[Spoilers] Huge spoilers + my theory that will shut fanboys up!!!!

[~Yubel~]

Theirs no reason for a lie here it profits no one, Jiraiya would have ben a good addition for Kabuto, but did not happen. Are you so afraid of death you can't let go?

No, you think a snake like kabuto would reveal "oh, btw i have a sannin which i´m saving for the right time".
It profits kabuto, why waste jiraiya in the war, have him as a protection if anyone ever comes to his location.
It would be very cool to see jiraiya come back, he lost an arm remember, i´m sure kabuto could find dna in that arm to revive him.

 

[Kirin Rei]

This^
Unless you idiots can´t read, i already said that these are not facts but judging how his guy has been righton almost everything, i wouldn´t be so quick to call it stupid like a certain someone*thinks she´s all hot stuff*

Why are you insulting people out of the blue?
Please, watch your manners.

And since when could you trust what a snake-man who black-mailed you earlier says?
It´s obvious he was lying to tobi.
It´s true that i can´t prove anything but you can´t disprove it either.

I concur that we should take everything that Kabuto and Tobi state with a grain of salt, but under these circumstances it would be a surprise if Jiraiya was actually zombified. Not the other way around.

Hell, even the Juubi could turn out to be a bloody unicorn who pooped rainbows, but we have no such proof of that, same as the revival of Jiraiya, so I advise you not to be so adamant on defending it.

As for your last statement about disproving your theory... You do know that the burden of proof lies with the claimant, don't you? :|

 

[99minutes]

Here's the full thing, if anyone hasn't seen it yet (though unlikely). It is interesting to read and does sound probable.

Especially about Zetsu being made up of Madara's DNA (black half) and Hashirama's DNA (white half — which is already confirmed anyway).

Spoiler

1- Naruto's connection with the First Hokage will be soon reveal.

2- Tobi vs Naruto round 1 will end soon and Tobi will retreat. It will be more of a test of strength. They will both learn about each other’s powers.

3- Kabuto's true target is Naruto not Sasuke. He will explain why soon.

4- Tobi's interest in Naruto is more than just the Kyuubi. Guess what else he is after?

5- Jiraiya's re-appearance is around the corner and we will reveal a lot of juicy stuff. What we got from Kabuto about Jiraiya's body under water so he could not got it and took DNA from it was a lie, Jiraiya lost an arm agains Pain, so Kabuto found it and took it, he will explain this more detailed soon to Tobi

6- Shinobi HQ will soon be attack. Three guess who 666.

7- Naruto can somehow use all the five elements, some of Jiraiya, Minato, Kushina jutsu and it will be explain. This jutsu includes Uzumaki sealing jutsus as well.

8- Something about the Real Madara will soon be shown.

9- 3rd Raikage, 2nd Mizukage and Gaara's father were all bloodline limit user. It was a Magnetic Release

10- One of Sasuke's new powers is to slow down time in the real world. It will make him seem faster than his enemy. Unlike Tsukuyomi which happens in the mind, this one happens outside of the mind.

11- Another of Sasuke upgrade will be his Amaterasu shield.

12- Black half Zetsu was created with Madara's DNA. In other word, Zetsu is made up of both Hashirama's DNA (white Zetsu) and Madara's DNA (black Zetsu).

13- According to the reliable source, Zetsu is the main key for Tobi's Time/Space Jutsu. Just like Minato, Tobi needs something to guide him of his exit/entrance. In other word, the way Tobi knows where to find and appears to someone is through Zetsu. This information will soon be revealed.

However, I'm still not betting my chips on this. Like many people, I want a proper source. This isn't the first time "spoilers" have been posted around the net. It's like every year, new "spoilers" pop up.

Remember that one about "the Eight Tails attacking Konoha"? Oh man, we all had a good laugh about that one

 

[lubricati0n]

And who the hell said he would bring back jiraiya just to please fans?
I just made that theory that if kabuto has jiraiyas dna then he could summon him to fight itachi who is currently searching for Kabuto.
For all you know, this could be some planned shit from the beginning.

Calm down buddy, I was only going by what you said in your theory in which I doubt.

