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Uhm Edo bodies must have DNA of the person you are summoning so the body was covered in Madaras DNA I'm pretty sure the soul linked with the DNA already in the vessel . And it could have been madaras actual body because kabuto found Obitos hideout so maybe he kept madaras corpse there because the plan was to revive Madara so without Edo so that had to have the body
 

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Kabuto used real body of Madara inside the coffin and he show it to Obito.
This method was used before, when Orochimaru attacked Konoha and summon 2 coffins Hashimara & Tobirama.
When Itachi make Kabuto to release edo tensei, Madara then knew how he was summon.
So Madara used release edo tensei jutsu to make himself immortal.
Read the manga, it was stated.
 

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There's no need to understand. Even Edos got the clothes which they had wore when they were dying. I thought only souls return from the afterlife. Lol

OT : Edo Madara had his body. Rinne Tensei only removed the Edo part out of him. Meaning every element which was used for Edo Tensei that includes the person's body which was used as Madara's vessel as well.
 

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Uhm Edo bodies must have DNA of the person you are summoning so the body was covered in Madaras DNA I'm pretty sure the soul linked with the DNA already in the vessel . And it could have been madaras actual body because kabuto found Obitos hideout so maybe he kept madaras corpse there because the plan was to revive Madara so without Edo so that had to have the body
We don't know the actually limits of Rinne so it is very possible you're right and it was just a piece of DNA

For all we know that was his real body.
it's not impossible nor farfetched really. As we've seen, Kabuto is capable of much.
I thought this as well, when Madara first appeared I believed that it was actually Madara in the coffin and not just a Edo and considering Obito's shock at seeing it this is very possible... though I thought the sacrifice had to be living and the act of using Edo killed them.
 

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Kabuto used real body of Madara inside the coffin and he show it to Obito.
This method was used before, when Orochimaru attacked Konoha and summon 2 coffins Hashimara & Tobirama.
When Itachi make Kabuto to release edo tensei, Madara then knew how he was summon.
So Madara used release edo tensei jutsu to make himself immortal.
Read the manga, it was stated.
This explains only how he was able to remain around after he was summoned with Edo, not how he was able to come back to full (and mortal) life.
 

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haha, so many ppl in this thread have obsvly read wrong manga xd i just cant help my self *laughing* and now bai.. -> feel free to fix my grammar nerd nazis.
I thought maybe I had missed something at first and this was explained but you literally said nothing other than "haha your dumb" so either elaborate or go f*ck yourself :)
 

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Edo Tensei uses a living corpse for the soul of the dead to inhabit. Rinne Tensei allows the dead to live again. (but are souls and spirits the same thing?) idk but w.e. This is the first time Edo Tensei summon was hit by a Rinne Tensei. Its weird and hasn't been explained . The soul inhabits the edo tensei body so that means the sacrifice becomes the body of the soul. So the soul has now the body of the sacrificed corpse.

ot: I wondered if when Obito used Rinne Tensei on Edo Madara, Madara's soul would return to his body in the cave. Based on something Kabuto said, Obito thought Orochimaru had already been gathering info about Zetsu(or hashi's senju dna). Hashirama's cells are living (even after he dies I think, how else could Danzo use them?)

Kabuto already knew about Zetsu when he met Obito , so He & Oro probably already got Madara's corpse from his underground cave, and used Zetsu/Hashirama's dna/cells to give Madara's corpse "life" or "living cells" and "fused" them into each other, so in a way his body was living just without a conscience.(conscious ?)

So Madara's corpse was used as his sacrifice for his soul to re-inhabit for the Edo Tensei summoning.
but wasn't really explained..(maybe kishi didn't think of an explanation.)
This is what was bugging me about it.... When Rinne was used on Edo Madare, why was it Madara came back to life and not the body he was inhabiting.
 

