How Tobirama died.

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Mods and Admins, you might want to sticky this shit right here. It is gold. Uncle Steve even agrees with me, but he is in jail and has no internet access. ._.

I had this on my mind for a long time and it was kinda blurry, but today I cleaned it up a little bit. (There Were Some Similar Threads)

We know how Tobirama died. By allowing his comrades to escape, he sacrifices him self fighting against the Kinkaku Force.

Or that's what we think it happened, cuz it was never shown, but only stated.

I think that Madara killed Tobirama - now let me explain.

Let us see what happened there:

Tobirama is a sensor, so he detected the enemies presence.

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Twenty muster bounty hunters, or were they. Tobirama could have lied about it.

Why? Cuz it might have been Madara. He knows that he should be dead, so he is kinda shocked because of it.

Untill Hiruzen, Danzo and the other are arguing, Tobirama doesn't say anything.

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Why? He is thinking what should he do, cuz this is not an ordinary Ninja. Plus, he had a kinda personal feud with him.

Than he decides that he will take him alone.

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Why alone? Cuz in with him was also Kagami, a member of the Uchiha.

Why does that matter? Cuz, at the time, the Uchiha Clan started realising that what Madara said was coming to be truth. The Uchiha were moved to the outskirts of the village, spied on by the ANBU and so on. If they would come to know that Madara was still alive, they would surely want to re-join with him and organise a coup d'etat against the Leaf.

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Tobirama didn't wanted that. So he decided to take him alone. If he wins, the situation will be cleared.

But what if he loses? That's why he makes Hiruzen a Hokage, so the Uchihas wont use the chance for one of them to become a Hokage or for an uprising, cuz there won't be a Hokage to take care of things.

So, what do you guys think? hmm

Now, I just want to add some facts that reinforce this theory by the lovely member IKSOKRIPS and not only that. I will tell you exactly how he died.




So as we all know, Tobirama invented many jutsu such as Kage Bunshin, FTG, and probably his most dangerous/famous jutsu Edo Tensei. Edo Tensei is a jutsu Tobirama invented to reincarnate the dead, but not to their full potential like Orochimaru and Kabuto use it, because he had other use for them. They were used as walking that could keep blowing up, then regenerate, then blow up, etc. Plus he could have been worried if he revived his Edo Tensei at full power, they could always try breaking the restraints and attack himself. But moving on.

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Now here, Madara explains that Edo Tensei was in fact made to clear the battlefield along with the caster. Now how would Madara know this you say? It was because Tobirama used Edo Tensei once Madara was closing in on him, and then Tobirama used Gojō Kibaku Fuda. Madara then used susano'o [probably V3+] since that would be his only jutsu to save him.

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Another scan that reinforces this theory. Tobirama says this time I will defeat you, which means Madara survived Tobirama's Gojō Kibaku Fuda.




Now for idiots who cannot read big things, this is for you. Tobirama sensed Madara coming. Tobirama told everyone to leave, including Kagami Uchiha and said that bounty hunters were coming. After they left, Tobirama used Edo Tensei as Madara showed up. Tobirama then used Gojō Kibaku Fuda and blew the edo and himself away, whilst Madara was safe in his susano'o [V3+].
 
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Woah, two full theories? I'll try later >.>
 

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Nope he died from kinkaku n ginkaku when the brothers attacked the 2 raikage n 2 hokage. Madara didn't kill him sorry. If that were the case tobirama would have mentioned madara killing him when he came back. Sorry your theories are wrong. Just your imagination running wild like an uchiha that lost love.
 

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i would like to say that's plausible, how ever there is no solid evidence that proves your theory right, thus me wanting to say your since I like that theory but no evident proof that you are right..... however I am sticking to manga-facts suach as him being killed by the kinkaku force, since I am pretty sure tobirama would have mentioned that he fought madara when he was suspectedly killed by hashirama to further clear up madaras plot:cool:
 

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I can't wait till it's revealed Kisame killed him
 

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I can't wait till it's revealed Kisame killed him

You troll. .-.

I would cry. ;____;

Nope he died from kinkaku n ginkaku when the brothers attacked the 2 raikage n 2 hokage. Madara didn't kill him sorry. If that were the case tobirama would have mentioned madara killing him when he came back. Sorry your theories are wrong. Just your imagination running wild like an uchiha that lost love.

It never said Tobirama died from the attack, but was left on the verge of death, hence he did not die.
 

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But if it's Madara Tobirama wouldn't be able to buy enough time since he gets fodderized....

In all seriousness nice theory. And where does Tobirama get live sacrifices for Edo?
 

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kinkaku force killed him simple, tobirama waited while hiruzen and danzo were arguing to decide who he would make hokage

as for tobirama saying he will kill madara, thats because he was stopped by hashirama the last time



tobirama would be beyond retarded to sacrifice himself and to try and kill madara with paper bombs when susanoo can tank bijuu damas
 

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But if it's Madara Tobirama wouldn't be able to buy enough time since he gets fodderized....

In all seriousness nice theory. And where does Tobirama get live sacrifices for Edo?

You don't need live sacrifices. Remember Orochimaru in part one?
 

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Didn't he use his students?

I will check.

kinkaku force killed him simple, tobirama waited while hiruzen and danzo were arguing to decide who he would make hokage

as for tobirama saying he will kill madara, thats because he was stopped by hashirama the last time



tobirama would be beyond retarded to sacrifice himself and to try and kill madara with paper bombs

Paper bombs the size of Bijuu. His most powerful attack. That is a reasonable argument, but then how come Madara knew about Edo Tensei and how it was made to wipe the caster off the map? Because he saw it himself, or more likely it was used against him.
 

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I can't wait till it's revealed Kisame killed him

XD

OT: I'd love it if that were made canon. If it's never talked about again, I'll just personally believe that's how it went down Lol

PS: Orochimaru did use his "students", Kin Tsuchi and Zaku Abumi, as sacrifices to resurrect Hashirama and Tobirama in Part 1.
 

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sorry i couldn't keep going .................... stopped at the point of the theory "Madara killed Tobirama" .................... this is extremely far fetched :yeah:

- Tobirama didn't seem shocked/that's the face of a man who's thinking/analyzing the situation.

- why the hell would he lie about it ?? they will just follow his orders anyway, he just needs to tell the squad to get back to the village (in your scenario he's not facing any Shinobi, he's facing Uchiha Madara for god's sake, trust me they will run).

- why the secrecy ?? i mean Tobirama would have mentioned it the moment he returned with the Edo tensei, specially when he sensed Madara's chakra.

i strongly disagree with this theory U_U
 

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Just Kick em while their down. As for Penguin, he would more than likely order a hit on Kishi if this happened and torch his account.
That would be beyond hilarious. I don't think I'd even mind that the series would end; If Penguin killed him.

The fact that Kisame killed Tobirama would be more then enough to make the series great, for me.
 
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