I can't really see anyone soloing Obito

[Curse Mark]

She wouldn't have bled to death from the moment she got stabbed to the moment the Genjutsu ended which was only a few minutes, and Obito stated she would die when the illusion ends. Since she couldn't have bled to death, the Genjutsu must have killed her.

Anything's possible, really. I don't even remember where the spike was from. It's possible it could have been covered in something and pierced her heart, causing it to fail.

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Not even going to bother responding to anything in your post as its just full of shit like all your other posts., weren't you going to put me on ignore? Maybe you should do that now cause I'm done replying to you.

ya ya kid keep saying that and quote me again hehe lol, dude chill for your own sake, hating a stranger from behind a screen (trying to talk about everything as if it was a debate that you can't loose) is not good for you, and ya i didn't put you on the ignore list again coz am too lazy and your not worth it, plus i think its amusing to watch your angry confused post .... so ya entertain me .... with your role playing logic (feats and all that crap) so ya tell me how the SO6P is weak coz by the "feats logic" we havn't seen anything from him.

 

[KidGamer65]

Anything's possible, really. I don't even remember where the spike was from. It's possible it could have been covered in something and pierced her heart, causing it to fail.

That was one of the chakra receivers from the Gedo Mazo also I seriously doubt it was covered in something.

 

[shelke]

I agree with your first point but not the second, well partly.

I agree that EMS Madara is stronger than Obito but he can't beat him in a fight since he can't hit him due to to Kamui, also Obito was never reluctant to bring Madara back, he was actually upset when Nagato betrayed him and used Rinne Tensei on the villagers, and once his only way of reviving Madara was gone he decided to go on with the plan by himself.

In terms of current feats? EMS Madara has about a 50/50 chance in my opinion. But you have to keep Obito's reluctance into consideration here as well. If Madara was not a threat to him, he wouldn't have completely crossed out the 'Madara's resurrection' from his to-do list. It's obvious the guy is/was intimidated by him.

Come on, he didn't want to resurrect Madara. I think that was pretty obvious? Otherwise, why didn't he do so immediately after Nagato and Konan joined with him? Instead, he chose Sasuke to sync with Mezo as he wanted to manipulate and push him for EMS. He knew he had potential, so he thought he would use him for his moon-eye plan. Madara was completely out of his equation a this point. Had Sasuke failed him, I believe he would have resurrected Madara. But that's a maybe.

 

[Curse Mark]

That was one of the chakra receivers from the Gedo Mazo also I seriously doubt it was covered in something.

Thanks for the reminder. I'm gonna have to re-read and find out why he had it, but i've never heard of anyone dying from a genjutsu, i don't think.. O.O

 

[~Rerrando~]

So basically you have Minato running away the whole fight? Juubi? I'm talking about his Jinchuuriki Paths, Bijuu 2-7 not the Juubi. Unless you can tell me how Minato beats 6 Bijuu and the Mazo then Obito wins.

Assuming Obito can just kill Kakashi instead of warping him I see, Kakashi has already been shown to be weaker in manga canon so this isn't up for debate.

Where did you get the ridiculous idea of Madara having all MS Jutsu from? Obviously he doesn't. This match is a stand off as neither one can beat the other.

It's not running away if you're dodging an attack that could kill you. Gedo Mazou is the Husk of the Juubi's body, when the resurrected it the Gedo Mazou became an irrelevant term for Juubi. Minato only used the Reaper Death seal to split Kurama's chakra and place it into Naruto, he had other sealing jutsu to deal with Kurama. The other jinchuuriki/ tailed beast are irrelevant.

Kakashi isn't weaker, as I've already stated Obito has a larger chakra reserve allowing to use Kamui and other jutsu without tiring.

Don't switch sides, from Obito will win to its a draw. It has already been stated Madara is and will forever the strongest Uchiha ever. Obito can only sustain Kamui for about 5 minutes, while Madara fought for about 3 FUC*ING days non-stop. Perfect Susano'o by far is the most devastating ability we've seen from any Uchiha. Plus Madara can send a damned meteor at you.

You clearly are OVER EXAGGERATING Kamui like its the ultimate jutsu. If anything its the most cowardly. You clearly are trying to realize that Minato, Madara and Hashirama could easily crush Obito. I also noticed that you failed to even counter my point that the 6 Paths of Pein would beat Obito.

