i cant take naruto serious anymore.

[Bling Kai]

Reincarnation is a belief, Hell the 6 paths of Pain are a direct nod to the Buddhist 6 paths of Reincarnation.

Like i said in my post that you ignored lol, Jiraiya told Nagato he BELIEVES he is the REINCARNATION of the So6P.

The series is not supposed to be about ninjas, thats why you fail as a fan. The story is about Naruto. The Ninja arts are just fancy terms but Kishi originally wanted it to be Magic based. But Ninjas are cooler and its a unique twist.

Would you read 600+ chapters of people throwing knives at each other and who hide in the shadows?? No you read to see the story of a Young boy named Naruto, and his friends/enemies.

The story of the young boy Naruto is so cliche and has been done before. I personally dont read it for that. The story of Naruto as a character is basically he is like jesus. He is the one who will put an end to all the evil in the world. And I have seen this story line in like EVRYTHING.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Reincarnation is a belief, Hell the 6 paths of Pain are a direct nod to the Buddhist 6 paths of Reincarnation.

Like i said in my post that you ignored lol, Jiraiya told Nagato he BELIEVES he is the REINCARNATION of the So6P.

The series is not supposed to be about ninjas, thats why you fail as a fan. The story is about Naruto. The Ninja arts are just fancy terms but Kishi originally wanted it to be Magic based. But Ninjas are cooler and its a unique twist.

Would you read 600+ chapters of people throwing knives at each other and who hide in the shadows?? No you read to see the story of a Young boy named Naruto, and his friends/enemies.

this story is about ninjas since part one deny it if you want... And this story isnt even about naruto anymore just an old hag and her family feud.

 

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So nobody wants a coherent story that Kishi was/is capable of producing?Because that's what I want.

 

[saw2097]

yeah i agree that Madara couldve been a better final villain to the manga but really ever since naruto shippuden started its like a different feel to the anime, Naruto part one is better than naruto shippuden at alot of points, kaguya and naruto and sasuke new power up just gave the manga a eve bigger different feel to it. also hagoromo and hamura and ashura and indra all that just made naruto feel different very different.

Madara was a terrible final villain, he was just another Obito, same power and same principle, they were both Uchiha clan members who went psycho because they lost someone and they both wanted to escape reality in a genjutsu and they both got power from the Ten Tails.

The Madara battle was a repeat of the battle against Obito, the introduction of Kaguya spared us from that mess.

this story is about ninjas since part one deny it if you want... And this story isnt even about naruto anymore just an old hag and her family feud.

No its based off of a one shot, about a 9 Tailed Demon boy named Naruto who learns about making friends, if you read the one shot you would know this was never about ninja.

Ninja are simply involved in the story.

 

[MinaButt]

So nobody wants a coherent story that Kishi was/is capable of producing?Because that's what I want.

I just want Kishi to stop doing drugs.....

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

The reincarnation thing was foreshadowed back during Nagato's flashbacks when Jiraya thought he was the Sage's reincarnation.

Obito foreshadowed the two sons.

Madara and Hashirama being connected to Naruto and Sasuke has been foreshadowed since part 1.

the reincarnation was not foreshadowed at all it was simply jiraiya wanking nagato and being completely wrong. Kaguya and hamura were not foreshadowed. Everything we know about the bijuu the entire series became a conveiniant lie. It wasnt foreshadowed narusasu and hashimada were connected it was shown their situation was similar and thats it.

 

[NukaCola]

So nobody wants a coherent story that Kishi was/is capable of producing?Because that's what I want.

Kishimoto doesn't care about what you want.

 

[SkyGodHorus]

To me kishi lost his magic of good story telling... The only reasons im still reading is because ive read for 10 plus years and want to see cool fights(which arent even cool anymore just jutsu competitions). For one kaguya is a sht villain shouldnt have been introduced at all. Sure shes strong but she will pretty much be an awful villain no matter what because 1. She was introduced at the very end of the final arc and thrown right into her final fight. 2. She barely talks at all bz talks more than her and he doesnt have a mouth. 3. Kishi cant a good female character to save his life and she is no exception. I just cant deal... And the whole reincarnation bs i never liked that in any series let naruto be naruto and let sasuke be sasuke we dont want or need shtty parralels. Hah i bet obito is prolly gonna meet hamura since we keep getting info on him and obito is half dead/dead. The whole so and so wasnt the bad guy i was but secretly controlling so and so is over played aswell. And dont even get me started on naruto and sasukes crap forced friendship.

Nice knowing you!

 

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[saw2097]

the reincarnation was not foreshadowed at all it was simply jiraiya wanking nagato and being completely wrong. Kaguya and hamura were not foreshadowed. Everything we know about the bijuu the entire series became a conveiniant lie. It wasnt foreshadowed narusasu and hashimada were connected it was shown their situation was similar and thats it.

Uh huh.

What we knew about the Bijuu wasn't a lie, they were 9 parts of a single being and that hasn't changed at all.

The two sons was mentioned back during the Five Kage Summit arc, and Obito said they reappear during each generation to fight.

At this point you aren't even using a real argument, you are just ranting.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Correction, its called the company lie, you don't spoil the manga or reveal the twists, Kishi was doing something called lying.

