How's nagato gonna fight perfect susanoo?

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Have Gedo Mazo rumble with Perfect Susanoo whilst he preps Chibaku Tensei. The sword slashes won't even kill him if he's airborne - the best they'll do is blow him backwards (where the only damage he'll receive is slamming into a mountain or the like). Using Shinra Tensei will also allow Nagato to lessen the force which acts upon him. I'll simply end with this. The Rinnegan is the ultimate dojutsu in the manga. Rikudo Sennin's power. It can go either way, but who's really the favourite here? If you think the strongest jutsu of the Sharingan > the strongest jutsu of the Rinnegan then you need to re-read chapters 1 through to 606.

What if the Rinnegans strongest ability is to revive the dead? Then the Rinnegans strongest ability overcomes the Sharingans strongest ability in fight?
 

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Since it is a jutsus that isn't genjutsu he absorbs it with the Preta Path. His Shinra tensei was strong enough to destroy a village as well as push away three giant toads. He could also trap it via chibaku tensei. Those are the three basic counters he has.

If any of them Preta path has an absolute chance for success as shinra tensei might not work (6 tailed kyubi said eff thatand he might be able to cut out of chibaku tensei.)
 

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What if the Rinnegans strongest ability is to revive the dead? Then the Rinnegans strongest ability overcomes the Sharingans strongest ability in fight?

But it isn't.
 

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Nagato might not even have to deal with Madara's Perfect Susanoo seeing how Madara likes toy with his opponents.

But uh....if Nagato has to fight it, he's screwed I think. I'd love to see what he would try to deal with it.
 

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What if the Rinnegans strongest ability is to revive the dead? Then the Rinnegans strongest ability overcomes the Sharingans strongest ability in fight?

It reduced an entire village to rubble with one jutsu.
 

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But it isn't.
It is. The Rinnegan is the reincarnation eye which stays between life and death, reviving the dead is the Rinnegans strongest ability.
It reduced an entire village to rubble with one jutsu.
The perfect Susanoo crushed a meteorite and caused a shock wave which devastated the landscape by stretching over it, cut a distant mountain range and continued to travel, with a single swing of one of Susanoos both swords. Once Deva used his Shinra Tensei, Nagato shortened his life span and Deva wasn't available for a long period because of the interval. Susanoo however doesn't have any cooldown and can simply go on rampage.
 

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It is. The Rinnegan is the reincarnation eye which stays between life and death, reviving the dead is the Rinnegans strongest ability.

The perfect Susanoo crushed a meteorite and caused a shock wave which devastated the landscape by stretching over it, cut a distant mountain range and continued to travel, with a single swing of one of Susanoos both swords. Once Deva used his Shinra Tensei, Nagato shortened his life span and Deva wasn't available for a long period because of the interval. Susanoo however doesn't have any cooldown and can simply go on rampage.

Damn right it would shorten his life, considering Nagato used such a technique from a remote location whilst being crippled. Do you know how large Konoha actually is? Perfect Susanoo's current sword feat isn't comparable.
 

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Damn right it would shorten his life, considering Nagato used such a technique from a remote location whilst being crippled. Do you know how large Konoha actually is? Perfect Susanoo's current sword feat isn't comparable.

Doesn't matter. He focused all of his power into one body before releasing it. Being crippled doesn't mean anything, Pain replaced his mobility. Or are you one of those who are saying, Nagatos Chakra level was near cero before he absorbed Hachibis Chakra? If people which were been inside of Katsuyu survived, Madara in his perfect Susanoo will tank it easily.
 

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Doesn't matter. He focused all of his power into one body before releasing it. Being crippled doesn't mean anything, Pain replaced his mobility. Or are you one of those who are saying, Nagatos Chakra level was near cero before he absorbed Hachibis Chakra?