I have not the time to spend arguing with a Noob that can't comprehend stated facts, reasonable spectulations, and common sense.

He did, but he stated that when his illusion ends so will her life, so I'm pretty sure he killed her with the Genjutsu.

I noticed lost an eye too.

 

[KidGamer65]

In terms of current feats? EMS Madara has about a 50/50 chance in my opinion. But you have to keep Obito's reluctance into consideration here as well. If Madara was not a threat to him, he wouldn't have completely crossed out the 'Madara's resurrection' from his to-do list. It's obvious the guy is/was intimidated by him.

Come on, he didn't want to resurrect Madara. I think that was pretty obvious? Otherwise, why didn't he do so immediately after Nagato and Konan joined with him? Instead, he chose Sasuke to sync with Mezo as he wanted to manipulate and push him for EMS. He knew he had potential, so he thought he would use him for his moon-eye plan. Madara was completely out of his equation a this point. Had Sasuke failed him, I believe he would have resurrected Madara. But that's a maybe.

I believe that EMS Madara vs Rinnegan Obito is tie simply because they can't kill each other.

Madara was supposed to be revived only when they had all the Bijuu, not before so of course he won't revive Madara as soon as Nagato joined. Also the syncing Sasuke with Gedo Mazo plan came into play after Nagato used Rinne Tensei on the Konoha villagers, not before. So that isn't a valid reason for him not wanting to revive Madara. Obito never showed anything that implied he didn't want to revive Madara.

Also if Sasuke had failed him then he would have no way of bringing Madara back as he has no way to bring him since Nagato sacrificed himself.

 

[KidGamer65]

It's not running away if you're dodging an attack that could kill you. Gedo Mazou is the Husk of the Juubi's body, when the resurrected it the Gedo Mazou became an irrelevant term for Juubi. Minato only used the Reaper Death seal to split Kurama's chakra and place it into Naruto, he had other sealing jutsu to deal with Kurama. The other jinchuuriki/ tailed beast are irrelevant.

Troll? When Minato can beat 6 Bijuu at the same time then we can talk.

Kakashi isn't weaker, as I've already stated Obito has a larger chakra reserve allowing to use Kamui and other jutsu without tiring.

Troll? It took 4 people to fight against Obito and one of those guys was Kakashi, if you want to keep denying manga facts then go right ahead, you'll just be written off as another troll.

Don't switch sides, from Obito will win to its a draw. It has already been stated Madara is and will forever the strongest Uchiha ever. Obito can only sustain Kamui for about 5 minutes, while Madara fought for about 3 FUC*ING days non-stop. Perfect Susano'o by far is the most devastating ability we've seen from any Uchiha. Plus Madara can send a damned meteor at you.

How can I switch sides when I NEVER SAID OBITO WOULD WIN IN THE FIRST PLACE. Obito sustains Kamui for 5 Min. consecutively , Madara has no attack to replicate the continuous non stop attack of Konan's bombs. Alsp Madara being stronger doesn't mean he will win. EDO Madara uses meteors, not EMS Madara.

You clearly are OVER EXAGGERATING Kamui like its the ultimate jutsu. If anything its the most cowardly. You clearly are trying to realize that Minato, Madara and Hashirama could easily crush Obito. I also noticed that you failed to even counter my point that the 6 Paths of Pein would beat Obito.

You're just like that moron above who got butthurt and started crying about Kamui, shut up and debate, if you can't do that then please stop wasting my time.

Minato isn't making it past Obito's Jins so whether I mention Kamui or not is irrelevant. Hashirama can counter Kamui so he can beat Obito, Madara can't so he can't win, but he won't lose either as Obito can kill him.

6POP are EASILY wrecked by Obito's Paths. Continuous Bijuu Dama will destroy every Path except Preta, physical attacks will kill him though.

I noticed lost an eye too.

Because of Izanagi.

Anyway, I'm done wasting time debating with a child who cries about moves being overrated when certain characters can't beat them.

 

[Curse Mark]

Okay, my opinion on Konan's death after re-reading. She used almost all her chakra. She was then impaled through the heart, summoned the strength to pull herself off and away, stumbled, and then STILL summoned the chakra to start making another attack, before being strangled. She easily could have died from lack of blood and chakra or being strangled while in the genjutsu.

 

[shelke]

I believe that EMS Madara vs Rinnegan Obito is tie simply because they can't kill each other.

