How the Hyuuga actually stack up against Uchiha?

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Word on the Base is that the average Hyuuga is relatively stronger than the average Uchiha and that Average and elite Hyuugas >> Some elite Uchihas?

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This nonsense needed to be debunked a long time ago.
Everything here is backed by 100% manga facts unless I stated otherwise.


- The Uchiha were renowed as a genius clan and the strongest during the war era along side the Senju


No where does in the manga does it even begin to mention the Hyuugas hyped strength until both clans were gone.

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- Although all Hyuuga were capable of using byakugan and gentle fist, none of them were in the same league as Hiashi and Neji. Hiashi made this clear during the chunin exams Neji had power that even the strongest members didn't possessed.

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That's right chunin Neji outclasses the majority of the clan. :th:



-The Hyuuga only claimed to be the strongest of Konoha when the Uchiha were long extinct. Facts.


Then the whole clan went on to be upstagged in the war by the only Uchiha clan members left alive in the entire world.
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-Judging from what we've seen the Uchihas were well versed in many areas of combat while the Hyuuga only specialized in one. In my opinion it makes the Hyuuga predictable and one sided while the Uchiha were more versatile being diverse in different areas of combat.


Lets break this down to see who is superior in what areas of combat.

Ninjutsu-

Obviously goes to Uchiha.

Taijutsu-

Obviously goes to the Hyuuga

Skills & Intellect -

By feats and hype Uchiha

Genjutsu - Uchiha

Kenjutsu- Uchiha

Dojutsu- The sharigan is a league above the Byakugan in ability and power. Only note worthy thing about the Byakugans power is that Kakashi hyped the sight of the Byakugan, never its power or abilities. Byakugan gives you 360 vision and you can see far away. Sharigan can see through just about any technique, can mirror opponents, can cast an unbreakable genjutsu, Izanagi, Izanami etc etc.

Stamina-

The Uchiha were said to have unparalleled chakra while there is nothing note worthy about the Hyuugas chakra.
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So, thats 6 points in favor of Uchiha and 1 point in favor of Byakugan.


We can even pit the the Strongest members against each other and it would absolutely be a slaughter in favor of Uchiha.


Itachi's prodigy status vs Neji, Hiashi,
No contest here. Hiruzen said Itachi had hokage wisdom at the age of 7. He was the youngest to graduate from the academy and solo'd a sanin in his teenage years. Something Hiashi would struggle with and Neji was never able to become that powerful.
Sasukes prodigy status vs Neji,Hiashi,
Again no contest here. By the age of 17, Sasuke became a Demi God compared to these two contenders. Can easily wipe out the whole clan combined.
Madaras prodigy status vs Neji,Hiashi,
It's Madara nuff said
Shisui prodigy status vs Neji,Hiashi,Hinata
This a more well rounded match up. We can call Neji the Itachi of the Hyuuga clan because never has a more prodigous clan member been produced. Yet at the same time by hype and feats Shisui stomps Neji ot of the water. Shisui during a time of war was known for his genjutsu specialties/shunshin and although the Byakugan detect genjutsu/ there is no bypassing this one in a 1v1 situation.


Sharigan Uchiha abilities vs Average Hyuuga abilities:

Fire style/ninjutsu
Kenjutsu
Powerful chakra
Uchiha Kinjutsu
Genjutsu
Sharigan
Izanagi

Average Hyuuga abilities

-Byakugan
-Gentle Fist 32 strike.
-Air palm




Elite Uchiha abilities vs Elite Hyuuga abilities.

MS techniques such as Kamui,Amaterasu, Susanoo, Tsyukomi etc etc.
Advanced ninjutsu
Advanced genjutsu
Izanagi and Izanami

Elite Hyuuga abilities:
Rotation
64 palm
twin lion fist?
Hiashi air palm



Conclusion: Uchiha is about 4-5 tiers above the Hyuuga. Going by their abilities, combined intellect, strongest members, skills set and even chakra levels. By hype and feats Uchiha blows Hyuuga out the water, even years after Madara had died Uchiha managed to keep the "strongest in Konoha title".


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Kishi forgot about the Hyuuga. The byakugan got little to no attention whereas the sharingan became essential to the plot. Shame that. Neji was so ahead of the game early on shame really
This right here. Despite being descended from the same God clan (Otsutsuki) Kishi Wanked the Uchiha so hard that Hyuuga got left in the dust.