Authors do it all the time, as do TV hosts, and movie makers, everyone signs a contract to not reveal details.

Kishi was just avoiding the issue, and at the same time toying with his readers to keep them hooked, I have seen it done before.

no thats not the same thing at all. Kishi left out 90% of the story and changed the series completely at the end of the final arc.

 

[Blubbit]

I read Naruto not only as a fan but critically as a writer. I stopped taking it seriously once BZ said Kaguya a few chapters ago. Now I may seem like a Madara wanker (I'm not), but he really was the better villain for the series. Everything already fit so well, it all made sense, the only input Kaguya and BZ had as villains was saying "nope, it was actually us". You could literally take out Kaguya from the current plot, and it would still make perfect sense and there wouldn't be a need for sudden mass explanation.

And that's only the crap about Kaguya. There are so many different routes Kishi could've taken with the plot. He chose a bad one.

 

[xxxLegacy]

yeah i agree that Madara couldve been a better final villain to the manga but really ever since naruto shippuden started its like a different feel to the anime, Naruto part one is better than naruto shippuden at alot of points, kaguya and naruto and sasuke new power up just gave the manga a eve bigger different feel to it. also hagoromo and hamura and ashura and indra all that just made naruto feel different very different.

Of course it is.
Part 1 :
-Better Stroy
- The fight were full of tactics and strategy. Compare Shikamaru vs. Tamari with this crap today damn what for a big hole there is
-Naruto & Co. needed training to became stronger, now you need just a near death experience
-It was more funny and exciting

And the most important thing is
- A Legend was only a legend


Now:
-Asspull after Asspull
-Power-ups after Power-Ups
-Mastermind after Mastermind
- Ninjas can fly ( for that shit i can watch DBZ)
- Eye transplants every chapter
- Madara was pushing so much and still he didnt fight all out
- Some grandma arrived only after 15 chapters
Etc.etc.etc

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Madara was a terrible final villain, he was just another Obito, same power and same principle, they were both Uchiha clan members who went psycho because they lost someone and they both wanted to escape reality in a genjutsu and they both got power from the Ten Tails.

The Madara battle was a repeat of the battle against Obito, the introduction of Kaguya spared us from that mess.



No its based off of a one shot, about a 9 Tailed Demon boy named Naruto who learns about making friends, if you read the one shot you would know this was never about ninja.

Ninja are simply involved in the story.

so you believe the naruto series isnt about ninjas good to know.

 

[saw2097]

no thats not the same thing at all. Kishi left out 90% of the story and changed the series completely at the end of the final arc.

No he didn't, he has maintained the story, just put a major twist on it.

Part 2 was about the Akatsuki gathering the Tailed Beasts for a mysterious reason which was revealed to be to revive the Ten Tails, that has been maintained.

Part 1 was about Naruto meeting Sasuke and Jiraya and Tsunade, all who have had a major impact on his life.

You are ranting at this point and aren't even using any real point or issues, the manga has flaws but none of them are the ones you have listed.

 

[Deuz]

I read Naruto not only as a fan but critically as a writer. I stopped taking it seriously once BZ said Kaguya a few chapters ago. Now I may seem like a Madara wanker (I'm not), but he really was the better villain for the series. Everything already fit so well, it all made sense, the only input Kaguya and BZ had as villains was saying "nope, it was actually us". You could literally take out Kaguya from the current plot, and it would still make perfect sense and there wouldn't be a need for sudden mass explanation.

And that's only the crap about Kaguya. There are so many different routes Kishi could've taken with the plot. He chose a bad one.

Yeah or that or kishimoto can introduce somebody that is above kaguya and black zetsu to be the final villain of the series.

 

[hixa kuogame]

Honestly, do you ever NOT complain?

 

[take it easy]

Kaguya Chapter 1 : All Chakra is mine
Kaguya Chapter 2: All Chakra is mine, Hagoromo did give you this power!?
Kaguya Chapter 3 : All Chakra is Kaguya's , and is crying like Sakura U_U
Yep very interesting, i think youre niveau is so low

she more interesting because her motivation still mystery.

 

[obito uchiha the wraith]

Uh huh.

What we knew about the Bijuu wasn't a lie, they were 9 parts of a single being and that hasn't changed at all.

The two sons was mentioned back during the Five Kage Summit arc, and Obito said they reappear during each generation to fight.

At this point you aren't even using a real argument, you are just ranting.

are you dumb!? Dont you know that with each major change it changes things that were previously established? The jubi is supposed to be the proginator of all chakra this chapter we just found out its not and that all the bijuu are a part of kaguya..

 

[xxxLegacy]

Madara was a terrible final villain, he was just another Obito, same power and same principle, they were both Uchiha clan members who went psycho because they lost someone and they both wanted to escape reality in a genjutsu and they both got power from the Ten Tails.

The Madara battle was a repeat of the battle against Obito, the introduction of Kaguya spared us from that mess.



No its based off of a one shot, about a 9 Tailed Demon boy named Naruto who learns about making friends, if you read the one shot you would know this was never about ninja.

Ninja are simply involved in the story.

This guy has really said Madara is like Obito .............Rest in peace buddy U_U
When you even can not see the difference between Madara and Obito you should re read the Manga and then talk about it !