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If ppl r still trying to figure this out then they cant read or are limited when they read.
Read the whole thread--
Kabuto brought back Madara in his prime
Madara then used Gedo Art of Rinne Rebirth via Obito to revive himself and not the sacrifice
 

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Stand before your superiors

O.t.: Gedo Art of Rinne Rebirth was used to revive him, lucky his soul was in that vessel (he also was able to cling on to that body after the Impure Resurrection was released), so he probably did the same when he was revive or he was just revive in that state as he was close to Obito
Edo Tensei just covers the sacrifice in the ashes and transforms them into the person being Revived. Logically, theres some poor shmuck who annoyed Kabuto inside Madara. It should have brought that guy back to life rather than Madara, because when Edo Tensei is removed the ashed crumble off and you can clearly see the sacrifices body.
Edo Tensei uses a living corpse for the soul of the dead to inhabit. Rinne Tensei allows the dead to live again. (but are souls and spirits the same thing?) idk but w.e. This is the first time Edo Tensei summon was hit by a Rinne Tensei. Its weird and hasn't been explained . The soul inhabits the edo tensei body so that means the sacrifice becomes the body of the soul. So the soul has now the body of the sacrificed corpse.

ot: I wondered if when Obito used Rinne Tensei on Edo Madara, Madara's soul would return to his body in the cave. Based on something Kabuto said, Obito thought Orochimaru had already been gathering info about Zetsu(or hashi's senju dna). Hashirama's cells are living (even after he dies I think, how else could Danzo use them?)

Kabuto already knew about Zetsu when he met Obito , so He & Oro probably already got Madara's corpse from his underground cave, and used Zetsu/Hashirama's dna/cells to give Madara's corpse "life" or "living cells" and "fused" them into each other, so in a way his body was living just without a conscience.(conscious ?)

So Madara's corpse was used as his sacrifice for his soul to re-inhabit for the Edo Tensei summoning.
but wasn't really explained..(maybe kishi didn't think of an explanation.)
^^ These are you answers OP.

We know that Rinne Tensei is used to reivive dead people, well then in the most cases it would work by bringing souls of dead people from pure world back to impure world. The souls somehow know location of their bodies so they get send into bodies this revive dead ones. Interesting case is how the souls know about location of their bodies... some claimed that it requires intact body, however I believe piece of DNA is just sufficent. Why do I think so ?

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^^ Both Fukusaku and Kakashi were badly messed up before Rinne tesnsei was used on them it hints that Rinne Tensei also includes complete regeneration of body by inputing more life force in them + possible recharge of the chakra amount to full as Kakashi didn't need to rest.

It is also possible that Rinne tensei can rebuild physcial corpse from just piece of DNA, well it may be assumption but Outer path of Pein already proved to be able to use summoned Demon to swallow Pein bodies and rebuild them...

In Madara's case it was completly different as Madara's sould was already in impure world... besides it was trapped in sacrificed body. Logically Rinne Tensei should rip Madara's soul out of the ET body and send it into Madara's physcial corpse which could rebuiled from pieces of DNA. However Kabuto incuded Madara's DNA and Hashirama's DNA and somehow merged them into fake body... so probably Rinne tensei used Madara's DNA in fake body as shortcut and just brought it back to life instead of sending it back to Original body.
 
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Madara was an Edo Tensei, this part as I understand it means that it is simply his soul trapped within the body of of a vessel. So it is not his body it is an unknown sinobi who may or may not have any connection to madara (99.9999% sure he isn't lol). This brings me to my question, How in the 7 hells is madara alive right now? I get that Rinne Tensei no Jutsu brought him back but from just his soul? When Nagato used it to restore the village it made it seem as though he was returning their souls to their bodies.... It's probably just PNJ but it's starting to bug me.
It made his edo tensei body, which was the vessel's remolded body real.
 
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He's alive because that's what the jutsu does...not really much more to it than that. You can always speculate why/how the jutsu does what it does but that's all you are doing.
 
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