[Discussion] I cant imagine Kishimoto TROLLING Hiruzen this bad.

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Recent chapters have unveiled why Hiruzen has been missing for 4 chapters.

Its because when he got blasted by obito, he actually died and couldn't recover. But I cant imagine kishimoto would bring back all the hokages just to have them die without reveiling their anticipated full power.

And what was the point of killing off the ONLY person (Hiruzen) who logically deduced obito's OP Ying-Yang chakra manipulation before he could even tell anyone how it worked.​

So this is what I think:

1. Orochimaru will come and revive hiruzen. (Tobirama cant do it because he doesn't have Hiruzen's DNA)

2. Naruto and Tobirama will share that senjutsu hurts obito.

3. Naruto, Tobirama, Hiruzen, and possibly Orochimaru (now that he has senju body) will enter sage mode.

4. Then Hiruzen will explain how obito's jutsu works and they will fight him together.

Sometime before/after that minato will give naruto the other half of kurama, which is when naruto will go kyuubi sage mode or use all bijuu's power + sage mode to become the next sage. Then he will fight obito 1vs1.

The reason I didn't suggest minato enter sage mode is because we know from the manga that tobirama and hiruzen both have strong chakra and had large chakra reserves so it was possible for them to learn it. Also, if hiruzen did master every jutsu in the village that would include sage mode, because hashirama had it.

But anyway that what I think, But I would like to know what you think.

Is Hiruzen really just gone or is there a chance we could get the 3rd god of shinobi back?​
 

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Recent chapters have unveiled why Hiruzen has been missing for 4 chapters.

Its because when he got blasted by obito, he actually died and couldn't recover. But I cant imagine kishimoto would bring back all the hokages just to have them die without reveiling their anticipated full power.

And what was the point of killing off the ONLY person (Hiruzen) who logically deduced obito's OP Ying-Yang chakra manipulation before he could even tell anyone how it worked.​

So this is what I think:

1. Orochimaru will come and revive hiruzen. (Tobirama cant do it because he doesn't have Hiruzen's DNA)

2. Naruto and Tobirama will share that senjutsu hurts obito.

3. Naruto, Tobirama, Hiruzen, and possibly Orochimaru (now that he has senju body) will enter sage mode.

4. Then Hiruzen will explain how obito's jutsu works and they will fight him together.

Sometime before/after that minato will give naruto the other half of kurama, which is when naruto will go kyuubi sage mode or use all bijuu's power + sage mode to become the next sage. Then he will fight obito 1vs1.

The reason I didn't suggest minato enter sage mode is because we know from the manga that tobirama and hiruzen both have strong chakra and had large chakra reserves so it was possible for them to learn it. Also, if hiruzen did master every jutsu in the village that would include sage mode, because hashirama had it.

But anyway that what I think, But I would like to know what you think.

Is Hiruzen really just gone or is there a chance we could get the 3rd god of shinobi back?​

When did Hiruzen or Tobirama get any sort of sage mode? Did I miss something? Also Orochimaru can't use sage mode, they said so earlier in the manga. Sage mode isn't a jutsu, and it is impossible for Hiruzen to have learned evert jutsu in konoha.
 

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Recent chapters have unveiled why Hiruzen has been missing for 4 chapters.

Its because when he got blasted by obito, he actually died and couldn't recover. But I cant imagine kishimoto would bring back all the hokages just to have them die without reveiling their anticipated full power.

And what was the point of killing off the ONLY person (Hiruzen) who logically deduced obito's OP Ying-Yang chakra manipulation before he could even tell anyone how it worked.​

So this is what I think:

1. Orochimaru will come and revive hiruzen. (Tobirama cant do it because he doesn't have Hiruzen's DNA)

2. Naruto and Tobirama will share that senjutsu hurts obito.

3. Naruto, Tobirama, Hiruzen, and possibly Orochimaru (now that he has senju body) will enter sage mode.

4. Then Hiruzen will explain how obito's jutsu works and they will fight him together.

Sometime before/after that minato will give naruto the other half of kurama, which is when naruto will go kyuubi sage mode or use all bijuu's power + sage mode to become the next sage. Then he will fight obito 1vs1.

The reason I didn't suggest minato enter sage mode is because we know from the manga that tobirama and hiruzen both have strong chakra and had large chakra reserves so it was possible for them to learn it. Also, if hiruzen did master every jutsu in the village that would include sage mode, because hashirama had it.

But anyway that what I think, But I would like to know what you think.

Is Hiruzen really just gone or is there a chance we could get the 3rd god of shinobi back?​
Looks like a good thread, but didnt Tobirama and Hashirama(clone maybe) get hit by the black stuff?
They regenerated. It wasnt until Obito started using the black balls, when he gained control of the Juubi, that Edo's didnt regenerate anymore. Hiruzen could still be fine.
What do you think?
 

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Looks like a good thread, but didnt Tobirama and Hashirama(clone maybe) get hit by the black stuff?
They regenerated. It wasnt until Obito started using the black balls, when he gained control of the Juubi, that Edo's didnt regenerate anymore. Hiruzen could still be fine.
What do you think?


Tobirama never recovered when he first got hit.

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When did Hiruzen or Tobirama get any sort of sage mode? Did I miss something? Also Orochimaru can't use sage mode, they said so earlier in the manga. Sage mode isn't a jutsu, and it is impossible for Hiruzen to have learned evert jutsu in konoha.

1. I was stating that they might demonstrate sage mode in later chapters.

2. Orochimaru can use sage mode. It was explained that he didn't have the proper vessel to use sage mode. Now he does!!

3. Hiruzen was clearly stated by orochimaru to know and master every technique in the village. Its not impossible, it just requires a genius.
 

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He recovered after the explosions. So in the end he recovered.

That's true.

I hope he comes back. But Im not sure. Hiruzen was takin out by the black orb, just like minato.
 

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That's true.

I hope he comes back. But Im not sure. Hiruzen was takin out by the black orb, just like minato.
It wasnt an orb back than and Obito wasnt in control yet (didnt have the cape, staff, black balls etc.
 

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It wasnt an orb back than and Obito wasnt in control yet (didnt have the cape, staff, black balls etc.

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They were still the chakra balls. The only difference was that obito was not in control.
 

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Lol poor hiruzen. I think he just got trolled.
 

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When did Hiruzen or Tobirama get any sort of sage mode? Did I miss something? Also Orochimaru can't use sage mode, they said so earlier in the manga. Sage mode isn't a jutsu, and it is impossible for Hiruzen to have learned evert jutsu in konoha.

Can you provide link to where it says Oro can't use sage mode? Also it's entirely possible for Hiruzen to learn every jutsu in Konoha. He may not be able to perform them but he can sure as hell know about the techniques.
 

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Hiruzen pawned, trolls revolt around his corpse
 

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plsss kishi.. plss give the old man some screen time..
 
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