i can't forgive lord sasuke

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This is pure BS just like your character.

Okay I agree sasuke said very flashy thing which attracted majority of kids.

But wait what happened after 15 minutes?
The same kakashi did more damage than sasuke against kaguya.

And the sasuke's words about sakura was proved wrong when same sakura saved him from dying in desert dimension by giving her chakra to Obito and because of her vest sasuke used S/T to swap with it.

If sakura and naruto's clone didn't help Obito then sasuke would be fodderized in desert dimension by now.

Anyways sakura did more damage to kaguya than sasuke.at least she touched her body Lol unlike sasuke Lol.
Why are you showing us the scan which is already proved wrong?

Tsuande once said that naruto would not learn rasengan but latter naruto not only learnt rasengan in a week but he saved her ass too.

Should I bring that scan of tsunade's words too? Lol


At least he became a hokage unlike sasuke Lol who got pardoned just because of naruto. Lol

Anyways sasuke is the first HOBO and it is his feat

That was Obito's strategy that saved Sasuke not Sakura's.
If you properly read my post you'd see that I didn't disagree with Kakashi coming up with better strategies than Sasuke.
Everything you're saying right now does absolutely nothing to negate my points. At that particular moment in time during the IT, Kakashi and Sakura were utterly useless..Kaguya wasn't even there yet, I don't have any clue why you continue to bring her up.
 

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And sasuke was the one who saved naruto from BZ and kaguya's attacks Lol.

Would Naruto even be there without Sasuke's assist? Dude was about run off even after being saved Lol

Unlike Sasuke, Naruto has help from 9 other living things inside him aiding him and giving him chakra
 
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Would Naruto even be that without Sasuke's assist? U_U

Unlike Sasuke, Naruto has help from 9 other living things inside him aiding him and giving him chakra


We're back to this huh?

Naruto saved sasuke multiple times from kaguya and BZ.

Naruto did get chakra from the tailed beasts to stay alive and also to replenish his chakra, whereas sasuke was given all of edo hashirama's chakra. The tailed beasts inside naruto don't do anything more than give him chakra, and sasuke barely does anything to munch up his chakra supply.

 

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Ass? Please use respective terms next time. We're discussing here.
As for what you said. It was implied in the manga that if Naruto went out, he would be caught in the genjutsu. This is not a normal genjutsu. It was a Universal level genjutsu that caught people who didn't even look at it.

Even Bee who was a Bijuu back then [idk how tho] was caught in it.
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And if what you say was true, Naruto wouldn't have listened to Sasuke. He would've left without even listening to Sasuke

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You just hypothesized that Naruto, since he was a perfect Jinchuriki, won't be caught in the ultimate genjutsu. It was never mentioned that he won't be affected. Also, Sasuke is not stupid. He would've let Naruto out if the Jinchuriki wouldn't be caught in it.

As for Naruto saving the SA, I didn't say otherwise.
Okay sorry for that word.


Hachibi was extracted from killer bee.only his tail left there.
In order to break the genjutsu,jin should have a bijuu to get him out of it.Bee had a 1 half tail of hachibi and he was trying to absorb it.

Hachibi was not there to awake him from IT.

Sasuke doesn't know that genjutsu can't work against perfect jins otherwise killer bee wouldn't whooped his ass
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There is no proof that IT can work against perfect jins.

The reason naruto stopped was that there was not a suitable time to experiment on it.whole world lies on their shoulders.if anyone of them died in the process then the madara/kaguya would win.
 

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Yeah it was literally a 2 on 1. People always bringing up Sasuke "borrowed power-ups" but until he actually another living almost infinite chakra being inside him that also gives him strategies during battle, I don't want to hear sh*t.
Sasukebase always bringing up silly arguments like "it was 2 vs1" or that "Kurama is living being", but forgetting that current Sasuke would be blind fodder without Itachi's eyes.
 

