I am calling BS.

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I understand that there are many Kakashi fan boys out there, but before I start raging/arguing I want everyone to know I am not one (a Kakashi fan boy)

First of all Kakashi is strong! Sure there a ton of people who think he is stronger than he actually is, but he is not some third rate Genin with low chakra. He has a very high amount of chakra and just because he can only use his Kamui a couple times but that does not make him weak...!

I have seen thread between Kakashi and Deidara with people claiming Kakashi would be bested easily. BULLSHIT. Ok, so maybe Kakashi would not win but he also would not easily loose. The same goes for Kakazu, he is a useless Akatsuki member. He lost to Naruto alone before, sage mode, and BM.

If you think Guy is better/stronger than Kakashi you are wrong. Kishi makes a point to say these characters are foils for each other. So if they faced off each would win 5/10 times or it would be a draw..... "Oh but Guy beat Kisame with that could tiger Justu." Good for him, but it was only because of his non-chakra attacks. Maybe Kakashi would be beaten by Kisame in a battle but it would be damn close.

So people, please, STOP ****ING UNDERESTIMATING KAKASHI. He is at Hokage level, he was next up for Hokage when Tsunade went into a comma. Just because he doesn't have five hearts, or can't blows things up with clay, or can't control sand, it doesn't mean he isnt strong....!

Thank you for putting up with me. Sorry if you think I am an idiot, but you are wrong, and Kakashi is strong.
 

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This will be on the hot list fast. Let the flames begin, But I agree with everything you said lol
 

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Id like to take a moment and call bull on the "Kakuzu is useless" point. He lost to Naruto due to plot to show off the Rasenshuriken. Keep in mind Kakuzu went head to head with the First Hokage (who apparently is a god of sorts) and lived. Also, according to you Kakashi is not a pushover, yet Kakuzu would have killed him and the others if it werent for backup. U_U

Thank you.
 

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I Don't think many people do under Estimate Kakashi in fact he has quite a large fanbase here on NB
 

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I'm actually inclined to agree with you, he isn't weak. If you think back he went on a rampage against the seven swordsmen and won plus he isn't done showing us his surprises like the chidori chain lightning or whatever. So he is NOT weak lol
 

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I agree, but Rasenshuriken is no ordinary jutsu, Kakashi won't be able to defeat Kakuzu. Other than that, I completely agree.
 

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Id like to take a moment and call bull on the "Kakuzu is useless" point. He lost to Naruto due to plot to show off the Rasenshuriken. Keep in mind Kakuzu went head to head with the First Hokage (who apparently is a god of sorts) and lived. Also, according to you Kakashi is not a pushover, yet Kakuzu would have killed him and the others if it werent for backup. U_U

Thank you.

I did not know he battled the First Hokage.
 

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you release all the points you made are opions and theres no hard facts? atleast present some data on why you think hes kage level, and you do realize kage is the not just strongest in the village but the one who could manage it affectevly. only reason naruto wasnt choosen cuz he is an idiot. and kakashi chakra levels are that of a normal jounin noting special,his tiajutsu is that of a juonin noting special, his ninjutsu is far above normal jounin maby S rank but not kage. hes simply the strongest JOUNIN in the village hes not weak but diedara would destroy him
 

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you release all the points you made are opions and theres no hard facts? atleast present some data on why you think hes kage level, and you do realize kage is the not just strongest in the village but the one who could manage it affectevly. only reason naruto wasnt choosen cuz he is an idiot. and kakashi chakra levels are that of a normal jounin noting special,his tiajutsu is that of a juonin noting special, his ninjutsu is far above normal jounin maby S rank but not kage. hes simply the strongest JOUNIN in the village hes not weak but diedara would destroy him

How can you say there are no facts to back up him being at Kage level... He was chosen to be the Kage in place of Tsunade... He was ready to become the Hokage... That my friend is a fact
 

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I did not know he battled the First Hokage.

Yee, when Kakashi and him fought he said that he fought the First Hokage, I think it was when the fight was just starting and Kakuzu was saying something about how he has been alive for a long time
 

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The only thing I like is the rhyme "...But you are wrong, Kakashi is strong."
 

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this is why you must actually atleast know something first before posting bullshit

So one thing I did not know sue me, you cannot discredit the whole thread based on one fact I didn't know...

You are just a Kakashi hater... it is okay, this is why I made this thread to point out people like you
 

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No amount of mental fortitude will help you with the flaming to come! Good luck

P.S. Kakashi isn't underrated by most. He simply isn't as badass as the Top-Tier Shinobi.

Edit: Just took out the friend part, you say Kakashi is stronger than Kakuzu? Tsk tsk.
 
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I understand that there are many Kakashi fan boys out there, but before I start raging/arguing I want everyone to know I am a Kakashi fan boy

First of all Kakashi is strong! Sure there a ton of people who think he is stronger than he actually is, but he is not some third rate Genin with low chakra. He has a very high amount of chakra and just because he can only use his Kamui a couple times but that does not make him weak...!

I have seen thread between Kakashi and Deidara with people claiming Kakashi would be bested easily. BULLSHIT. Ok, so maybe Kakashi would not win but he also would not easily loose. The same goes for Kakazu, he is a useless Akatsuki member. He lost to Naruto alone before, sage mode, and BM.

If you think Guy is better/stronger than Kakashi you are wrong. Kishi makes a point to say these characters are foils for each other. So if they faced off each would win 5/10 times or it would be a draw..... "Oh but Guy beat Kisame with that could tiger Justu." Good for him, but it was only because of his non-chakra attacks. Maybe Kakashi would be beaten by Kisame in a battle but it would be damn close.

So people, please, STOP ****ING UNDERESTIMATING KAKASHI. He is at Hokage level, he was next up for Hokage when Tsunade went into a comma. Just because he doesn't have five hearts, or can't blows things up with clay, or can't control sand, it doesn't mean he isnt strong....!

Thank you for putting up with me. Sorry if you think I am an idiot, but you are wrong, and Kakashi is strong.

kakashi has low stamina.
- you say kakuzu lost to naruto alone no SM, KM, BM, but kakashi was bearly putting up with kakuzu.
- Deidara would wreck kakashi.
- It wouldnt be a close battle, kakashi stands no chance against kisame.
- kakashi is 7/10 strong, not 10/10
 

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Why are you presenting these nonesensical ideas? Kakashi is not Hokage level, he was only going to be chosen due to the extreme shortage of candidates. His chakra reserves are relatively poor. He is an extremely intelligent shinobi, but Hokage level?:rolleyes:

I'd put Kakashi at the low end of the Akatsuki.
 

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note kakashi can beat deidara kakashi ha slighting relase and sharingan like sauske so he can do what deidara did he can even warp out his suiside bomb and deidaras arm again. seeing as his control over kamui has gotten better he could warp deidaras arm off fatser the next time so yes kakahsi can ebat deidara the rest i also agree with but some people are better then kakashi.
 
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