"I think he´ll bring out Edo-jiraiya when itachi comes and they will have their showdown!!!
Finally people will see just who is stronger between jiraiya and itachi!!!!"

Sure it's Kishi's manga and he can do whatever he wants but in the end there has to be some kind of reasoning behind everything. What is the purpose to reviving Jiraiya to fight Itachi? So fans can see who's stronger between them like you said? Naw.

 

[System001]

If sasuke gets that ill march to japan and declare war on Kishi

 

[~Yubel~]

Why are you insulting people out of the blue?
Please, watch your manners.

I concur that we should take everything that Kabuto and Tobi state with a grain of salt, but under these circumstances it would be a surprise if Jiraiya was actually zombified. Not the other way around.

Hell, even the Juubi could turn out to be a bloody unicorn who pooped rainbows, but we have no such proof of that, same as the revival of Jiraiya, so I advise you not to be so adamant on defending it.

As for your last statement about disproving your theory... You do know that the burden of proof lies with the claimant, don't you? :|

I was insulting people who were close-minded and didn´t even want to see what actually happens before just calling it stupid, besides, people have been insulting me throughout this thread including you so you´re in no position to judge me.
Why would that be a surprise?
He died, kabuto found dna, he didn´t want tobi to know about it and he´s saving him for personal protection.
No, are you stupid? The jiuubi couldn´t be a unicorn because we already know how it looks like and we know it was a monster that wrecked havoc on the world before getting stopped by the sage so we know enough about the jiuubi to make wild assumptions like you did, it only makes you look bad.

You should learn to read carefully, you´re so hellbent on making counter-argument to everything i write that you made a mistake, i said "It´s true that i can´t prove anything but you can´t disprove it either." if you don´t know what that means then there is no hope for you.

 

[99minutes]

Spoiler

1- Naruto's connection with the First Hokage will be soon reveal.

2- Tobi vs Naruto round 1 will end soon and Tobi will retreat. It will be more of a test of strength. They will both learn about each other’s powers.

3- Kabuto's true target is Naruto not Sasuke. He will explain why soon.

4- Tobi's interest in Naruto is more than just the Kyuubi. Guess what else he is after?

5- Jiraiya's re-appearance is around the corner and we will reveal a lot of juicy stuff. What we got from Kabuto about Jiraiya's body under water so he could not got it and took DNA from it was a lie, Jiraiya lost an arm agains Pain, so Kabuto found it and took it, he will explain this more detailed soon to Tobi

6- Shinobi HQ will soon be attack. Three guess who 666.

7- Naruto can somehow use all the five elements, some of Jiraiya, Minato, Kushina jutsu and it will be explain. This jutsu includes Uzumaki sealing jutsus as well.

8- Something about the Real Madara will soon be shown.

9- 3rd Raikage, 2nd Mizukage and Gaara's father were all bloodline limit user. It was a Magnetic Release

10- One of Sasuke's new powers is to slow down time in the real world. It will make him seem faster than his enemy. Unlike Tsukuyomi which happens in the mind, this one happens outside of the mind.

11- Another of Sasuke upgrade will be his Amaterasu shield.

12- Black half Zetsu was created with Madara's DNA. In other word, Zetsu is made up of both Hashirama's DNA (white Zetsu) and Madara's DNA (black Zetsu).

13- According to the reliable source, Zetsu is the main key for Tobi's Time/Space Jutsu. Just like Minato, Tobi needs something to guide him of his exit/entrance. In other word, the way Tobi knows where to find and appears to someone is through Zetsu. This information will soon be revealed.

Actually, after analyzing this, #8 and #9 are the only ones that are confirmed so far. The rest we'll have to wait and see.
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8- Something about the Real Madara will soon be shown.

Not exactly the greatest comprehension, but true. This "something" could mean the Rinnegan, Wood Release, or even the real Madara himself.

9- 3rd Raikage, 2nd Mizukage and Gaara's father were all bloodline limit user. It was a Magnetic Release

Researched this. It's also true. The 3rd Raikage had Lightning Release, and considering he passed down Black Lightning to Darui, he must also have had Storm Release, right?
The 2nd Mizukage had Yin Release and Water Release. The Fourth Kazekage (Gaara's father) had Magnetic Release[1].

