I liked the manga so much better when we

[ClarifyingThings]

Didn't have all this, Hagaromo,Hamura,Indra,ashura, black zetsu,kaguya, "Reincarnation's", Ten tails, "New worlds" and All these symbolism's about "Hard workers always beating the Talented, and all these parallels and etc, i just feel like its messing up the story Imo, i liked it better in the beginning, where it was just about Masked man tobi and Madara, i think that's where the story should have wrapped up, it just seem's like kishi is just changing things each chapter

Especially with Kaguya and Hamura, like it just seem's like he's taking the story too far, it feels like i'm reading a whole different manga now, then in the beginning of the war

 

[Solog0d]

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( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°) thanks for sharing your opinion and thoughts. Very very nice thread

 

[SageOfTheTenPaths]

Coundnt agree more, the manga is a farce now, a daytime sope opera.

 

[take it easy]

i love current story more.

 

[Seventh Sama]

Even if kishi turned naruto into space ninjas who can blow up planets, you'd still read it ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)

 

[Tobi98]

Oh cry me a river

That's called making a good story

 

[Fair Warning]

i agree, the series was much better when there was suspense, mystery, and tactics

now its like "god vs gods, ultimate shinobi that can be easily sealed, plot, plot holes, TNJ, PNJ"

 

[chopstickchakra]

Didn't have all this, Hagaromo,Hamura,Indra,ashura, black zetsu,kaguya, "Reincarnation's", Ten tails, "New worlds" and All these symbolism's about "Hard workers always beating the Talented, and all these parallels and etc, i just feel like its messing up the story Imo, i liked it better in the beginning, where it was just about Masked man tobi and Madara, i think that's where the story should have wrapped up, it just seem's like kishi is just changing things each chapter

Especially with Kaguya and Hamura, like it just seem's like he's taking the story too far, it feels like i'm reading a whole different manga now, then in the beginning of the war

"All these symbolism's about "Hard workers always beating the Talented," This was in the manga from chapter 1, it has been proven to be false though because Naruto the poster child for working hard turns out to be related to everyone important and strong in this manga.

" i liked it better in the beginning, where it was just about Masked man tobi and Madara" That wasn't even close to the beginning.

I do agree though Naruto has skipped it's logical conclusion point and now is just trekking into the unkown. Who knows where it's gonna go from here.

 

[uchihamad]

Yea I like the Old Naruto and I miss it so much :NO:

 

[Shaain]

Kishi wants $$$ in his pocket that's Y he's taking naruto tooooo far ........
It'll be better if he end naruto and start another manga that's a way to earn $$$ if he want $$$ that badly...

 

[ClarifyingThings]

"All these symbolism's about "Hard workers always beating the Talented," This was in the manga from chapter 1, it has been proven to be false though because Naruto the poster child for working hard turns out to be related to everyone important and strong in this manga.

" i liked it better in the beginning, where it was just about Masked man tobi and Madara" That wasn't even close to the beginning.

I do agree though Naruto has skipped it's logical conclusion point and now is just trekking into the unkown. Who knows where it's gonna go from here.

that was not in the beginning of the manga, He's making it to obvious now, he's basically contradicting himself, by always putting the Hard worker above the Talented, that's basically trying to say that, You can't change your destiny, wich was suspose to be the opposite, Also yes The masked man was there all along and he was planning to revive madara, all along

 

[SasukeSaviourofUchiha]

Get over it and as always, "read the manga.". :]

 

[hixa kuogame]

i agree, the series was much better when there was suspense, mystery, and tactics

now its like "god vs gods, ultimate shinobi that can be easily sealed, plot, plot holes, TNJ, PNJ"

You can't name three legit plot holes..
You haven't been reading Naruto if you haven't seen the recent mystery and tactics being used.
Stop speaking from your butthole.

 

[ClarifyingThings]

You can't name three legit plot holes..
You haven't been reading Naruto if you haven't seen the recent mystery and tactics being used.stop speaking from your butthole.

