[Discussion] How Would You Have Written Super???

[JStar King]

I'm only asking this because I see that many people have a problem with this series. I am one of those people. So here's my question....How would you write it if Toriyama gave you permission to? He'll let you scrap the series and start over with rights to the animation as well. That way you can make sure the anime doesn't turn out like this:

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I've been thinking about this topic for a long time since I dropped the series. Many still review it, but man. DBZ was better than this. So give your opinions. What would you do different?

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[Vanto]

I don't think good writing will save the series from its animation. Time pressure and money isn't something you can really fix with clever dialogue and good world building

If it happens though, I shall bring DBZ to Madhouse, I think the story will stay the same but I'll have moments where other people than Goku or Vegeta shine, like Gotenks defeating Tagoma, no Ginyu, Frieza mentioning that he charged the ring with his Golden's form energy, maybe have a moment where Frieza try to stop Gohan from sending the ki message to Goku and everyone jumps in the action and blast him, Cell-style.

 

[The Amazing Spider Man]

With Trunks being my fav this gif makes me cringe a bit xD

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OT: First of all. I would have gave it a bigger budget. Second, I wouldn't have resurrected Frieza during the second act. Would have strictly made it a film feature.

 

[JStar King]

I don't think good writing will save the series from its animation. Time pressure and money isn't something you can really fix with clever dialogue and good world building

True, so why not move the series to another studio who can get the job done like Studio Madhouse. Look at HunterxHunter, OPM, and Highlander.

With Trunks being my fav this gif makes me cringe a bit xD

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OT: First of all. I would have gave it a bigger budget. Second, I wouldn't have resurrected Frieza during the second act. Would have strictly made it a film feature.

That's true too, but SSJ God still needed to be explained, especially since Goku and Vegeta were able to excel the transformation. I just thought that it was done poorly and could've used better management and more explaining.

 

[Melanin]

I would've done a thorough saga that surrounded planet Vageta.

 

[Vanto]

Ho darn Venom, I suggested giving the anime to Madhouse too, lol.

 

[JStar King]

Ho darn Venom, I suggested giving the anime to Madhouse too, lol.

Yeah, my bad. I was rushing. Either Madhouse or Bones would've been better.

 

[FreakensteinAG]

1. Euphonium Arc: Insane Namekian forces other Namekians to undergo the forbidden fusion technique and gains unbelievable power, Piccolo takes it upon himself to stop him. Euphonium too strong, forces Piccolo to fuse with the elder, gaining enough power to destroy him.

2. 6th Universe Yardrat Arc: In the 7th Universe where Goku lives, the Yardrats are a peaceful, yet resourceful people who help Goku get back home and teach him the incredibly useful Instant Transmission technique. In the 7th Universe, the Yardrats get word of Goku and Vegeta's interference with their God of Destruction and their entire army uses Instant Transmission to enslave the Earth.

 

[demon of the leaf]

I have seen super and it is better animation then the original assuming the original was better which was made in the late 80s to through 2005 would be a pompus assumption

 

[Vanto]

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Ignore the spanish, lol.

DBS can have good animation, and DBZ itself certainly had bad animations itself, but having such drawings in 2016, and for such a huge series ? Weird.

Although animator have a lot of pressure on them.

 

[JStar King]

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Ignore the spanish, lol.

DBS can have good animation, and DBZ itself certainly had bad animations itself, but having such drawings in 2016, and for such a huge series ? Weird.

Although animator have a lot of pressure on them.

I heard about that. It's strange tho. I heard animators barely get paid. That sucks. But what would you do story wise? Just tell me how would have done it when it comes to the writing?

 

[Urda]

I haven't seen it, but I would give it one season with good animation and a good build story-line that focus on all the characters. I would end as soon as possible though instead of dragging it through the mud. Right now, I think they are doing too much from what I hear.

 

[Vanto]

I heard about that. It's strange tho. I heard animators barely get paid. That sucks. But what would you do story wise? Just tell me how would have done it when it comes to the writing?

Explain how Vegeta became a god, and replace it with one of the fillers episode. Its padding, sure, but fans always wanted to see an explanation, we could get some good world building in by having Whis explain the ways to get god ki, some solo time from Vegeta, without Goku or anything to get in the way, and we'll get over a pretty big ass pull.

Following that, maybe shows some of Frieza's, or at least, more than "shoot a random guy multiple time"s".

 

[Jokule67]

Bring in more japanese lore into the mix and martial arts techniques.

 

[Jack Spicer]

I wouldn't have. Kept DBZ a movie thing. Didn't need another series, but if it did, don't give it the weird movie tie in/time frame deal.

 

[EZQ]

I'd hate to be the writer because that way i can't be surprised.

I LOVE how DBS is turning out, but i hate the animation... Anyways, to answer your question:

-I'd have retaken just after revival of Frieza

-Goku and Vegeta continue to train, and they meet the god of destruction of the first universe, called Krono

-Krono is mad because Beerus is turning out to be good, and is not accomplishing his job

-1st and 7th universe in WAR

-Roshi trains Piccolo and the humans and teachs them how to learn tactics that let them fight opponents out of their league (like piccolo against Frost). They train for 100 years in a time capsule (they don't grow old because whis has rejuvenating water)

The war starts and well... as always, Z warriors win, but this time Goku doesn't do everything by himself.

