How would you categorize Lee & Sakura (prodigies or geniuses)?

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Yeah but I was quoting Kishimoto and he said that she's not from a ninja clan = civilian family = ordinary family! Thats what I said!

There are plenty of ninja in this manga who are not from a clan. It does not mean they are a ordinary ninja. It just means there potiential will not be godly. Sakura not being from a clan does not make her a odinary ninja. She was talented enough to be a far better ninja than she became. There is no point of hyping something that was never there in the first place.
 

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i was done reading when you mentioned Lee and ninjutsu... :lmao:

Anyways, they should've married each other. Their baby would've been OP af.

seriously with her Byakugou and Lee's gate techs, he/she'd be unstoppable.
 

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She is not a odinary girl. She is a talented girl. Back in part 1 she was said to be gifted in chakara control. She was ahead of Naruto and Sasuke in the tree climbing training. Her test scores were also very good. She was known to being book smart early on.

Just proved RastaRasta's point, medical jutsu requires high level of chakra control which she always had because it was natural to her from an early age.

Sakura is a prodigy in medical jutsu because she's the only one to reproduce the 5th Hokage's feat whilst she was just a teenager.
 

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Just proved RastaRasta's point, medical jutsu requires high level of chakra control which she always had because it was natural to her from an early age.

Sakura is a prodigy in medical jutsu because she's the only one to reproduce the 5th Hokage's feat whilst she was just a teenager.

This!
 

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I wouldn't call Sakura a genius. Is there a scan of someone referring to her as such?

Gotta read the thread mate, I asked: WHAT WOULD YOU CATEGORIZE THEM AS, no what that the manga has depicted.

Makes sense?

I feel like Tsunade would have, if Sakura was really that good. Yeah, they're impressed by her ability to attain Byakagou, but they never call it prodigious or genius.

No the never used the word exactly but she were described many times as such, given a discription that correlates and has medical feats that can be used to debate in her favor.

She's very smart, and she's very talented as a medical-nin, but she has yet to invent her own jutsus or improve upon them.

The Dellicate Illness Extraction Technique is branded has her own method of removing poison from the human body and that Justus within its self if the epitome of chakra control, concentration and skill.

He worked hard to master the Gate releases that he can release, but we don't actually know how impossible that is. Most ninja don't do it because of the costs of doing so, and they have other options that are less risky and overspecialized. And similarly, I don't think he's improved upon the 8 Gates or anything besides doing what Gai taught him.

Lee technique is polished and refined and has reached heights that does in fact take immense amounts of kill and but I'll give you leeway here. Instead of saying genius or prodigy how about master?

i like both of these characters, I'm not hating, but I think terms like prodigy and genius aren't for them.

I respectfully disagree with you.

Kind of invalidates their hard work, even. They got to that skill level solely because they worked hard, not because they were particularly gifted (although Sakura was always book-smart).

You do understand that a person can become a genius right lol?

When your born, you not birth with extensive knowlage about any aspects of the world lol, you learn them and depending on the persons intellect and commitment they reach the adjective of genius.

What did she pioneer? She can perform the things Tsunade pioneered better than Tsunade can, but I wouldn't call her a pioneer.

Kishi's words not mine..
 

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Just proved RastaRasta's point, medical jutsu requires high level of chakra control which she always had because it was natural to her from an early age.

Sakura is a prodigy in medical jutsu because she's the only one to reproduce the 5th Hokage's feat whilst she was just a teenager.

There aren't many numbers to support your point. Only one attempted and failed others never gave it a try. The medicial ninja by them selves weren't made some high tier positions. They were basically made as a support.
 

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Lee is a work horse but he is no genius, he is more prodigy cause of his physical training that looks almost impossible for an average ninja and plus he is not so "smart"... that will double/triple the level of his training. He has not surpassed his sensei but he has the level to beat Kisame.

