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F*** did kishi make a more epic war in 10 chapters than he did in 50? I mean seriously WTF? These last few chapters have actually had a sense of 'wait... wait.. .wtf is going on? wait wtf...?' unlike most the entire war. Did kishi just sell off writing privileges to someone else? wtf.

*read after reading latest manga*
Anyway, another point. So, so, so You don't need SM to summon shinshu now? Wtf? Or is kishi going to explain that madara's funneling SM to zetsu?!?!?!?! Even worse, Could Zetsu or, I dread to think, obito use SHinshuu all this time??? What the hell was the point of not using it? Oh, was obito not 'having enough fun'? Is obito now goku?

Furthermre, WTF HIRUZEN??????????????? I'm now a believer. Hiruzen's truly the god of shinobi. PRime hiruzen probably solos hashirama. 5 elements through 5 shadow clones??? all 5 elements AT ONCE? How the hell is he able to use all 5 elements?? Does he secretly have a rinnegan? So, prime hiruzen has enma and A rank jutsu from every element? F*** this, kishi has just fried my brain.
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Haha....great chapter it threw me for a loop as well. The Shinsusenju...I believe the connection between Madara and the Zetsu allow the Zetsu to use the enhancements Madara gets chakra-wise. They are "essentially" Madara anywho. His creations given life....

I don't know if Obito could use it, but this confirms for me that Madara can use it. Unless Shinsusenju doesn't require SM... I don't know how Zetsu is doing it. Idk..... Anywho....Hiruzen was nice this chapter as well....I'm glad Kishi is trying to leave no stone unturned. ^_^
 
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Shinsusenju requires sage mode .Its not a normal mokuton.

Spiral Zetsu was probably connected by Madara's own Sage Mode.This is why he can summon like it was ****ing nothing.
 

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His Shinsuusenju was significantly smaller than Hashirama's. Either because of the lack of Senjutsu Chakra or he didn't have enough Chakra as he is weaker clone than Hashirama.

Spiral Zetsu isn't Obito. Black Zetsu is controlling Obito, so it cannot possibly be him. And Obito cannot use Shinsuusenju since he is not skilled enough.

Regarding Hiruzen's latest feat, it was quite impressive I have to say.
 

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Haha....great chapter it threw me for a loop as well. The Shinsusenju...I believe the connection between Madara and the Zetsu allow the Zetsu to use the enhancements Madara gets chakra-wise. They are "essentially" Madara anywho. I don't know if Obito could use it, but this confirms for me that Madara can use it. Unless Shinsusenju doesn't require SM? Idk..... Anywho....Hiruzen was nice this chapter as well....I'm glad Kishi is trying to leave no stone unturned. ^_^
Shinsusenju requires sage mode .Its not a normal mokuton.

Spiral Zetsu was probably connected by Madara's own Sage Mode.This is why he can summon like it was ****ing nothing.
After reading it again, I think Shinshuu doesn't require SM... I think it's kinda like naruto's senjutsu Rasengan, the sm just powers it up. If you take a look at the one zetsu made, it's like half bijuu to bijuu sized. The one hashi made was 5 to 7 times bigger than that.

But, yea, rikoudo, this confirms madara can indeed use Shinshuusenju. It even confirms he can use the 1Km one. Madara's confirmed the most powerful person in NV history(bar SO6P/his featless sons and mother) by a large margin... Shinshuu, Rinnegan and PS. What's scary to think is that the SO6P probably had more OP jutsu than this... Hopefully, at this point, what kishi's trying to show us is how strong pre-jin SO6P was (through madara); otherwise, that guy is a god.

His Shinsuusenju was significantly smaller than Hashirama's. Either because of the lack of Senjutsu Chakra or he didn't have enough Chakra as he is weaker clone than Hashirama.

Spiral Zetsu isn't Obito. Black Zetsu is controlling Obito, so it cannot possibly be him. And Obito cannot use Shinsuusenju since he is not skilled enough.

Regarding Hiruzen's latest feat, it was quite impressive I have to say.
refer to above on my thoughts on shinju.
But, yea, I realize now it's spiral zetsu on his own. That's why he told obito back then that he should be fighting because he was definitely the stronger of the two (obito being an uchiha). What confirmed it was zetsu on his own, while reading back, was his fascination with poo...
 
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After reading it again, I think Shinshuu doesn't require SM... I think it's kinda like naruto's senjutsu Rasengan, the sm just powers it up. If you take a look at the one zetsu made, it's like half bijuu to bijuu sized. The one hashi made was 5 to 7 times bigger than that.

But, yea, rikoudo, this confirms madara can indeed use Shinshuusenju. It even confirms he can use the 1Km one. Madara's confirmed the most powerful person in NV history(bar SO6P/his featless sons and mother) by a large margin... Shinshuu, Rinnegan and PS. What's scary to think is that the SO6P probably had more OP jutsu than this... Hopefully, at this point, what kishi's trying to show us is how strong pre-jin SO6P was (through madara); otherwise, that guy is a god.



refer to above on my thoughts on shinju.
But, yea, I realize now it's spiral zetsu on his own. That's why he told obito back then that he should be fighting because he was definitely the stronger of the two (obito being an uchiha). What confirmed it was zetsu on his own, while reading back, was his fascination with poo...
Yes.. that makes sense about the rasengan and SM. I agree....yes I also agree Madara minus The Rikudou is by far the most strongest character in Naruto. It seems like Kishi truly enjoys Madaras character.....excellent thread my friend. I'm glad we agree on these things! XD
 

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Lawd Yamato be praise .
Sorry, kishi forgot about him long ago. Yamato, Anko and Kabuto are sipping tea, unconcious, in their respective caves. U_U

Yes.. that makes sense about the rasengan and SM. I agree....yes I also agree Madara minus The Rikudou is by far the most strongest character in Naruto. It seems like Kishi truly enjoys Madaras character.....excellent thread my friend. I'm glad we agree on these things! XD
Thanks lol. And, yea, Kishi seems to like the uchiha in general a lot. He's shown so much fondness for madara, itachi, sasuke and obito. I'll not be surprised if sasuke unlocks the rinnegan next chapter...
 

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Sorry, kishi forgot about him long ago. Yamato, Anko and Kabuto are sipping tea, unconcious, in their respective caves. U_U


Thanks lol. And, yea, Kishi seems to like the uchiha in general a lot. He's shown so much fondness for madara, itachi, sasuke and obito. I'll not be surprised if sasuke unlocks the rinnegan next chapter...
I agree, next chapter Naruto and Sasuke will get something powerful. This "death" is giving way to new strength...I feel that much is obvious. Though....I do agree I believe Kishi is the biggest fan of the Uchiha. They are the Saiyans of NV lol.
 
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