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That was Obito's strategy that saved Sasuke not Sakura's.
If you properly read my post you'd see that I didn't disagree with Kakashi coming up with better strategies than Sasuke.
Everything you're saying right now does absolutely nothing to negate my points. At that particular moment in time during the IT, Kakashi and Sakura were utterly useless..Kaguya wasn't even there yet, I don't have any clue why you continue to bring her up.
My point was that the sasuke's words proved wrong when sakura saved sasuke.it doesn't matter whose plan that was.without sakura And naruto clone's chakra, Obito wouldn't be able to bring sasuke back.

Kakashi cut through kaguya.his kamui shurikens cut her chakra arms.

When kakashi and sakura proved that they was not useless then why are you saying it?

Why are you bringing the thing which is already proved to be wrong?
 

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Okay sorry for that word.


Hachibi was extracted from killer bee.only his tail left there.
In order to break the genjutsu,jin should have a bijuu to get him out of it.Bee had a 1 half tail of hachibi and he was trying to absorb it.

Hachibi was not there to awake him from IT.

Sasuke doesn't know that genjutsu can't work against perfect jins otherwise killer bee wouldn't whooped his ass
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There is no proof that IT can work against perfect jins.

The reason naruto stopped was that there was not a suitable time to experiment on it.whole world lies on their shoulders.if anyone of them died in the process then the madara/kaguya would win.



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Sasuke does know that genjutsu doesn't work on perfect jins, after his fail incident against Bee. IT however does work on perfect jins. Everyone. That is why they were to be beneath Naruto and the others were to be caught in it.​
 

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If sasuke fought against naruto without using any bijuus then the fight would be over within a second.

Naruto with half kyuubi with no intend to kill sasuke fodderized sasuke with new asspull bijuu chakra with new big Bijuu susanoo.

RM naruto with all bijuus chakra can wipe the floor with sasuke's gay ass Lol

Sasuke took bits of the Bijuu's chakra which Naruto already possessed throughout the Kaguya fight enabling him to use Lava and many other nature releases, despite this Naruto still had to gather the planets natural energy source just to match Sasuke's attack

So it was Naruto + Yin Kurama + 9 tailed beast chakra + worlds natural energy

Against

Sasuke + Bijuu chakra

We're back to this huh?

Naruto saved sasuke multiple times from kaguya and BZ.

Naruto did get chakra from the tailed beasts to stay alive and also to replenish his chakra, whereas sasuke was given all of edo hashirama's chakra. The tailed beasts inside naruto don't do anything more than give him chakra, and sasuke barely does anything to munch up his chakra supply.


Hashirama gave Sasuke his chakra to enable him to use a jutsu (which he didn't even use), he loses that chakra and his own when he was dying, how can you compare that to receiving massive supply of chakra from a tailed beast and having their nature release?

Sasukebase always bringing up silly arguments like "it was 2 vs1" or that "Kurama is living being", but forgetting that current Sasuke would be blind fodder without Itachi's eyes.

Lel, EMS only allows you to use MS techs longer, it doesn't upgrade any of your previous powers, the only upgrade you could get is Perfect Susano'o, EMS simply gives you enough time to perfect it, how's that the same as having a living thing inside you guiding you and supplying you chakra? Lol
 
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Okay sorry for that word.


Hachibi was extracted from killer bee.only his tail left there.
In order to break the genjutsu,jin should have a bijuu to get him out of it.Bee had a 1 half tail of hachibi and he was trying to absorb it.

Hachibi was not there to awake him from IT.

Sasuke doesn't know that genjutsu can't work against perfect jins otherwise killer bee wouldn't whooped his ass
.

There is no proof that IT can work against perfect jins.

The reason naruto stopped was that there was not a suitable time to experiment on it.whole world lies on their shoulders.if anyone of them died in the process then the madara/kaguya would win.

Np

How in the world would Bee absorb a tail if he wasn't a Jinchuriki? Plus, if the Jinchuriki was extracted from Bee, he would be dead, or at least immobile; unable to move. Again, you just hypothesized things.

