fail.

And I laugh at those who know nothing about Supes, there isn't just one.

The strongest form of Supes is omnipotent, he blinks and Goku never existed.

But this doesn't even require 1M, Pre-Crisis is intangible, immune to all attacks and sneezed away a galaxy with no effort, whereas the strongest DBZ characters would have to use every bit of their might to destroy planets.

What a twonk, "the superman verse". Superman is set in the normal world.
 
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And I laugh at those who know nothing about Supes, there isn't just one.

The strongest form of Supes is omnipotent, he blinks and Goku never existed.

But this doesn't even require 1M, Pre-Crisis is intangible, immune to all attacks and sneezed away a galaxy with no effort, whereas the strongest DBZ characters would have to use every bit of their might to destroy planets.

tell me how frieza destroyed planet vegeta! did he need all his might or it was just a finger!
 

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I've been arguing with someone on youtube about this yesterday.
Goku is extremely powerful yes, but the creators of Superman have stated that he is as powerful as he needs to be, meaning, if he ever faces someone powerful, he can push himself even farther than them, no matter what.
Goku has no knowledge of Kryptonite and it's effect on Superman, so he could not use it to his advantage, and even if he did know, Goku likes to fight on even ground, he would not use it.
He also has no knowledge of Superman getting his power from the sun, so he would not destroy it. Even if he somehow worked that out, it would be unlikely that he would go as far as to destroy the sun, which would destroy Earth.
So this leaves him with the only option of instant transmissioning Superman to a sunless planet, which rules out anywhere in the solar system. It also means that he would need someone with a significant ki level to lock on to, and he would also have to know that the planet has both, no sun, and oxygen for him to breathe.
 
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Did you forget about the Zenki

You mean "Zenkai"? No i haven't forgotten about it, because it's irrelevant. Zenkai applies when after a saiyan had been in a near death fight which helps him increase his power.

Now i want you to consider this:

We are talking about superman and goku in their prime, that's goku from ss1-ss4 and not when he is a baby's form cause his body then couldn't handle the strain ss3 and ss4 put on him. so this is before that baby form.
This is superman from after he had learned 2 of Kryptons fighting styles and all his mental blocks had been released, other than that if we take superman of the future goku would be fighting a god! so we are considering them in their prime!
 

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tell me how frieza destroyed planet vegeta! did he need all his might or it was just a finger!
read about this S**t of yours! below
Superman Prime

He watched as his parents, friends, and even his wife Lois died without the ability to save them from natural causes. Continuing his service as the world's foremost champion, Superman began to slow as the sadness of the losses grew. Legend then tells how close to the end of the twenty first century, Superman Prime (as history will remember as Kal-El) passed the responsibilities of being Superman to his heir, Superman Secundus, and created the Superman Dynasty. Then, one day, he left Earth.
 
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He can't be killed in the superman verse but introduce a saiyan it's a different story!

The bdz univers also has the sun, it's worse there cause the sun is always up! Piccallo destroyed the moon remember? and although Vegeta created a moon to transform, it disapeared because vegeta was defeated, this was in the manga not in the anime for some reason.
 

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You mean "Zenkai"? No i haven't forgotten about it, because it's irrelevant. Zenkai applies when after a saiyan had been in a near death fight which helps him increase his power.

Now i want you to consider this:

We are talking about superman and goku in their prime, that's goku from ss1-ss4 and not when he is a baby's form cause his body then couldn't handle the strain ss3 and ss4 put on him. so this is before that baby form.
This is superman from after he had learned 2 of Kryptons fighting styles and all his mental blocks had been released, other than that if we take superman of the future goku would be fighting a god! so we are considering them in their prime!

I know about Superman one million even doesn't stand a chance!
 

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The bdz univers also has the sun, it's worse there cause the sun is always up! Piccallo destroyed the moon remember? and although Vegeta created a moon to transform, it disapeared because vegeta was defeated, this was in the manga not in the anime for some reason.

I know about that! but that was when they were weaklings!
 
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I've been arguing with someone on youtube about this yesterday.
Goku is extremely powerful yes, but the creators of Superman have stated that he is as powerful as he needs to be, meaning, if he ever faces someone powerful, he can push himself even farther than them, no matter what.
Goku has no knowledge of Kryptonite and it's effect on Superman, so he could not use it to his advantage, and even if he did know, Goku likes to fight on even ground, he would not use it.
He also has no knowledge of Superman getting his power from the sun, so he would not destroy it. Even if he somehow worked that out, it would be unlikely that he would go as far as to destroy the sun, which would destroy Earth.
So this leaves him with the only option of instant transmissioning Superman to a sunless planet, which rules out anywhere in the solar system. It also means that he would need someone with a significant ki level to lock on to, and he would also have to know that the planet has both, no sun, and oxygen for him to breathe.

Say it again, please say that again. let all these none believers read it!!
 

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Instant transmission although explanation changed many times is = sometimes greater than light!, he tossed the heaviest metal in the universe Kachini, his punches solos galaxy! He can create force field >>>>>>> super man strength

Incorrect. Instant transmission is not a constant nor is it FTL in most scenarios. In an actual fight it will never be FTL as the distance could be achieved at quicker speeds in FTL (do the math before spouting nonsense). Superman traveled from Pluto to Earth quicker than teleporters [ ]. Now imaging a CQC where teleportation is much less effective and efficient than FTL movement.
Spirit bomb wouldn't even hurt Superman, he stopped a mageddon warhead, which could destroy a galaxy .[ ].
Tanking a million nuclear blasts [ ]. Spirit bomb will be a tickle. Goku's speed will be a joke. Goku's strength is what Superman uses to squash ants.
 

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m.youtube.com/watch?v=oyl97TG8jbA
 

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And I laugh at those who know nothing about Supes, there isn't just one.

The strongest form of Supes is omnipotent, he blinks and Goku never existed.

But this doesn't even require 1M, Pre-Crisis is intangible, immune to all attacks and sneezed away a galaxy with no effort, whereas the strongest DBZ characters would have to use every bit of their might to destroy planets.

What a twonk, "the superman verse". Superman is set in the normal world.

No form of superman is omnipotent. 1 Million is nigh omnipotent and nigh omniscient.
 

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now I like goku and hes 1 of my faves and i think he could win against some of superman's forms, any like pre-crisis or god forbid superman prime 1 million he gets destroyed.
 

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tell me how frieza destroyed planet vegeta! did he need all his might or it was just a finger!

Look at this dummy, comparing a single planet to an entire galaxy.

And even then, Frieza had to use effort. You do know that Superman is limitless too?

Even All-Star Superman could lift 200,000,000,000,000,000,000,000 tons (200 Quintillion tons) and still wasn't even approaching his limit.

No form of superman is omnipotent. 1 Million is nigh omnipotent and nigh omniscient.

No form of superman is omnipotent. 1 Million is nigh omnipotent and nigh omniscient.

Prime 1M is all of the previous Supes bunched into one + a few thousand years more powers and experience. Notably, he's immortal, can manipulate reality freely, has unlimited power and has all manner of insights.
 
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Yeah if it's dcau Superman. Comic book Superman escapes double black holes, shatters dimensions, fights faster than light, and Superboy Prime tanked universe destroying attack. And he has fought gods like Anti Monitor. Quit being butthurt and accept the fact. Try looking into some of Superman's feats instead f selectively hearing some and just relying on cartoons, and you'll see a huge diffirence.
 
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