How the hell is Sasuke pure ?

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So he is Purely gullible
or purely manipulable

Exactly.... if madara spits out a story about how konaha secretly always planned to annihilate the uchiha despite itachi doing it.
8/10 sasuke with completely hate the village again
 

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Exactly.... if madara spits out a story about how konaha secretly always planned to annihilate the uchiha despite itachi doing it.
8/10 sasuke with completely hate the village again

Bro sauce made his own decision after listening to hashi's so called sob story
currently i don't see him changing sides
also we both know kishi is not making him bad again
 

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I think kishi is defining pure as not swung in either direction of the moral compass. It might be more accurate to say neutral, but it's not what he used, therefore sasuke must be god... #truth
 

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Yes Sasuke is actually pure. He did thing because to him then, they were right.
For him, he was going to exterminate evil. Though he was unwise and biased to choose the part of vengence which consumed his pure nature. But try and take a look at the Sasuke before the massacre, he was a pure child.
He later became a douchbag anyway:hyper:
 

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In some cases age is irrelevant but not all. I certainly hope you wouldn't say age is irrelevant in the case of a 40 yr old man with a 16 yr old girl... And that's your opinion I guess. But I'm sure Kishi knows his characters better than any of us. Yes, Sasuke did seem to be manipulated but that has nothing to do with being pure. As someone mentioned before, that's part of being a blank canvas which ties in with the sense of purity I spoke of. Sasuke wasn't manipulated in being good or evil. After discussing with various people who had different pasts of their own, Sasuke made a decision.

With Obito, he heard Madara's half of a story and then decided on revenge for the sake of the Uchiha. But after hearing Itachi and Hashirama's story, he chose a different path. Why? Because he finally had the whole truth. In each of these incidents, Sasuke makes a decision based off not what he thought was good or evil, but with what he felt was right at the time. His sense of righteousness and justice has changed based on how much knowledge he's gained about the past. This is why Sasuke is pure. Despite manipulation, good or evil, Sasuke's path is always decided on what he knows and sometimes, he doesn't have all the facts. That's why he revived Oro, he wanted to know the history of it all so that he could truly make a decision he was comfortable with.

If I was 40 I'd be with my wife and kids
Obito only did this for his version of peace . He never did it the uchiha.
And kishi does know his character's better than anyone but I'm just stating my opinion just like u
 

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Bro sauce made his own decision after listening to hashi's so called sob story
currently i don't see him changing sides
also we both know kishi is not making him bad again

That's why I said if
If = example
I know he's not changing again it'd be pointless anyway
 

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If I was 40 I'd be with my wife and kids
Obito only did this for his version of peace . He never did it the uchiha.
And kishi does know his character's better than anyone but I'm just stating my opinion just like u

Yes u are
and sasuke has his version which may seem biased becoz its his version.
Pov differs
Sasuke was/is nuetral which imo is perfect for being pure as both village and akatsuki have their hand in darkness.
 

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If I was 40 I'd be with my wife and kids
Obito only did this for his version of peace . He never did it the uchiha.
And kishi does know his character's better than anyone but I'm just stating my opinion just like u
Well you did ask, "How is sasuke pure" so we gave an answer, like it or not, its still a fact

-Kishi's words-
 

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Definitely because he is not good or evil, he is neutral and acts based on things that have happened to him.

His actions are also the result of actions that occurred in the "shadows" of Konoha, the stuff nobody talks about. His actions are purely a retaliation to the Uchiha Genocide, whether it was directed towards Itachi, Danzo, the Leaf, or the Shinobi System, Sasuke seeks to confront these issues until they're resolved and he doesn't let them go unanswered.

He is not concerned with morally right or wrong, all of his actions are simply his response to dealing with the hatred and genocide left over from Konoha's dark side. His intentions are purely neutral and responsive to both Konoha's and his own past.
 

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Well you did ask, "How is sasuke pure" so we gave an answer, like it or not, its still a fact

-Kishi's words-

Noted, though, that because of translation, kishi's words might have been altered. His "pure" might not be the same as ours. He might have meant something else, because the word doesn't fit what he was describing.
 

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Yes u are
and sasuke has his version which may seem biased becoz its his version.
Pov differs
Sasuke was/is nuetral which imo is perfect for being pure as both village and akatsuki have their hand in darkness.
Sasuke doesn't know peace via friendship or understanding. He seeks peace his way. How is his way peaceful for everyone? Sound s selfish and on same track as madara/obito
Unlike naruto who generally understands everyone for who they are or for who they can be.
This version will be the version people would want to follow instead of sasuke's
 

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Well you did ask, "How is sasuke pure" so we gave an answer, like it or not, its still a fact

-Kishi's words-
Never DISAGREED with kishi .. just asked HOW WAS HE PURE ...
Your words=unirrelevant
 

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Noted, though, that because of translation, kishi's words might have been altered. His "pure" might not be the same as ours. He might have meant something else, because the word doesn't fit what he was describing.
At least you think before you just right something on the screen .. thanks
 

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Noted, though, that because of translation, kishi's words might have been altered. His "pure" might not be the same as ours. He might have meant something else, because the word doesn't fit what he was describing.
on alot of sites, it said the word "pure" so i think it was the right translation but who knows, the way i see it,he has done sinful things for a greater good, he killed danzo, who has done many bad things in his life, he messed up alot of characters lives Naruto,sasuke,itachi,shisui and etc, so to me it was kind of like sasuke is "Karma", he also killed a akatsuki member, and he was trying to give clousure to his clan when he thought itachi was evil, but he had to do a bad thing (Join orchimaru) to get the power he needed, you can also see it as this
"You lose some & you win some, as long as the outcome is income -Drake"
 

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Well basically every significant person in his life was telling him to do so. He realised Obito was a bad influence and seperated himself from Itachi and Naruto and made his own mature decision about what to do with his future.

I think that's pretty fair.
 

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Sasuke doesn't know peace via friendship or understanding. He seeks peace his way. How is his way peaceful for everyone? Sound s selfish and on same track as madara/obito
Unlike naruto who generally understands everyone for who they are or for who they can be.
This version will be the version people would want to follow instead of sasuke's

Bro Peace might be what everyone desires but it's way to achieve might be Questionable.
As Naruto is the protagonist his way to peace is more fairytale acceptable by everyone and sasuke is rival his way is darker but more realist unacceptable by most.
If people starts following sasuke rather thann naruto then really what will happen to SHONEN manga and it's lead hero.
 

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Bro Peace might be what everyone desires but it's way to achieve might be Questionable.
As Naruto is the protagonist his way to peace is more fairytale acceptable by everyone and sasuke is rival his way is darker but more realist unacceptable by most.
If people starts following sasuke rather thann naruto then really what will happen to SHONEN manga and it's lead hero.
Honestly people might follow sasuke because of his power
People with follow naruto because of his heart he was accepted by the entire shinobi world because of this war
While sasuke May be helping now he still will have to answer for his crimes to gain trust but I'm pretty sure that he doesn't care about any with him it's get down or lay down and people won't except that
 

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Honestly people might follow sasuke because of his power
People with follow naruto because of his heart he was accepted by the entire shinobi world because of this war
While sasuke May be helping now he still will have to answer for his crimes to gain trust but I'm pretty sure that he doesn't care about any with him it's get down or lay down and people won't except that

Yes that is why manga is called Naruto and he is lead and sasuke is duetragonist.
About future events i live everything kishi becoz its his manga
 
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