Sure thing Sauce was heavily damaged in his fight with Bee. Do you expect him to go out of a fight against a full synced Jinchuriki without any eye experience unscathed? No sir.

Bold: What? Naruto clearly was going to save Hinata without thinking about it. Sasuke then stopped him and told him that if he was to go out, he would be caught in it. Naruto immediately knew that Sasuke was right, otherwise he would be caught. Naruto knows himself. Unless you're inferring that Naruto is stupid somehow and doesn't know anything :rolleyes:
 
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Sasuke does know that genjutsu doesn't work on perfect jins, after his fail incident against Bee. IT however does work on perfect jins. Everyone. That is why they were to be beneath Naruto and the others were to be caught in it.​
May be IT is the only exception against perfect jins.
Np

How in the world would Bee absorb a tail if he wasn't a Jinchuriki. Plus, if the Jinchuriki was extracted from Bee, he would be dead, or at least immobile; unable to move. Again, you just hypothesized things.

Sure thing Sauce was heavily damaged in his fight with Bee. Do you expect him to go out of a fight against a full synced Jinchuriki without any eye experience unscathed? No sir.

Bold: What? Naruto clearly was going to save Hinata without thinking about it. Sasuke then stopped him and told him that if he was to go out, he would be caught in it. Naruto immediately knew that Sasuke was right, otherwise he would be caught. Naruto knows himself. Unless you're inferring that Naruto is stupid somehow and doesn't know anything :rolleyes:
TBH kishi made really hard to figure out whether hachibi got extracted out of bee or that he only left his 1 tail behind.

But I agree with you that bee used some kind of asspull no jutsu to survive from the extraction and he had hachibi in him as it is shown in the last chapter.

I was just trying to say that sasuke had no exp how perfect jins can break out of genjutsu.

There were the times when emotions took over naruto and naruto did something which was not right for him.
For example against orochimaru,naruto slapped the bich out of sakura.naruto cut the arm of kaguya in rage without thinking anything.

Sasuke helped naruto to understand the current situation and he shouldn't have to go out just because of his emotions.

TBH there is also a no proof that Perfect jins can break IT against perfect jins.

May be IT is the only exception as it is the highest form of genjutsu.

I'm not a blind fanboy.I was just pointing a possibility.I am not kishi and my words are not facts.
 
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Sasuke took bits of the Bijuu's chakra which Naruto already possessed throughout the Kaguya fight enabling him to use Lava and many other nature releases, despite this Naruto still had to gather the planets natural energy source just to match Sasuke's attack

So it was Naruto + Yin Kurama + 9 tailed beast chakra + worlds natural energy

Against

Sasuke + Bijuu chakra



Hashirama gave Sasuke his chakra to enable him to use a jutsu (which he didn't even use), he loses that chakra and his own when he was dying, how can you compare that to receiving massive supply of chakra from a tailed beast and having their nature release?



Lel, EMS only allows you to use MS techs longer, it doesn't upgrade any of your previous powers, the only upgrade you could get is Perfect Susano'o, EMS simply gives you enough time to perfect it, how's that the same as having a living thing inside you guiding you and supplying you chakra? Lol
Since when does naruto used other 8 bijuu chakra against sasuke? Lol.

You just soloed your own self by stating that naruto used lava and many other KKG FRS against kaguya.
But that was against kaguya,right? Lol

Against sasuke,naruto was not trying to kill him and he was not using any other bijuu chakra.

So it was Naruto + Yin kurama

Against

Sasuke with EMS,Rinnegan and all bijuus
 

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May be IT is the only exception against perfect jins.

TBH kishi made really hard to figure out whether hachibi got extracted out of bee or that he only left his 1 tail behind.

But I agree with you that bee used some kind of asspull no jutsu to survive from the extraction and he had hachibi in him as it is shown in the last chapter.

I was just trying to say that sasuke had no exp how perfect jins can break out of genjutsu.

There were the times when emotions took over naruto and naruto did something which was not right for him.
For example against orochimaru,naruto slapped the bich out of sakura.naruto cut the arm of kaguya in rage without thinking anything.

