[Discussion] How to predict who will win fights in OP(Hype 101)BB vs Dragon

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The way the OP world works in a battle sense is all about "Hype". Oda builds up a character hype through connections, feats, lineage. But the thing about hype is it only takes one loss or bad showing to be taken from one character and given to another.

I'll explain how Oda decides who wins and who loses fights based on my observation about OP. I could be completely wrong

Sabo vs Burgess: This fight even before it happened I knew what the outcome was going to be. Not because I have Dr Vegapunk brain but because I have a good feel for Oda's writing. Burgess is couldn't touch Ace pretimeskip because he didn't have Haki. So after learning BB was DF hunting and Burgess hadn't consumed a DF I know he would be a punching bag for a debuting Commander in the revolutionary army. But more importantly is why Oda decides to have him lose

Why: The Burgess who fought Sabo is not end game Burgess he will eat a very very powerful DF that will solidify his high rank in BB crew and that's why he loss so easily. Also Sabo has more story importance than Burgess

Sabo vs Fujitora: Both were debuting characters so it was hard to predict. But Oda used a clever way to shownwho had the upper hand without either losing. But based on several factors it was easy to predict who would win given the strength of admirals and how a debuting admiral has to be hyped up

Why: Sabo fought end game Eos Fujitora . At the age of 23 with DF he just got. I think Oda's thinking in this was simple. Fujitora is at an age where his rate of progression is stagnant because he is at his peak. He is at his EOS strength. Sabo in the other hand is no where near his peak his rate of progression and room to grow exceeds Dressrosa Fujitora

Blackbeard vs Dragon Prediction

First of all this thread is made based on the assumption that the fight happens

Blackbeard Hype

1)Final Villian
2)Gave Shanks the Scar
3)Ate Two DFs
4)Yonko

Dragon Hype

1 )Father of the Main Character
2)Son of Garp
3)Leader and Last Line of Defense for The Revolutionary Army
4)World Most Dangerous Man

Who wins this fight and why?

Blackbeard loses because right now BB is not at his peak or no where close to his EOS strength. The Yami and Gura are strong but he has only had them for 2 years. My logic in predicting a loser in a fight is one thing "Potential" the loser has to have potential to get stronger in the future and a higher ceiling. Dragon on the other hand in my opinion is at his peak power right now. Who thinks if Dragon loses he is going to trainnon an island and come back stronger. Not me or no OP fan with Drqgon it will be whatnu see is what u get. But because of BB 2 unmastered DFs he has a higher ceiling than anybody in the verse

Both are characters that need solid hype but Dragon can't afford to lose. If he loses the RA hype goes way down. If BB loses the BB pirates hype goes down but atleast they have potential to get stronger due to BB devilnfruit hunting and BB DFs being unmastered. The RA in the other hand doesn't have that potential minus Sabo

I'm not hating on BB but I think currently he is the weakest Yonko right now because all the Yonko are at the peak EOS strength right now. Granted no one will beat BB without legendary difficulty even in his unmastered state

Side note: My way of predicting fightsis simple who can afford to lose hype vs who can't. And why can they afford to lose why. And my answer to that question in certain scenarios is to see if a character has room to grow and if another character if at their peak . Is this a dumb way if thinking. Just thought I share how I try my best to predict someone whomis unoredicatable
 
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I don't think this way of thinking is dumb at all, it may come with some flaws though. I don't think the whole this character is at their peak so he should win thing can work for everyone. Some characters have a ton of experience and have reached their peaks but just aren't strong.(Brownbeard)

For example, Teach may not need to reach his peak to beat Dragon due to his potential just being that big.
 

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I don't think this way of thinking is dumb at all, it may come with some flaws though. I don't think the whole this character is at their peak so he should win thing can work for everyone. Some characters have a ton of experience and have reached their peaks but just aren't strong.(Brownbeard)

For example, Teach may not need to reach his peak to beat Dragon due to his potential just being that big.
Who knows he might not need his peak strength. But I'm glad u understand my way of trying to predict. Like u said even in not in his peak BB is a problem
 
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I honestly don't think that Oda would hype Dragon up so much to have him lose in his first battle. That would be dumb!!!

Even Whitebeard who was hyped as the WORLDS STRONGEST MAN destroyed everyone who he fought against (Blackbeard and Akainu) and the entire island (Marineford) before he died, and as a result he maintained his hype since the only reason he died was because of his old age, sickness, and multiple wounds that didnt even seem to phase him during battle.

So I agree with your point
 
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I doubt that luffy's dad is going to die this sooner without getting actual character development. I can see BB dying first than dragon imo.
I agree but then again the loser of the fight doesn't have to die. Oda already has shown hencan show a loser through inner monologue, scratches, heavy breathing
 

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Dragon will be part of the last arc. This isn't the ODA way. what he is doing is revealing Dragons highest ranking members while in the process creating more hype for both BB and Dragon.

Why else would Dragon call all his most powerful members just when BB is going to attack (possibly). Not a coincidence because Oda doesn't play like that. Everything he writes (even what Ussop says) eventually means something.
 

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Nah it wouldn't matter if Blackbeard lost to Dragon besides Blackbeard will gain his hype again later when he becomes a little stronger and kills Shanks.
 
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