Reference:
Chapter 546.

 

[~Yubel~]

Calm down buddy, I was only going by what you said in your theory in which I doubt.

"I think he´ll bring out Edo-jiraiya when itachi comes and they will have their showdown!!!
Finally people will see just who is stronger between jiraiya and itachi!!!!"

Sure it's Kishi's manga and he can do whatever he wants but in the end there has to be some kind of reasoning behind everything. What is the purpose to reviving Jiraiya to fight Itachi? So fans can see who's stronger between them like you said? Naw.

Isn´t everything in manga written to make a good story that pleases fans?

 

[The Sage of Desires]

What would be funny is that if all these spoilers are true and kishi knows they have been leaked and changes everything... but we would never know... he said in his interview that he does add and change things.

I wouldve thought that like jk rowling kishi has completed the manga and knows the ending but only he knows about this but he makes changes to weekly mangas as and when they are about to be released.

 

[99minutes]

Serious response to original post:
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Alright, MyWorld, I respect your opinion, but I wouldn't call it a fact or spoiler just yet. People can come up with great "spoilers" by analyzing just a few points from the latest chapters and predicting what will happen without getting too crazy.

So just give it some time and let's see.
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On another note, I see no reason why Sasuke needs another power-up, including time focus. If Sasuke can bring his Susan'o to full form, I think it'll be enough to counter most of Naruto's attacks.

So far, we haven't seen Sasuke's Susan'o fight in its final form. Itachi's, we've seen, and it was impressive and almost indestructible.

I keep saying, let's see what the EMS can do, before we start jumping to conclusions.
99's 2cents.

 

[~Yubel~]

What would be funny is that if all these spoilers are true and kishi knows they have been leaked and changes everything... but we would never know... he said in his interview that he does add and change things.

I wouldve thought that like jk rowling kishi has completed the manga and knows the ending but only he knows about this but he makes changes to weekly mangas as and when they are about to be released.

He said a long time ago that he knew about the ending and had the general plot planned out but i don´t think this is fake.
We´re all free to believe what we want to believe but no one has the right to bash on others opinion.

 

[99minutes]

What would be funny is that if all these spoilers are true and kishi knows they have been leaked and changes everything... but we would never know... he said in his interview that he does add and change things.

I wouldve thought that like jk rowling kishi has completed the manga and knows the ending but only he knows about this but he makes changes to weekly mangas as and when they are about to be released.

Kishi does have the ending planned out... well, sort of xD

He has also stated that he has a visual idea of the last chapter of the series, including the text and the story. However, he notes that it may take a long time to end the series since "there are still so many things that need to be resolved".

—Wikpedia, NARUTO​

And how do you know he makes changes at the last minute? o.o

 

[Kirin Rei]

I was insulting people who were close-minded and didn´t even want to see what actually happens before just calling it stupid, besides, people have been insulting me throughout this thread including you so you´re in no position to judge me.
Why would that be a surprise?
He died, kabuto found dna, he didn´t want tobi to know about it and he´s saving him for personal protection.
No, are you stupid? The jiuubi couldn´t be a unicorn because we already know how it looks like and we know it was a monster that wrecked havoc on the world before getting stopped by the sage so we know enough about the jiuubi to make wild assumptions like you did, it only makes you look bad.

You should learn to read carefully, you´re so hellbent on making counter-argument to everything i write that you made a mistake, i said "It´s true that i can´t prove anything but you can´t disprove it either." if you don´t know what that means then there is no hope for you.

My only two posts on this topic have been these:

Well, these so called predictions have been around for quite some time.

Plus, this isn't the first time a similar thread has been created. That might be the reason for many of us not being shocked. :|

Here, I explained why people were not surprised by this.

Just let it go for your own sanity's sake.
You could have got your point across to a teaspoon by now. :|

And here, I was talking to another poster, because clearly you're not someone who can be reasoned with.

I'll try again...

Jiraiya being revived would be a surprise, because Kabuto stated that he hadn't acquired his DNA.
It's a possibility that he was lying, but it would still be a surprise.

Narutobase is in the dire need of a sarcasm indicator.

The only instance we've seen the silhouette of the Juubi has been when Tobi was referring to it. Tobi is known to lie too, is my point getting across?