Madara was supposed to be revived only when they had all the Bijuu, not before so of course he won't revive Madara as soon as Nagato joined. Also the syncing Sasuke with Gedo Mazo plan came into play after Nagato used Rinne Tensei on the Konoha villagers, not before. So that isn't a valid reason for him not wanting to revive Madara. Obito never showed anything that implied he didn't want to revive Madara.

Also if Sasuke had failed him then he would have no way of bringing Madara back as he has no way to bring him since Nagato sacrificed himself.

Obito was always planing ahead. I believe he knew that all his plans wouldn't go as smoothly as he predicted. In fact I believe he predicted a lot of outcomes? He could have foreseen that it would be better to revive Madara to add another powerful member to the group for the nine-tails Jinchurichi, they way he was progressing? Then his reaction to Kabuto reviving Madara through Edo-Tensai? He didn't look too pleased.

I am talking about manipulation. Tobi pushed Sasuke before Naruto even fought pain. Why was he going after Sasuke and his potential EMS through his manipulation even before Pein was sent to Konoha?

 

[JIRAIYA perv]

Troll? When Minato can beat 6 Bijuu at the same time then we can talk.


Troll? It took 4 people to fight against Obito and one of those guys was Kakashi, if you want to keep denying manga facts then go right ahead, you'll just be written off as another troll.



How can I switch sides when I NEVER SAID OBITO WOULD WIN IN THE FIRST PLACE. Obito sustains Kamui for 5 Min. consecutively , Madara has no attack to replicate the continuous non stop attack of Konan's bombs. Alsp Madara being stronger doesn't mean he will win. EDO Madara uses meteors, not EMS Madara.


You're just like that moron above who got butthurt and started crying about Kamui, shut up and debate, if you can't do that then please stop wasting my time.

Minato isn't making it past Obito's Jins so whether I mention Kamui or not is irrelevant. Hashirama can counter Kamui so he can beat Obito, Madara can't so he can't win, but he won't lose either as Obito can kill him.

6POP are EASILY wrecked by Obito's Paths. Continuous Bijuu Dama will destroy every Path except Preta, physical attacks will kill him though.





Because of Izanagi.

Anyway, I'm done wasting time debating with a child who cries about moves being overrated when certain characters can't beat them.

what a repulsive little fuc ......

 

[KidGamer65]

Obito was always planing ahead. I believe he knew that all his plans wouldn't go as smoothly as he predicted. In fact I believe he predicted a lot of outcomes? He could have foreseen that it would be better to revive Madara to add another powerful member to the group for the nine-tails Jinchurichi, they way he was progressing? Then his reaction to Kabuto reviving Madara through Edo-Tensai? He didn't look too pleased.

I am talking about manipulation. Tobi pushed Sasuke before Naruto even fought pain. Why was he going after Sasuke and
his potential EMS through his manipulation even before Pein was sent to Konoha?

Madara would be revived as an old man, not really a powerful addition for his plans.

Of course he wouldn't be pleased about Kabuto reviving Madara with Edo Tensei, it means that Madara is under Kabuto's control, and that it goes against the original plan.

Okay, my opinion on Konan's death after re-reading. She used almost all her chakra. She was then impaled through the heart, summoned the strength to pull herself off and away, stumbled, and then STILL summoned the chakra to start making another attack, before being strangled. She easily could have died from lack of blood and chakra or being strangled while in the genjutsu.

She wasn't stabbed through the heart, that was below her chest.

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Obito only strangled her for 5 seconds tops, there's no way she is going to die from that, and you see her eyes closing after Obito casts the Genjutsu.

 

[~Rerrando~]

Troll? When Minato can beat 6 Bijuu at the same time then we can talk.


Troll? It took 4 people to fight against Obito and one of those guys was Kakashi, if you want to keep denying manga facts then go right ahead, you'll just be written off as another troll.



How can I switch sides when I NEVER SAID OBITO WOULD WIN IN THE FIRST PLACE. Obito sustains Kamui for 5 Min. consecutively , Madara has no attack to replicate the continuous non stop attack of Konan's bombs. Alsp Madara being stronger doesn't mean he will win. EDO Madara uses meteors, not EMS Madara.


You're just like that moron above who got butthurt and started crying about Kamui, shut up and debate, if you can't do that then please stop wasting my time.