IIRC, he wasted chakra fighting individual shinobi in Konoha prior to using the technique. So he wasn't even at full power when Chou Shinra Tensei was used. He also looked a tad lifeless to me when he was hooked up to that machine, different to someone who would be fighting fresh in their own body. With regards to Edo Nagato's chakra level, no, i'm not in agreement with that notion, but the manga has been unclear in explaining this. How can absorbing the Hachibi's chakra rejuvenate Nagato if he's already in possession of an unlimited amount of chakra (due to Edo perks)?
 
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IIRC, he wasted chakra fighting individual shinobi in Konoha prior to using the technique. So he wasn't even at full power when Chou Shinra Tensei was used. He also looked a tad lifeless to me when he was hooked up to that machine, different to someone who would be fighting fresh in their own body. With regards to Edo Nagato's chakra level, no, i'm not agreement with that notion, but the manga has been unclear in explaining this? How can absorbing the Hachibi's chakra rejuvenate Nagato if he's already in possession of an unlimited amount of chakra (due to Edo perks)?

Nagato fought konoha, destroyed it, fought Naruto, used Chibaku Tensei and revived the dead in Konoha. His stamina was great. His physical condition didn't restrict his Chakra level. After absorbing Hachibis Chakra, his body just got regenerated, it was like a power thrust from a foreign source. It is also known that Naruto is regenerating his body with a bit of Kuramas Chakra. And I think that it's clear that Nagato is not going to put out his Chou Shinra Tensei at the very beginning of the fight, he will keep a good fight techniques which will may exhaust him and put out his strongest Shinra Tensei if needed. Yeah, Nagato fought the whole Konoha but actually fought fodders, except of Kakashi. Asura Path crushed a few buildings, such as the summons, Ningendou pulled out two, three souls, and so on.

Just take a look at . Those elongated rocks in the surroundings are huge and comparable with houses of Konoha. Now take a look at picture. On the left part of the first panel you can see a large area with those rocks which are spreading across the whole area but look actually small, though being comparable with houses. So we can actually compare this area with a village; means Konohas size isn't considerably larger. And yet we see Susanoo destroying a meteorite first, before causing a shock wave which is devastating a distance with the size of the area I showed you and is even continuing to travel after it cut several mountains. I'm talking about a single swing of a sword Susanoo was holding in just one hand, not imaginable how terribly the Kages would have been crushed when Susanoo was about to swing its sword by holding it with both hands. A single swing of Susanoos sword is indeed comparable with Nagatos strongest attack. Or do you think that Nagatos strongest Shinra Tensei would be able to crush Madaras huge meteorite in pieces,devastate a distance comparable with a village and destroy a distant mountain range after? I highly doubt it, even if Nagato would be healthy.
 
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nagato stands no chance against it but fanboys will say otherwise.
 

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Just take a look at . Those elongated rocks in the surroundings are huge and comparable with houses of Konoha. Now take a look at picture. On the left part of the first panel you can see a large area with those rocks which are spreading across the whole area but look actually small, though being comparable with houses.

The pillars on the kages' location don't have the same size as the ones in Naruto's location.
Look and you will understand.

They don't compare to .
 

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Nagato fought konoha, destroyed it, fought Naruto, used Chibaku Tensei and revived the dead in Konoha. His stamina was great. His physical condition didn't restrict his Chakra level. After absorbing Hachibis Chakra, his body just got regenerated, it was like a power thrust from a foreign source. It is also known that Naruto is regenerating his body with a bit of Kuramas Chakra. And I think that it's clear that Nagato is not going to put out his Chou Shinra Tensei at the very beginning of the fight, he will keep a good fight techniques which will may exhaust him and put out his strongest Shinra Tensei if needed. Yeah, Nagato fought the whole Konoha but actually fought fodders, except of Kakashi. Asura Path crushed a few buildings, such as the summons, Ningendou pulled out two, three souls, and so on.

