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So that sharingan Madara had was a MS? Not sure about it, plus he had only one of it. Anyway, Madara being behind the death of Rin, is a nice theory and I want it to become the truth. I think Obito will find out that Madara is the one behind Rin's death and will fight against him (Madara), because there is no way Naruto, Kakashi, Guy & Konoha 11 can beat Obito and Madara...unless Kishi uses plot no jutsu.
 

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oh yeah what about ino's technique does that not make any sense? cause it could be something similar to that

Not just ino ...orochikaru successfully split his consciousness between multiple people.. It is possible..nice thread!
 

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Never thought of this, +rep
 

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this guy jst repeated what I have been saying in other threads.... anyway its all good, nice but already realised theory that Madara has a hand in it, but I dont knw about the part u said he is the one actually manipulating Mizukage; that might be a very good point, well done!
 
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Good theory. What I don't understand is, if Madara could control the mizukage, then why wouldn't he just control Obito, instead of going through all the trouble to manipulate him like this. Still, you're probably onto something.

whats sence does that make ??... madara would control obito to do fucced up shit ok cool... now when he dies the genjutsu would wear off and obito would be the same kind hearted uchiha that he is... meaning NO tobi and NO moon eye plan
 

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nope madara is a ''nice person'' he won't do something like that, obito isn't really important to his plans he already had the necessary preparations
 

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my thoughts as well, nice job:D
 

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solid theory rep++
 

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So Madara is apparently sleeping?


I think that Madara's actually controlling the mizukage as his body lays there out of consciousness, because his mind is busy manipulating the mizukage and he could be using of the zetsu bodies... So therefore madara is the one who ordered the mist ninja to attack and surround Kakashi and Rin!! Madara knows how much Obito loves Rin so he orders the mist ninja to kill Rin, and even better Zetsu jumps in outta no where and is gonna get Obito to witness it first hand!

Then after Obito witnesses Rin's death, his only option is the moon eyes plan ... because he needs to be with Rin


and go figure that zetsu hinted at it saying "even revive the dead"

So overall Madara and Zetsu are playing Obito... Madara is behind the Mist Ninja attacking Rin, and Zetsu fools Obito into witnessing it first hand to later awaken his ms! After Rin's death, Obito will be all for the moon eye plan to get a chance to see her again. Madara is the master manipulator!

holy shit are you writing the manga cause i think u just read kishi mind. best theory i read in a while good job
 

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Nice theory bro!
 
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this is the best theory present totally agree
 

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Sorry I don't believe that madara is capable of a genjutsu that can operate miles away he might of been able with his old eyes but now with only one fodder ninjas eye I don't think he can,and remember the mizukage you're talking about is about obitos age and woudnt be mizukage by then.
 

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so he removed his mind without removing his brain.......that makes no sense

What about Inoichi's mind transfer jutsu? Different process, same principle. This is Madara we're talking about, I don't think it's outside the realm of possibility.
 

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I like this theory. My thought however is how do the Zetsus know what Rin and Stupid Kakashi look like? This whole thing reeks of setup.
 
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Probably true or may not be true at all who knows its all up to kishi good idea tho +rep
 

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So Madara is apparently sleeping?


I think that Madara's actually controlling the mizukage as his body lays there out of consciousness, because his mind is busy manipulating the mizukage and he could be using of the zetsu bodies... So therefore madara is the one who ordered the mist ninja to attack and surround Kakashi and Rin!! Madara knows how much Obito loves Rin so he orders the mist ninja to kill Rin, and even better Zetsu jumps in outta no where and is gonna get Obito to witness it first hand!

Then after Obito witnesses Rin's death, his only option is the moon eyes plan ... because he needs to be with Rin


and go figure that zetsu hinted at it saying "even revive the dead"

So overall Madara and Zetsu are playing Obito... Madara is behind the Mist Ninja attacking Rin, and Zetsu fools Obito into witnessing it first hand to later awaken his ms! After Rin's death, Obito will be all for the moon eye plan to get a chance to see her again. Madara is the master manipulator!

Nice theory, it all does seem like a ploy to get Obito to cooperate and do Madara's bidding. I mean how does Zetsu even know what Rin and Kakashi look like? Can he somehow obtain information from Obito's mind because a part of himself is attached to Obito? Or did Obito being in there for so long explain to Zetsu who they were and what they looked like.

Either way it's all a little fishy if you ask me. Again nice theory +rep.
 

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I don't buy it. Don't think Madara can control people like that. Obito controlled Yagura via Sharingan and I don't think Madara had anything to do with it. The events we're about to see regarding the mist ninja will lead further into this.
And neither do I believe Madara / Zetsu are controlling the events outside or using Rin so that Obito might awaken MS. It makes sense to me that Obito has to experience what Madara has been going on about without Madara actually forcing it on him.
Forcing it on him, as we've already seen, does the opposite effect. I think this with Rin and Kakashi going on is as simple as a plot mechanic to explain Obito's road to embrace Madara's plan on his own.
I believe Zetsu alerts Obito about Rin being in danger simply because he's becoming friends with Obito. I never got the impression there was anything fishy with Zetsu in relation to Obito, like manipulating him for Madara or something like that.
 

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So after all of this can people finally understand that tobi is obito and can we stop calling him tobito
 

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wow, it's funny how i posted the same information as you (with some differences which make the prediction more reasonable) but got totally ignored

- it was actually right after the manga came out. Well i guess that i'm just unlucky :(
 

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Its a nice theory but I highly doubt its true. If Kisame truly did meet the real Madara as a clone or w/e then why was it that when Tobi showed his face to Kisame he seen that it was the same person who controlled the Mizukage? I don't even think Tobi said his name to Kisame before taking off his mask. Kisame automatically knew who he was.
 
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