I'm definietly not saying that the Juubi never existed, I just put this forth as an example.

You should learn to read carefully, you´re so hellbent on making counter-argument to everything i write that you made a mistake, i said "It´s true that i can´t prove anything but you can´t disprove it either." if you don´t know what that means then there is no hope for you.

Have you got no idea what burden of proof means?

I'll simplify it:
The burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim.
Let's say I claim that there is a little dragon in my closet, but you can't hear it, you can't see it nor can you feel it. But it's there.
I can't ask you to disprove it's existance. First, I have to put forth evidence, not just claim it.

Just like your claim about Jiraiya being revived. Before you ask for people to debunk it, you must come forth with cold hard evidence to support your claim. Not with assumptions like; Kabuto is a bad guy, so he must be lying.

Just google it. :|

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

My only two posts on this topic have been these:


Here, I explained why people were not surprised by this.

And here, I was talking to another poster, because clearly you're not someone who can be reasoned with.

I'll try again...

Jiraiya being revived would be a surprise, because Kabuto stated that he hadn't acquired his DNA.
It's a possibility that he was lying, but it would still be a surprise.

Narutobase is in the dire need of a sarcasm indicator.

The only instance we've seen the silhouette of the Juubi has been when Tobi was referring to it. Tobi is known to lie too, is my point getting across?

I'm definietly not saying that the Juubi never existed, I just put this forth as an example.


Have you got no idea what burden of proof means?

I'll simplify it:
The burden of proof lies with the one who makes the claim.
Let's say I claim that there is a little dragon in my closet, but you can't hear it, you can't see it nor can you feel it. But it's there.
I can't ask you to disprove it's existance. First, I have to put forth evidence, not just claim it.

Just like your claim about Jiraiya being revived. Before you ask for people to debunk it, you must come forth with cold hard evidence to support your claim. Not with assumptions like; Kabuto is a bad guy, so he must be lying.

Just google it. :|

u don't have to take him seriously rei, he don't even understand what he's talking about, and i bet he won't even understand ur post U_U

 

[~Yubel~]

Serious response to original post:
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Alright, MyWorld, I respect your opinion, but I wouldn't call it a fact or spoiler just yet. People can come up with great "spoilers" by analyzing just a few points from the latest chapters and predicting what will happen without getting too crazy.

So just give it some time and let's see.
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On another note, I see no reason why Sasuke needs another power-up, including time focus. If Sasuke can bring his Susan'o to full form, I think it'll be enough to counter most of Naruto's attacks.

So far, we haven't seen Sasuke's Susan'o fight in its final form. Itachi's, we've seen, and it was impressive and almost indestructible.

I keep saying, let's see what the EMS can do, before we start jumping to conclusions.
99's 2cents.

I already said that this wasn´t a fact as it wasn´t confirmed.
With that said, this is some crazy info and whether or not it´s true, it´s still very interesting to read and if it happens then it´ll be even crazier but if it doesn´t then it is what it is, no one has anything to lose.

Of course sasuke would need this powerup to slow down time, narutos speed is out of this world and there is no way sasuke can compete with that.
This will even the playing field.
I don´t think his susanoo will be enough to defend against a tailed beast bomb by naruto.

Yes, let´s see what ems can do although IMO, we´ve already have from madara, if madara didn´t rinnegan then he would be dead, if his ems didn´t have anything to get him out of that situation then whatever ems has, i don´t think it´s anything impressive nor do i think it´s anything different then what itachi and sasuke have been doing with tuskuyomi,amaterasu and susanoo without side-effect.

With this said, only time will tell and i will patiently wait untill we see something new, untill then, i won´t say what is right or wrong and i won´t jump to conlusions.

Thanks for getting serious for once.

 

[99minutes]

1. I already said that this wasn´t a fact as it wasn´t confirmed.
2.With that said, this is some crazy info and whether or not it´s true, it´s still very interesting to read and if it happens then it´ll be even crazier but if it doesn´t then it is what it is, no one has anything to lose.

3.Of course sasuke would need this powerup to slow down time, narutos speed is out of this world and there is no way sasuke can compete with that.
This will even the playing field.
I don´t think his susanoo will be enough to defend against a tailed beast bomb by naruto.