Sakura, she is indeed smart in the begining, but she concentrated too much into Sasuke to the point that she was just loafing around and hope for him to come back. Even in the end, she has not surpassed her teacher. To label her amongst genius or prodigy is same as trying to insult the real one.
 

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Gotta read the thread mate, I asked: WHAT WOULD YOU CATEGORIZE THEM AS, no what that the manga has depicted.

You offered the choices of Prodigy or Genius. I assumed you meant to pick one.

The Dellicate Illness Extraction Technique is branded has her own method of removing poison from the human body and that Justus within its self if the epitome of chakra control, concentration and skill.

Didn't know this, fair enough.

You do understand that a person can become a genius right lol?

When your born, you not birth with extensive knowlage about any aspects of the world lol, you learn them and depending on the persons intellect and commitment they reach the adjective of genius.

Fair enough. If you're defining genius as this, then sure, they're geniuses.
 

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Aren't you also being biased and a hypocrite?

OT:
Lee=Prodigy
Reason is because he worked hard and picked up skills that would normally take years in a month or two plus he was a taijutsu master at age 14.

Sakura=Failure/Crybaby
Reason is because all she did was think she was the best but in reality she was a terrible failure at everything all she could do was stand their and gasp like Kigome from Inuyasha. When she got older plot buffed her and due to Naruto helping her out indirectly she was able to learn something from the 5th. Bringing me to another point all she could do at the same age Lee mastered Taijutsu and 5/8 of the celestial gates all Sakura could do was control her chakra well. Which is natural considering her genjutsu type chakra nature.

Sakura's a failure? Yet she managed to keep Naruto alive using medical ninjutsu!

She healed the entire alliance using medical ninjutsu.

Mastered medical ninjutsu..

Countered Sasori's poison using medical ninjutsu.

Became the strongest user of medical ninjutsu.

Your a troll guy

You offered the choices of Prodigy or Genius. I assumed you meant to pick one.



Didn't know this, fair enough.



Fair enough. If you're defining genius as this, then sure, they're geniuses.

But I get what you mean, I don't see Sakura as a prodigy nor do I see Lee in that manner, their suppose to be the reflection of human weakness so that's not in the cards for them.
 

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Lee is a work horse but he is no genius, he is more prodigy cause of his physical training that looks almost impossible for an average ninja and plus he is not so "smart"... that will double/triple the level of his training. He has not surpassed his sensei but he has the level to beat Kisame.

Sakura, she is indeed smart in the begining, but she concentrated too much into Sasuke to the point that she was just loafing around and hope for him to come back.

Loafing????

Lol you win...................
 

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Sakura's a failure? Yet she managed to keep Naruto alive using medical ninjutsu!

She healed the entire alliance using medical ninjutsu.

Mastered medical ninjutsu..

Countered Sasori's poison using medical ninjutsu.

Became the strongest user of medical ninjutsu.

Your a troll guy



But I get what you mean, I don't see Sakura as a prodigy nor do I see Lee in that manner, their suppose to be the reflection of human weakness so that's not in the cards for them.

Kabuto is still stronger than her, Tsunade is still stronger than her, even Naruto is stronger than her in medic.
She didnt counter Sasori poison on the battle field by her self and she has a great help from Chiyo. Just because of fodder sand medic failed doesnt mean she is genius, all she did was reading what fodder sand medic has already analyzed.
 

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Blessed becuase of the plot? Elaborate..

Sakura was trained by Tsunade but why she shows no effort imo i mean everything she do is for Sasuke and i guess Naruto is the same way but with Sakura im on thw whole her being useless ban wagon but she just never done anything good imo she healed i few people when Pain came to the leaf and during the war but other than that i don't she done much but as i compare her to most other girl characters she is good but she is also the main woman role
 

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They're geniuses in their respective particular aspects...

Word 'Prodigy' in NV imo is used in context that the subject is simply very talented in general i.e. whatever field he puts his/her focus on, becomes expert at that...
 
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