 

[Forbidden Tale]

Not sure how would I really writte DBS from the point of DBZ's end. Tho, I know how I would (re)writte from Buu arc.

1. I would left new generation (Gohan and Gotenks) take care of Buu, just like Goku intendent.
2. Left Goku stay dead and train in the Other world, as well as Vegeta (who died just like in the manga, and I would make him go to the heaven, he atone for his sins fighting with Galactic Army, Androids and Majin Buu).

So DBS now.

1. Beerus arrival, interested in SSG, goes to fight with SSJ3 Goku, wins easily, go to the Earth to find Prince Vegeta (Vegeta is dead, got his day on the earth, for Bulma's birthday). Story goes same way (+ Vegeta goes SSJ3, which he achived in Other World), but instead of Goku coming back to the Earth, Gohan would fight against Beerus. Gohan became SSG and same scenario happen as in the original manga.
2. How did Gohan achive SSG? First I would change, way of achiving SSG. It was stated that way of achiving is written in some Namekian book, and with Namekians one more character would know about it - Old Kai. The way is simple to surpass previous three states of Super Saiyan as well as surpassing SSJ3's main flaw - time limit. With that knowledge Old Kai created special Mystical technique for drawing full potential of everyone (not only Saiyans), but that method is not effective like original, and gives lesser increase. So, basicually Gohan was partial SSG against Buu, with further training (in my version he woudln't stop) he would achive full SSG during the time of Beerus arival.
3. Next, is Frieza's arrival, except in my version it wouldn't really be a Frieza. Well, Frieza having such big potential is pretty huge plot hole, because of numeros reasons:
- Frieza not training and being born as that strong is not possible considering he used to eat a dust from his parent (King Cold) as stated in the Namek arc, and it was stated that Frieza is stronger than his father, which mean that he surpassed him in some period, which mean that he did train.
- It was also stated that Frieza lost to Beerus once, badly. If he did lost to him, why didn't he train then to beat him, just like he did train to fight Goku?
- And Sorbet and others coming to Earth, searching for DBs and still Gohan, Piccolo, Tien and others didn't do anything to stop them (they felt their power)? Why?
No, no matther how I like Frieza as a villain, he wouldn't be here.
But,..
3. His son would be present there.

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. He was left on unnamed planet to train and one day sucess his father and grandfather (as Frieza was mutant and stronger than numeros time more powerful than other members of his family, same would be with Kuriza). When he heard his family was defeated by Saiyans, he decided to train to one day destroy them. With him

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trained as well and they have become stronger than original Ginyuu force. And in the arc enemy would still be Sorbet, Tagoma, Shisami and Guarana.
4. On the good side of the universe, Gohan left to Whis in order to train, achiving SSGSS, in Other World Goku and Vegeta went to Old Kai in order to achive SSG and on the Earth youngsters train.
5. Fight begins on Earth, and Krillin, Yamcha, Tien, Chiaotzu and Piccolo got their chances against Galactic army - new Ginyuu force and Sorbet's elite. They win against them, but once Kuriza steps in they are defeated without much effort, Gohan arrives and fight with Kuriza (the scenario similar to what happened in Vegeta/Goku vs Frieza).

Next arc.

1. Would make Champa more serious, he gives vibe of one lame character and personality.
2. Tournament.
3. Hit, Froze and Cabba are present, but Cabba still has his tail. Botamo and Maggetta are kind of lame designed characters so I would likely change them.
4. In Beerus team there is no Monaka, pretty sure it's too late to introduce someone so strong from U6, not to mention it was numeros time stated that Saiyans are strongest race. In Beerus team, there will be Gohan, Buu, Piccolo and not really sure should other two be new generation - Goten and Trunks, or older generation Goku and Vegeta. By the time of the tournament, Goku and Vegeta would achive SSG and Goten and Trunks would achive SSJ3.

 

[DominiqueX]

I wouldn't have. Kept DBZ a movie thing. Didn't need another series, but if it did, don't give it the weird movie tie in/time frame deal.

Same.

I would've stayed with high-quality movies instead of a shitty-quality anime series.
Then I would've changed the fact that Goku had red hair in his first god form in "Battle of Gods". I would have given him a blue flame-like aura already, but with normal black hair and without the silly ritual. Videl as a part of it? Hilariously silly.

I also would've changed the latest movie "Revival of Frieza".
Frieza trains wayyyy more than a couple of months and Vegeta is the one who kills him. I wouldn't change the fight itself, it was short and on-point. DB Super ruined it, like everything before.

The next movie would take place multiple years after "Revival of Frieza" and its story would be about the search for a new God of Destruction, because Beerus wants to step down to have more time for food or something. Goku and Vegeta don't want this "job", but after Goku fought with Uub in the tournament at the end of DBZ, he decides to make him the new God of Destruction and Vegeta is okay with that. Both train him and Uub eventually becomes the new GoD as he reaches the age that he was in DB GT.

The final movie would be about the concept of GT's shadow dragons. You know, villains that appear to be the consequence of overusing the dragonballs. But not only on Earth and Namek, but in the entire universe. Uub, Vegeta and Goku then have to save the universe. Yay.

 

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