Minato isn't making it past Obito's Jins so whether I mention Kamui or not is irrelevant. Hashirama can counter Kamui so he can beat Obito, Madara can't so he can't win, but he won't lose either as Obito can kill him.

6POP are EASILY wrecked by Obito's Paths. Continuous Bijuu Dama will destroy every Path except Preta, physical attacks will kill him though.





Because of Izanagi.

Anyway, I'm done wasting time debating with a child who cries about moves being overrated when certain characters can't beat them.

You did indeed say Obito will win.

If you paid half attention to post you see I was arguing that these characters will beat Obito alone.

Madara would only need use Amaterasu, Perfect Susano'o or his infinitely many katon jutsu to expend Obito's Chakra.

Above all how dare you call me a child when your name is KidGamer.

 

[shelke]

Madara would be revived as an old man, not really a powerful addition for his plans.

Of course he wouldn't be pleased about Kabuto reviving Madara with Edo Tensei, it means that Madara is under Kabuto's control, and that it goes against the original plan.

I don't know how they would've accomplished it, but Madara wanted to be revived in a non-edo form, and I seriously doubt it was as an old hag lol. Anyways, I still believe Obito never intended to bring Madara back.

 

[KidGamer65]

You did indeed say Obito will win.

If you paid half attention to post you see I was arguing that these characters will beat Obito alone.

Madara would only need use Amaterasu, Perfect Susano'o or his infinitely many katon jutsu to expend Obito's Chakra.

Above all how dare you call me a child when your name is KidGamer.

I said Madara can't win, not that he would lose, and I never once said Obito would win. Unless you can show me posts of me stating Obito would lose to Madara in this thread, which you obviously can't do. I'm pretty sure YOU are the one who needs to pay attention to my posts so you don't make stupid accusations.

What a load of BS. Obito already countered Amaterasu with Kamui in the manga, Perfect Susanoo doesn't create a continuous 5 min. attack like Konan's bombs did. Nor is is fast enough to get him before he goes intangible. Obito can just phase right through the Katon jutsu.

My username may be KidGamer but you are the one complaining about a character's moves just because it hurts your argument, then you proceed to cry about how it is overrated, yet you have no legit counter.

Your words dictate more about your personality then your username.

 

[KidGamer65]

I don't know how they would've accomplished it, but Madara wanted to be revived in a non-edo form, and I seriously doubt it was as an old hag lol. Anyways, I still believe Obito never intended to bring Madara back.

Ok, I guess we have to agree to disagree then.

 

[Curse Mark]

Obito only strangled her for 5 seconds tops, there's no way she is going to die from that, and you see her eyes closing after Obito casts the Genjutsu.

Any proof he only strangled her for 5 seconds...? And her eyes close so that means she died? Also, if you are saying her eyes are closed so she's dead when he CASTS the genjutsu, this would completely go against her dying when the genjutsu ENDED.

 

[KidGamer65]

Any proof he only strangled her for 5 seconds...? And her eyes close so that means she died? Also, if you are saying her eyes are closed so she's dead when he CASTS the genjutsu, this would completely go against her dying when the genjutsu ENDED.

She didn't bleed to death as there is no blood surrounding her while she in the water, not to mention she would bleed to death so quickly from a wound that didn't hinder her ability to attack. Unless you believe she will bleed to death from a stomach wound in less than a minute, which is impossible.

I never even said she died afterwards, she probably closed her eyes, and opened them again in a zombified state to tell Obito where the Rinnegan was then he left. Its pretty clear she had to have been awake after she close her eyes to tell him where the Rinnegan was. If she died from being strangled too long she wouldn't have been able to tell him where the Rinnegan was, unless you are implying that she conveniently died of lack of oxygen right after the illusion ended, which is very unlikely.

 

[shelke]

^ It's highly possible to die within a minute or so from a severe wound, as the minute a body's red-blood cell count is reduced from 100 to below 95, it's instant death. However, Obito was only reading her mind, which would take less than a second.

 

[KidGamer65]

^ It's highly possible to die within a minute or so from a severe wound, as the minute a body's red-blood cell count is reduced from 100 to below 95, it's instant death. However, Obito was only reading her mind, which would take less than a second.

Oh, I was wrong to say it's impossible, my bad.

Ohhh, that explains things better, thanks xd. I thought Obito was going to control her and make her talk lo.