Just take a look at . Those elongated rocks in the surroundings are huge and comparable with houses of Konoha. Now take a look at picture. On the left part of the first panel you can see a large area with those rocks which are spreading across the whole area but look actually small, though being comparable with houses. So we can actually compare this area with a village; means Konohas size isn't considerably larger. And yet we see Susanoo destroying a meteorite first, before causing a shock wave which is devastating a distance with the size of the area I showed you and is even continuing to travel after it cut several mountains. I'm talking about a single swing of a sword Susanoo was holding in just one hand, not considerable how terribly the Kages would have been crushed when Susanoo was about to swing its sword by holding it with both hands. A single swing of Susanoos sword is indeed comparable with Nagatos strongest attack. Or do you think that Nagatos strongest Shinra Tensei would be able to crush Madaras huge meteorite in pieces,devastate a distance comparable with a village and destroy a distant mountain range after? I highly doubt it, even if Nagato would be healthy.

His stamina was great. It would've seemed even better had he been facing one opponent as opposed to many. And you may've misunderstood me. It's not merely about his physical condition. It's about him having to transfer his chakra to another source (a realm of Pain) in order to perform the simplest of techniques. Chakra can be lost in transmission. Are the black rods one hundred percent efficient? Doubtful. Having to control 6 separate bodies, simultaneously, is a disadvantage in my opinion (especially if it involves the transference of chakra through a distance potentially spanning miles). And I never explicitly claimed Nagato would resort to using Chou Shinra Tensei against Madara right off the bat during the fight; it was only mentioned to indicate which person/jutsu has the greater destructive feats. It's not Perfect Susanoo, which is why I don't understand why there's such a hullabaloo over Perfect Susanoo's one sword slash when the damage it caused is less than that which was caused by Chou Shinra Tensei (which wasn't used by someone at full power, which wasn't [potentially] boosted by Edo perks such as limitless chakra or lack of fatigue, which was used via a proxy [Tendo] etc).

But Perfect Susanoo's attacks have only been shown to be linear. It doesn't have as a large an like CST, which would affect a large area. It just doesn't. It would need to incorporate multiple slashes into it's offensive flurry just to inflict the same amount of overall damage. There's nothing which even indicates how long Madara can keep up Perfect Susanoo or how many slashes it can consecutively produce. That's why i'm saying it needs more feats. And yeah, the meteors would become dust before Chou Shinra Tensei. Remember the picture I showed you regarding how incomparably Perfect Susanoo is to a complete (I say complete when infact it was used by a tired Tendo who had fodderized an entire village beforehand) Chibaku Tensei? The Rinnegan really is just superior to the Sharingan; it's reflected through hype, feats and manga portrayal.
 

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I don't think that Madara had problems with his stamina back then, his Chakra was even for an Uchiha very strong, and he fought Hashirama in a battle where the maps had to be changed to a large extent and a valley was created. How is Nagato going to stop the perfect Susanoo, which is called destruction incarnate, is fast, mobile and grants its user a perfect defense and incredible offense? If Susanoo jumps in the air and swing its sword with both hands under its feet, he will also cause a shock wave which will crush the entry landscape in a 360 degree, without getting any cooldown which will make Susanoo unable to use it power again.

Chibaku Tensei is juger than all the mountains in the surroundings, but yet this was its state when it was finished. If Madaras perfect Susanoo will going to attack the Chibaku Tensei in its initial stage with all powers it have, it will most likely destroy it.

A TBB destroys a mountain, the Rasenshuriken covers a small areal and the Yasaka no Magatama isn't causing widespread damage and together they destroyed Chibaku Tensei in its earlier stage. If one sword of Susanoo can crush a meteorite and cut a distant mountain range while devastating a large area, with both swords Susanoo would definitely have the power to counter Chibaku Tensei.

An interesting thing is, that Madara, who possesses the Rinnegan, knows the Doujutsus and Rikudo Sennins powers (and most likely Jutsus) called the perfect Susanoo his ultimately and almighty strength where nothing can be compared with.
 
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