[Discussion] How would these fights turn out if they happened after the time skip?

[Fujitora]

How can Zoro lose to Enel when he has haki to protect himself with? Zoro can solo the entire crew pre timeskip with little to no effort. Enel is a joke like Caribou against haki users.

 

[Laserz]

1. Zoro(extreme diff)
2. Luffy(high-extreme with kinjite, mid diff without kinjite)
3. Kizaru+Kuma(Stomp)
4. Zoro's group(stomp, Enel has shit endurance/durability and reaction speed)
5. VAs(mid-high diff)

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

4. Zoro's group(stomp, Enel has shit endurance/durability and reaction speed)

Enel is the best mantra user we have seen , he is lightning ; he is one of the 5 fastest characters in one piece , do your homework.

 

[Fujitora]

Mantra don't matter if your reaction speed is beyond hopeless. He also needs to go into a certain mode to become fast.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Mantra don't matter if your reaction speed is beyond hopeless. He also needs to go into a certain mode to become fast.

We didn't see Enel transform when he caught up with the Shandorian (he was given one minute to escape) ; it took enel two panels to catch up , that's fast.

 

[Laserz]

Enel is the best mantra user we have seen , he is lightning ; he is one of the 5 fastest characters in one piece , do your homework.

so? He still has shit reaction speed and endurance.

 

[NarutoBijuuMode]

That was a Pacifista,whose power does not even come into terms w/the real Kuma.
Kuma Takes the first one.

 

[Laserz]

That was a Pacifista,whose power does not even come into terms w/the real Kuma.
Kuma Takes the first one.

elaborate further please. Luffy 1 shot that pacifista so you can't really powerscale it like this.