I can name three!

Madara going inside the Kamui world, while being the TenTen tails jinchuuriki - PLOTHOLE

Obito still being alive, even though it clearly states that after black zetsu gets off of him, he dies - PLOTHOLE

Hamura -PLOTHOLE

 

[Umari Senju]

Oh cry me a river

That's called making a good story

How bout you shut the hell up! This is NOT good storytelling anymore. It was good for quite some time. Really even up to Madara reviving. But the OP is right this Rikudo trainwreck of a family should have stopped at Madara.

It's cool that you and so many others are enjoying this rollercoaster of plot twists and story changes. But myself, and many others are finding it to be a headache.

I believe Kishi has to keep pushing these chapters out until the deadline for the last chapter is met, so he is Como v up with whatever he can to prolong series. And I realize it's very difficult to continue to deliver top notch storytelling to million of reader for over a decade....

...but this farce of an arc is not great storytelling. Sorry it's just how many of us feel. Leave it at that

 

[saw2097]

I can name three!

Madara going inside the Kamui world, while being the TenTen tails jinchuuriki - PLOTHOLE

Actually Obito couldn't faze into the Kamui world while being the TenTails Jin, it was never said he couldn't fully go there.

Obito still being alive, even though it clearly states that after black zetsu gets off of him, he dies - PLOTHOLE

He essentially is dead on the ground after BZ left him, and he didn't last long after he detached.

Hamura -PLOTHOLE

That's something that was only recently introduced so its not a plot hole, Kishi simply hasn't explained it yet.

The manga has issues, but those aren't it.

Honestly I am enjoying Kaguya and her sons story, it fleshes a lot of the manga out, and really expands the Narutoverse.

 

[Chibi Light]

Didn't have all this, Hagaromo,Hamura,Indra,ashura, black zetsu,kaguya, "Reincarnation's", Ten tails, "New worlds" and All these symbolism's about "Hard workers always beating the Talented, and all these parallels and etc, i just feel like its messing up the story Imo, i liked it better in the beginning, where it was just about Masked man tobi and Madara, i think that's where the story should have wrapped up, it just seem's like kishi is just changing things each chapter

Especially with Kaguya and Hamura, like it just seem's like he's taking the story too far, it feels like i'm reading a whole different manga now, then in the beginning of the war

Its ironic how you dislike how Kishi is clarifying things and your username is "ClarfyingThings".

 

[Europa]

Part 1 through Pain Arc >>> now

 

[chopstickchakra]

that was not in the beginning of the manga, He's making it to obvious now, he's basically contradicting himself, by always putting the Hard worker above the Talented, that's basically trying to say that, You can't change your destiny, wich was suspose to be the opposite, Also yes The masked man was there all along and he was planning to revive madara, all along

Yes from chapter 1 the theme of Naruto was hard work, dedication and perseverance would surpass natural talent. That is almost exactly what was said in the Neji fight. Did you start reading Naruto at Shippuden? You think Obito was in at the beginning and you think that the idea of hard work over natural talent is new, I'm fairly certain you did start reading at Shippuden. Despite when you started, he's not putting the hard worker over the talented. The hard worker is Lee, Naruto hasn't been a hard worker since we learned the truth of the Uzumaki and him being the 4th's son and a relative of the senju and an incarnation of the sage and etc etc. Naruto is the furthest from a hard working character now.

As for the masked man, he was not in the manga the whole time. His plans may have occurred simultaneously with events in the beginning but Obito was not involved in the beginning at all, he was put in later.

 

[Bad Touch Yakushi]

Oh cry me a river

That's called making a good story

not knowing when to end a good story is called making a good story?

whaaa?


but yeah the amount of backlash he's getting from today in the base alone shows how unpopular all of this has become. Personally I was anti-Sage ever since the second he was introduced back in the Kage Summit arc so this is basically my worst nightmare rn.