The only point at which a Hyuga can really be compared to an Uchiha is at the base Sharingan level. Once they start activating Tomei in their eyes Hyuga's Byakugan starts to take a back seat to the "glory" of the Uchiha.
 
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A Clan which is massively developed, Which just happens to be one of the main characters clan vs a side clan that got zero screen time.
Doesn't really need a thread to be made just to show their superiority.

Also itachi was not the youngest to Graduate from the academy, Kakashi and all 3 sannin did it at a younger age.

And Sasuke's prodigy wasn't the only reason he became demi god tier, The sages hand me downs and his destiny to become indra's reincarnation played massive roles in this.
 

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Kishi forgot about the Hyuuga. The byakugan got little to no attention whereas the sharingan became essential to the plot. Shame that. Neji was so ahead of the game early on shame really
Thats simply because there was hardly anything left to expand on. Hiashi said Neji surpassed the main branch in the chunin exams but I agree the sharigan being more tied to the plot thus they have more feats.
 

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Thats simply because there was hardly anything left to expand on. Hiashi said Neji surpassed the main branch in the chunin exams but I agree the sharigan being more tied to the plot thus they have more feats.
I Highly doubt a Genin participating in the Chunin exams at the age of 12 surpassed the main branch. Yes he learn't a Main branch technique on his own but thats why he was labeled a Genius, Doesn't mean he was stronger than older/higher ranked hyuga members.

If this was the case and with 99% of the huyga being so dog shit that they've been surpassed by part 1 neji then i would be really questioning just how weak the other clans are.
 

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I Highly doubt a Genin participating in the Chunin exams at the age of 12 surpassed the main branch. Yes he learn't a Main branch technique on his own but thats why he was labeled a Genius, Doesn't mean he was stronger than older/higher ranked hyuga members.

If this was the case and with 99% of the huyga being so dog shit that they've been surpassed by part 1 neji then i would be really questioning just how weak the other clans are.
That's a good point. While Neji was hailed a genius for his feats, we can't really compare him at 12-13 to a main branch adult Hyuuga. He learned their techniques on his own sure but they still have far more experience in using it than he did.
 

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I Highly doubt a Genin participating in the Chunin exams at the age of 12 surpassed the main branch. Yes he learn't a Main branch technique on his own but thats why he was labeled a Genius, Doesn't mean he was stronger than older/higher ranked hyuga members.

If this was the case and with 99% of the huyga being so dog shit that they've been surpassed by part 1 neji then i would be really questioning just how weak the other clans are.
Hiashi said Neji learned techniques that only the heirs were able to learn and goes on to say he surpassed the main branch. So technique wise yes Neji >>>>>>99% of the Hyuuga. Strength & experience wise is unknown, but we can ultimately conclude that chunin Neji was indeed stronger than then majority of the clan easily.


Compared to Uchiha and Senju the other clans were weak af, that's how the story goes.




A Clan which is massively developed, Which just happens to be one of the main characters clan vs a side clan that got zero screen time.
Doesn't really need a thread to be made just to show their superiority.

Also itachi was not the youngest to Graduate from the academy, Kakashi and all 3 sannin did it at a younger age.

And Sasuke's prodigy wasn't the only reason he became demi god tier, The sages hand me downs and his destiny to become indra's reincarnation played massive roles in this.
I beg to differ. There are people who believe a Average Hyuuga is superior to most Uchiha, so yes it was 100% necessary to post this. Itachi wasn't the youngest that's my mistake, I got it confused with the fact the academy teacher hyping Itachi saying they never had a better student.

Don't hate on Sauce man. Hebi Sasuke is better than any Hyuuga and EMS Sasuke still wrecks the entire clan.
 

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Hiashi said Neji learned techniques that only the heirs were able to learn and goes on to say he surpassed the main branch. So technique wise yes Neji >>>>>>99% of the Hyuuga. Strength & experience wise is unknown, but we can ultimately conclude that chunin Neji was indeed stronger than then majority of the clan easily.


Compared to Uchiha and Senju the other clans were weak af, that's how the story goes.