Sasuke helped naruto to understand the current situation and he shouldn't have to go out just because of his emotions.

TBH there is also a no proof that Perfect jins can break IT against perfect jins.

May be IT is the only exception as it is the highest form of genjutsu.

I'm not a blind fanboy.I was just pointing a possibility.I am not kishi and my words are not facts.

True. I was just saying that Sasuke saved the group from falling into IT; however, they all worked together to negate it. You can't deny that. Lol
 

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Sucks to be Kakashi, his pride was once again hurt when one arm Sasuke had to save him and the entire village from that meteoroid

And dont forget he even saved the fodder leader of the Hyuga clan too
 

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Sucks to be Kakashi, his pride was once again hurt when one arm Sasuke had to save him and the entire village from that meteoroid

Haha, awesomeness. I will forgive everything my husband does.
 

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It's the arrogant manners of uchiha, and the trademark of loosers.
Madara was arrogant, he got a lame end.
Obito was quite arrogant in early stages of war, biggest looser badguy ever
Sasuke always been arrogant, got beaten half his fights and finally beaten by a war worn-out naruto.

The only one who wasn't that much of arrogant was Itachi who knew that ennemies shouldn't be understimated. Died by illness who took him by his fatigue.
 

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Did I miss something in that chapter?

Nah, when Hinata said the over-cliched statement "Naruto-kun" before being sealed by the tree after fallin' to IT. He noticed. He wanted to go to her but Sauce denied him.
 

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Since when does naruto used other 8 bijuu chakra against sasuke? Lol.

You just soloed your own self by stating that naruto used lava and many other KKG FRS against kaguya.
But that was against kaguya,right? Lol

Against sasuke,naruto was not trying to kill him and he was not using any other bijuu chakra.

So it was Naruto + Yin kurama

Against

Sasuke with EMS,Rinnegan and all bijuus

Kill him? You think Lava or any other nature release RSS can kill Sasuke? lol Sasuke will just absorb it, I think Naruto is smart enough to know that

So what did Sasuke use from the Bijuu's besides their chakra? Both Sasuke and Naruto possessed their chakra both didnt use anything but their chakra, Sasuke simply combined the bijuus chakra to his Susano'o while Naruto possessed their chakra from the inside

Despite this Naruto still needed the worlds energy source even when possessing the same bijuu chakra as Sasuke, so let me clarify this for you it was

Naruto + yin Kurama + 9 bijuus + planets natural energy

Against

Sasuke + 9 Bijuu's

And tell me how the rinnegan or the ems (even though he only used a basic sharingan before their base battle) can supply chakra? :coffee:
 
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This is pure BS just like your character.

Okay I agree sasuke said very flashy thing which attracted majority of kids.

But wait what happened after 15 minutes?
The same kakashi did more damage than sasuke against kaguya.

And the sasuke's words about sakura was proved wrong when same sakura saved him from dying in desert dimension by giving her chakra to Obito and because of her vest sasuke used S/T to swap with it.

If sakura and naruto's clone didn't help Obito then sasuke would be fodderized in desert dimension by now.

Anyways sakura did more damage to kaguya than sasuke.at least she touched her body Lol unlike sasuke Lol.
Why are you showing us the scan which is already proved wrong?

Tsuande once said that naruto would not learn rasengan but latter naruto not only learnt rasengan in a week but he saved her ass too.

Should I bring that scan of tsunade's words too? Lol


At least he became a hokage unlike sasuke Lol who got pardoned just because of naruto. Lol

Anyways sasuke is the first HOBO and it is his feat

Ask yourself this. Would have Kakashi been able to do anything had Kishi not pulled something out of his ass? No.

When Sasuke said what he said, it was completely true. If Kakashi had DMS do you think Sasuke would have told him that?

Again, at that time Sakura was also useless. They were fighting against Madara who had completely different techniques from Kaguya. You act as if Sasuke knew. They would end up fighting Kaguya.
 
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