4.Yes, let´s see what ems can do although IMO, we´ve already have from madara, if madara didn´t rinnegan then he would be dead, if his ems didn´t have anything to get him out of that situation then whatever ems has, i don´t think it´s anything impressive nor do i think it´s anything different then what itachi and sasuke have been doing with tuskuyomi,amaterasu and susanoo without side-effect.

With this said, only time will tell and i will patiently wait untill we see something new, untill then, i won´t say what is right or wrong and i won´t jump to conlusions.

5.Thanks for getting serious for once.

I numbered the points, to make them easier to reply too =DD
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1. You're saying this a spoiler. Spoilers are confirmed pieces of information. In other words, they're facts. But it's not a spoiler, it's more of a prediction :/

2. If it doesn't happen, then the people who posted this will look like idiots. Not trying to sound mean, but it's true. There will be a lot of "I told you so's" or "See, it didn't happen" coming their way. But vice versa, too xD

3. Speed is not the only thing, though. Sasuke may not have to keep up with it. If Naruto's going to use TBB or go into Sage Mode, speed from feet doesn't matter nor does it contribute. Those moves will take time to power up. Besides, I see Naruto using his speed to dodge Amaterasu only.

4. IMO, Kishi didn't show us what Madara's EMS could do because he was saving it for Sasuke's showtime. I could be wrong and I probably am, but my point remains: we need to wait and see what the EMS can do.

During the Sasuke vs Itachi battle, there was too much hype over the EMS. Kishi better have something good in store :|

5. LOL I rarely get serious but when I do, I make it worthwhile xD

Nice debating, let's keep it going =DD

 

[~Yubel~]

And here, I was talking to another poster, because clearly you're not someone who can be reasoned with.
It's a possibility that he was lying, but it would still be a surprise.
Tobi is known to lie too, is my point getting across?|

Yeah, you were talking to another poster but you were talking about me and unless you lack intelligence, you did insult me.

So let me get this straight, you´re saying kabuto lying about jiraiya would be surprising yet tobi lying about jiuubi wouldn´t?

What tobi said about the jiuubi is much more important to the plot then jiraiya and it´s not something you would lie about or have a reason for lying.
Kabuto on the other hand couldn´t tell tobi "oh btw, i have a sannin but i won´t use him" so he let tobi think he couldn´t get his dna.

So you´re saying there is the possibility of tobi painting a false picture of the jiuubi? Well, if the jiuubis nine parts is any indicator, you would definitely know the jiuubi was a raging monster.

Tobi had no reason to lie, kabuto had.
Kabuto is much more of a snake then tobi is and i mean it in every sense of the word.

You said the burden of proof lies with the one who presented it, i already said that this wasn´t fact but i´m sure that person has his ways.

 

[Kirin Rei]

u don't have to take him seriously rei, he don't even understand what he's talking about, and i bet he won't even understand ur post U_U

And, you were right! :izuna:

Haha, I know, I just don't have anything better to do at the moment. Business is down due to the weather and I'm just sitting like a duck. <3

 

[99minutes]

And, you were right! :izuna:

Haha, I know, I just don't have anything better to do at the moment. Business is down due to the weather and I'm just sitting like a duck. <3

What I don't understand is, idiots constantly come up with crap like "this guy's cousin lives in Japan and revealed these spoilers", or "my uncle works with <mangaka> and he confirmed these spoilers!", and yet other, even bigger idiots believe them >_>

Even if someone does work with Kishimoto or any mangaka, I don't think they're allowed to reveal what's going to happen next. They may even have to sign contracts, which sounds highly likely. They may be able to give hints, but never real details :/

It's not just with Naruto. This happens with a lot of mangas. It's getting annoying now.

 

[Honord Sage]

No, you think a snake like kabuto would reveal "oh, btw i have a sannin which i´m saving for the right time".
It profits kabuto, why waste jiraiya in the war, have him as a protection if anyone ever comes to his location.
It would be very cool to see jiraiya come back, he lost an arm remember, i´m sure kabuto could find dna in that arm to revive him.

But He would let the world know He has Madara, think man, think Madara is bigger news than Jiraiya.