I beg to differ. There are people who believe a Average Hyuuga is superior to most Uchiha, so yes it was 100% necessary to post this. Itachi wasn't the youngest that's my mistake, I got it confused with the fact the academy teacher hyping Itachi saying they never had a better student.

Don't hate on Sauce man. Hebi Sasuke is better than any Hyuuga and EMS Sasuke still wrecks the entire clan.
Still Exaar has a point. Sasuke is still an Indra incarnate. Just like Madara, Hashirama, and Naruto. Even amongst their own clans they are special exceptions as all 4 of their chakras are special. But that doesn't mean you aren't correct in the fact that yes Sauce would still wreck the Hyuga clan. I am man enough to admit that :coffee:
 

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Well since every member of the hyuga clan has byakugan then sure they'll be better than sharingan-less Uchiha which constitutes a fair number of the Uchiha. Imo byakugan = 2T sharingan or 1T depends on the person wielding it
 
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Still Exaar has a point. Sasuke is still an Indra incarnate. Just like Madara, Hashirama, and Naruto. Even amongst their own clans they are special exceptions as all 4 of their chakras are special. But that doesn't mean you aren't correct in the fact that yes Sauce would still wreck the Hyuga clan. I am man enough to admit that :coffee:
I honestly don't see the point he's trying to make except an excuse. We can't exclude Sasuke and Madara from the clan just because they are Indras reincarnate.
 

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I honestly don't see the point he's trying to make except an excuse. We can't exclude Sasuke and Madara from the clan just because they are Indras reincarnate.
Oh don't get me wrong I am not trying to exclude them. They are what they are. But at the same time we can't exclude the fact that Indra chakra made them special. No one other than Indra incarnates can awaken the Rinnegan. No other Uchiha can do this unless they they have those special chakras (Indra/Ashura) if Izuna faced Hashirama and
Managed to get a piece of him he wouldn't awaken the Rinnegan because he has no Indra chakra. Look at Hashirama the Ashura incarnate. He wielded Mokuton. Naruto, an Ashura Incarnate gained the Rikudo's body(sage mode) no other Uzumaki could achieve this.

It is what it is.
Kishi made them out to be special.
 

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Kishi forgot about the Hyuuga. The byakugan got little to no attention whereas the sharingan became essential to the plot. Shame that. Neji was so ahead of the game early on shame really
Agree. Kishi crammed that clan down our throats the last three years to make up for the severe poor writing he did in regards to them. Naruto for 80% of the manga was an Uchiha wank fest. If red eyes are your thing, Naruto is all for you. smh
 
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Oh don't get me wrong I am not trying to exclude them. They are what they are. But at the same time we can't exclude the fact that Indra chakra made them special. No one other than Indra incarnates can awaken the Rinnegan. No other Uchiha can do this unless they they have those special chakras (Indra/Ashura) if Izuna faced Hashirama and
Managed to get a piece of him he wouldn't awaken the Rinnegan because he has no Indra chakra. Look at Hashirama the Ashura incarnate. He wielded Mokuton. Naruto, an Ashura Incarnate gained the Rikudo's body(sage mode) no other Uzumaki could achieve this.

It is what it is.
Kishi made them out to be special.
Uchiha were always special. Indra blood flowed throughout the Uchiha clan anyways .
 

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Neji, his dad and Hiashi
Hebi Sasuke slaughters first 2 and with manda takes out hiashi

OT:Hyuga fans[hardcore wanker] are bunch of part 1 enthusiastic morons who actually thought there fav were why the manga was made

I have seen Bullcraps like Neji dodging Susanoo arrow by showing feats of him eascaping Kidomaru arrows.
Neji can defeat MS Sasuke and some goes far enough to spam he can defeat EMS Sasuke
one sprouted Hiashi is on same lvl as Itachi though that was a downer as he has stated Hiashi can defeat EMS Madara
Hinata[with fanfics on her side] can stand against any high tier despite her being one of the weakest of Konaha 11
i haven't seen any other fanbase make such moronic argument and moaning at last kishi didn't give the much screentime

We have great char like Trollkage,Chouji,Tobirama,Raikage's,Mei,Konan,Darui,Mu,Ohnoki with very limited screen time proficient in battles

Edit: @Dantee bruh 32 palms is non canon like half of Hyuga arsenal and appearance :|
 
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