[Discussion] How to get out of parasite

[Bogard]

The fight against Doflamingo ended and i still don't get how it works. Jozu's entire character revolves around his strength even more than Marco and some admirals. I think only Garp has better portrayal in strength category, but somehow from the brief moment he was caught by parasite, we got no idea if he could get out or not. Oda didn't show him move to even think if it was possible, yet suddenly during this arc, G4 Luffy snaped out of it with unknown reasons.

So it makes me wonder. Was physical strength really the issue? Or was it a change in form due to rubber properties to deflected the strings? Because i've a hard time thinking Jozu couldn't break that thing if it was a physical issue since it would also mean that at the very least weaker character(in physical strength) like Marco or admirals can't either despite the fact that they are portrayed to be stronger than Doflamingo.

I really think parasite was handled very poorly by Oda and he didn't even try to explain how to get out of it during the entire arc, chosing for Doflamingo to never use it despite it being his favorite attack preskip, only finding it convenient to use it by the end and give a mysterious reason for Luffy to break out

 

[Punk Hazard]

His strings could have simply gotten weaker as did the rest of him after GK. You'd think if changing your size would snap them, Jozu could just flex, making his already large muscles expand and snap them.

 

[Bogard]

His strings could have simply gotten weaker as did the rest of him after GK. You'd think if changing your size would snap them, Jozu could just flex, making his already large muscles expand and snap them.

He was only caught for few seconds, not enough time to decide on something to do on an apparent surprised attack. Base Luffy was caught for much longer despite having the apparent means to get out. I'm also not talking about flexing something, more like body expansion and Joz can't do that. I still think it was handled poorly. It seemed like a hax move in the past. Oda should have found a different and more understandable way to get out

 

[Prog]

Maybe Doflamingo is stronger than everyone thinks.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

It was handled poorly, i agree.

But if i think about it, anyone with stronger willpower can break out of it?

 

[Kαmi]

It was handled poorly, i agree.

But if i think about it, anyone with stronger willpower can break out of it?

That would be my guess as well, that breaking parasite is based on willpower. Though there isn't much to support that, I believe CoC and willpower is what got Luffy out of parasite.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

It was handled poorly, i agree.

But if i think about it, anyone with stronger willpower can break out of it?

but why wouldnt jozu have strong will power for saving someone like ace who is his nakama so much so that they r having a war the battle of the best... i dont think willpower is fully it because i dont c why jozu's will power wouldnt be high during that time if he wanted to save his brother and keep wb from harm/....

 

[WhistleBlower]

but why wouldnt jozu have strong will power for saving someone like ace who is his nakama so much so that they r having a war the battle of the best... i dont think willpower is fully it because i dont c why jozu's will power wouldnt be high during that time if he wanted to save his brother and keep wb from harm/....

Fine then, plot?

 

[Bimbonium]

I'd say it's cos of luffy's expansion, since it's going into gear fourth that dispelled it.
If the strings require a definite anchorage point, then the change in form 'll definitely cause a change in body structure

 

[Black Mamba]

Doffy caught Jozu by surprise, it's more likely he broke out of it off panel than Doffy releasing him. Doffy could of just used him to fight other pirates, but he didn't cause he couldn't

 

[Kαmi]

but why wouldnt jozu have strong will power for saving someone like ace who is his nakama so much so that they r having a war the battle of the best... i dont think willpower is fully it because i dont c why jozu's will power wouldnt be high during that time if he wanted to save his brother and keep wb from harm/....

My guess would be that Jozu didn't have the willpower that can be matched up to Luffy's and Joker's. It could have been high but keep in mind both Luffy and Joker have Conqueror's Haki while we don't have proof if Jozu does. It might take a certain amount of strength and willpower and CoC helps with willpower big time.

Or it really is about body structure. Beats me.

 

[lawagbemava]

I think with parasite, u are no longer control of your body,
The only place u have controlled over is your eyes and your brains
but u are not able to control it, now that's where i think Jozu couldn't
have broken out, now luffy was not caught by parasite, he was caught by the strings
so its ok for luffy to brake out of it.

 

[Vandenre1ch]

I've always said willpower was the key. People like VA Stainless, Bellamy and Rebecca can be controlled no problem. Jozu and Sanji struggled and Doffy made no attempt in controlling Law or Luffy(until he got weak).

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

My guess would be that Jozu didn't have the willpower that can be matched up to Luffy's and Joker's. It could have been high but keep in mind both Luffy and Joker have Conqueror's Haki while we don't have proof if Jozu does. It might take a certain amount of strength and willpower and CoC helps with willpower big time.

Or it really is about body structure. Beats me.

c never thought of it like that perhaps ur right bout the conquers

cuz i find it hard tobelieve that luffy (he only really wanted to **** doffy up no real reason behind it unlike law) whereas jozu his fellow nakama was being executed

i honestly think jozu would have had more will power then luffy in this instant (even despite seeing all the bad things doffy done, ace meant something to jozu whereas luffy until this arc didnt even know what a dressrosa was)

 

[Hexuze]

I honestly don't see this being a big deal. It's just a small inconsistency that needs to be addressed. I doubt it's a strength issue, it's more haki to me. Haki is used to bypass DF abilities, so it's obvious that this is haki related. Perhaps we can assume that Jozu's haki wasn't on par to Luffy's haki in G4.

 

[OG sama]

Jozu wasn't trapped for long so it really isn't an issue.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

Doffy caught Jozu by surprise, it's more likely he broke out of it off panel than Doffy releasing him. Doffy could of just used him to fight other pirates, but he didn't cause he couldn't

He also could've negged croc if he put a little haki in his strings but he didn't I don't c ur point ... There's no proof that jozu can get out of it doffy was able to have full conversation with croc attack him and then get attacked while jozu sat helpless honestly puffy breaking out of it is just plot or some conquers haki bull

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

I've always said willpower was the key. People like VA Stainless, Bellamy and Rebecca can be controlled no problem. Jozu and Sanji struggled and Doffy made no attempt in controlling Law or Luffy(until he got weak).

Once again why would jozu will power be weak at a time of war where he's trying to save his nakama whom he cares about who is about to be executed ???

Luffy when saving nami his willpower was sky high and her life wasn't even on the line .... Ace's was I fail to c why jozu would have low willpower when trying to save his nakama

 

[WhistleBlower]

Once again why would jozu will power be weak at a time of war where he's trying to save his nakama whom he cares about who is about to be executed ???

Luffy when saving nami his willpower was sky high and her life wasn't even on the line .... Ace's was I fail to c why jozu would have low willpower when trying to save his nakama

His probably just weaker than his other comrades.
You remember when Vista & Marco attacked Akainu , akainu responded "haki users!". They wouldnt have attacked him without having strong haki. That said Vista is the 5th commander whilst Jozu is 3rd. Why is a lower rank commander stronger in haki?

 

[Yubel]

I feel like preskip Doflamingo would've murdered Luffy and his whole crew.