How will the 1st Fare against Madara

[TheObserver]

Every Battle the 1st Hokage and Madara Has fought ended in a DRAW, they were evenly matched in power, skill and techniques. If the 1st Hokage battle Madara in his Rinnegan form during their many battles I doubt he would be on even footing with, Could the reason for all 4 Kage to miraculously to summoned alongside the 1st be because he won’t be able to take Madara down own his own this time around.

 

[Erin]

Your forgetting madara lost roughly half of his power without karuma.

He gained back power, but not in raw destruction. Currently Hashirama outguns him.

 

[uchihassuc3]

well i believe if tobirama and the first did it together they could win but i doubt they would need the third and fourth that would be over kill

 

[ballerjordan]

LOL what. Hashi stomped Madara in all their fights.

 

[Omnipotent]

Your forgetting madara lost roughly half of his power without karuma.

Its EMS Madara/2 + Rinnegan and 2nd best mokuton + Infinite Chakra.

vs

SM Hashirama + Infinite chakra

No he didn't. Madara attacked Konohagakure multiple times, yet still didn't die.

 

[Erin]

No he didn't. Madara attacked Konohagakure multiple times, yet still didn't die.

Hashirama let him escape. It's obvious that madara was only on par with him with karuma.

 

[Omnipotent]

Hashirama let him escape. It's obvious that madara was only on par with him with karuma.

Speculation, nothing more.

Well, seeing as Madara himself stated Hashirama was the only one who could compete with him at the time, it doesn't seem so. The only useful thing that Kurama did for him was spam Tailed Beast Bombs. Other than that, it was detrimental to his chakra and he had to constantly protect Kurama from Hashirama's attacks, once more wasting his chakra.

I mean, he did go for a whole day against Hashirama right before Konohagakure was founded.

 

[Erin]

Speculation, nothing more.

Well, seeing as Madara himself stated Hashirama was the only one who could compete with him at the time, it doesn't seem so. The only useful thing that Kurama did for him was spam Tailed Beast Bombs. Other than that, it was detrimental to his chakra and he had to constantly protect Kurama from Hashirama's attacks, once more wasting his chakra.

I mean, he did go for a whole day against Hashirama right before Konohagakure was founded.

Madara was far more powerful with karuma, as he could rapidly fire sword/TBB hits, equivalent to double the damage of 1 regular sword hit. Yet hashirama still outgunned him with his senju of 1000 hands. Madara with his regular susanoo would have been doing half that damage per strike at a much slower rate. So its only logical to assume that senju of 1000 hands would have destroyed a regular PS much quicker as it had less of its hands destroyed before they made contact.

here is my logic

Susunoo = bijuu destructive power as madara stated.

1 bijuu + 1 bijuu = 2 bijuu

2 bijuu - 1 bijuu = 1 bijuu

Madara had the power of 2 bijuu, and lost 1, therefor his power was split in half. Then he got the rinnegan and Wood Release.

Hashirama = 2 Bijuu + X because he overwhelmed Susunoo karuma with Senju of 1000 hands.

Edo cancels itself out.

 

[TheSages456]

Every Battle the 1st Hokage and Madara Has fought ended in a DRAW, they were evenly matched in power, skill and techniques. If the 1st Hokage battle Madara in his Rinnegan form during their many battles I doubt he would be on even footing with, Could the reason for all 4 Kage to miraculously to summoned alongside the 1st be because he won’t be able to take Madara down own his own this time around.

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if you think that hashirama and madara are equal then you havent been reading the manga correctly.

the other hokage being revived is irrelevant when madara already admitted inferiority to hashirama alone.

 

[DoubleAgentItachi]

Madara never fought Hashirama with a Rinnegan, so I think Madara would be a little bit better. Unless Hashirama uses a lot of taijutsu Madara would win. 1 on 1 of course.

 

[Percy Jackson]

Hashi could kill madara at all of there previous fights, he just let madara live. Just like itachi, he could kill sasuke but he didn't.
At the VOTE madara could keep-up with hashirama because he got 9tail on his side. Edo madara didn't have 9tail on his side..

At first the masked man was said to be madara, now the real madara is here dose the fact still reminds? "NO"
Same gose here:
(1.) Madara was stated by kabuto he make madara (special) better then his prime TRUE. BUT madara ask kabuto do you know about my prime? kabuto say "no". Why did he say NO?? it's because it's madara EMS (put 9tail if you want) + rinnigan + wood.. of course it's better then just EMS (with 9tail on his side) alone... that Y kabuto didn't have to know how powerful madara is in the past.. it's basically saying 1+X is greater then 1 alone.
(2.)Later after that it was conformed after that madara can't summon 9tail as he did in the past. So in other words it's just EMS (WITHOUT 9tail on his side) + wood + rinnigan.
Combine reason 1 & 2 = that quote can't be taken.. because reason no. 2 cancel reason no. 1.


Since hashi. didn't have it's full power as an edo vs madara who is better then his prime. it might be a good match AND we CAN'T say either one stomp another in this fight.

 

[Multiply]

Hashi's at quite the disadvantage here. With the powers of Rinnegan, it's a really good fight. Although, as they're edo-zombies, it all comes down to sealing, and who is better. Hashi clearly wins that branch of the spectrum. It can't even be argued he doesn't. Adding Tobirama would just be overkill. Hashi would be Madara with really high diff, but win nonetheless.

 

[Vexion]

He will kick madaras heine

 

[iRefleX]

Madara will win. Madara will beat them. Naruto + Sasuke will beat Madara not the Kages.