How the hell did Hashi beat Madara?!

[Shinozgr8]

either he didn't have to face full susanoo or like...idk what really happened in that fight. i need to know now! what kinda wood style could beat full susanoo, assuming madara had it...madara's fire style...genjutsu...kishi has explaining to do. #thatisall

 

[MadaraHashirama]

There's a reason why Madara keeps bragging about Hashirama the whole time, Hashirama is just also super powerful, the problem is we just don't know anything about what Hashirama, or even the Senju's could do in general unlike the Uchiha who have Sharingan/(Eternal)Mangekyou Sharingan/Rinnegan and so on...
It's hard to believe that Hashirama won against Madara or is equal to Madara but that's just how it is, Hashirama will pull out really powerful techniques aswell! Time will show

 

[Mejkl3]

Madara obtained the wood style after his fight with Hashimira so he didnt had the wood style and wood clones ... as he needed Hashimiras cells for wood release.

 

[purewesome]

theres already 5 thread of same title lolzz pls stop it already

 

[Naruto Ninetails]

i think he killed him by his own sword......

 

[USSJ Future Trunks]

well in terms of fighting the complete susano, i think he used some super secret senju hax. not necessarily the regular wood style. until we get a flashback we wont know.
people forget susano has a flaw. it slowly eats away at the users life force. prolonged use of the complete version is probably deadly

 

[Grammar Nazi]

well in terms of fighting the complete susano, i think he used some super secret senju hax. not necessarily the regular wood style. until we get a flashback we wont know.
people forget susano has a flaw. it slowly eats away at the users life force. prolonged use of the complete version is probably deadly

I don't think this applies to someone with ems.

 

[MadaraHashirama]

well in terms of fighting the complete susano, i think he used some super secret senju hax. not necessarily the regular wood style. until we get a flashback we wont know.
people forget susano has a flaw. it slowly eats away at the users life force. prolonged use of the complete version is probably deadly

This. We are starting to learn about Madara's true power and soon we're gonna learn about Hashirama's true power, until then it's kinda natural you people won't believe that Hashirama is atleast equal to Madara.

 

[EggesGabo]

well Kabuto said he made Madara stronger than in his prime.
plus he obtained the wood style and rinnegan after the battle with Hashirama.

 

[kyle340]

I think that ems madara didn't have alot of these abilities that hes showing against the 5 kages when he had his fight with hashi for example i don't think he had the full power susanoo and he also didnt hashis power.

Some people think that he had all these powers while fighting him but he prob didn't get some of these powers til he was an old man.

 

[Abon]

well in terms of fighting the complete susano, i think he used some super secret senju hax. not necessarily the regular wood style. until we get a flashback we wont know.
people forget susano has a flaw. it slowly eats away at the users life force. prolonged use of the complete version is probably deadly

But Madara already had the EMS at the time, of fighting harashima.

 

[Mark Uzumaki]

You know there's a reason Madara is having a crush on Hashi :noc:

 

[Soranokenja]

I just wish to end this thread right as it begins, the 5 kages are fighting edo madara. When Hashirama fought Madara he only had (EMS), fire style, and control of the kyubi. So the complete Susanoo is only due to the edo tensei revival, which gives him hashiramas senju cells, elongated eternal life, wood style, and near unlimited chakra reserves. Plain and simple when Hashirama fought Madara he was a bitch compared to the added powers he has now. One last note, Madara unlocked the Rinnengan right before his death, after he lost to Hashirama. Currently, it may be just to say that Edo Madara is the strongest and most OP character in the series.

 

[Itachi Uchiwa]

MAdara had Incomplete eyes Back then (EMS without Rinne).

and i actually think that Madara's way of thinking that Hashirama is superior to him made him kind of weak against Hashirama. + Hashirama was way stronger when it comes to stamina and Mokuton !
but i really want to know what the hell happened back then it just doesn't go tghtr !

can't imagine Hashirama breaking through FV susanoo, um sure it has smth to do with mokuton !

 

[Shinozgr8]

I just wish to end this thread right as it begins, the 5 kages are fighting edo madara. When Hashirama fought Madara he only had (EMS), fire style, and control of the kyubi. So the complete Susanoo is only due to the edo tensei revival, which gives him hashiramas senju cells, elongated eternal life, wood style, and near unlimited chakra reserves. Plain and simple when Hashirama fought Madara he was a bitch compared to the added powers he has now. One last note, Madara unlocked the Rinnengan right before his death, after he lost to Hashirama. Currently, it may be just to say that Edo Madara is the strongest and most OP character in the series.

ohoiii so does this mean sasuke/itachi doesn't have a complete susanoo? erm...rather, maybe they do, but not nearly as powerful?

and also, so hashi's cells gives madara extra chakra as well? i guess that would make sense, instead of just wood style.

and sorry for the common thread lol i haven't slept U_U

and another question. so madara just said "oh since i'm edo with hashi's cells, maybe i'll try a complete susanoo."? like, it's kinda hard to believe he could just make up these jutsus on the spot since he probably hasn't used them before

 

[Shinozgr8]

MAdara had Incomplete eyes Back then (EMS without Rinne).

and i actually think that Madara's way of thinking that Hashirama is superior to him made him kind of weak against Hashirama. + Hashirama was way stronger when it comes to stamina and Mokuton !
but i really want to know what the hell happened back then it just doesn't go tghtr !

can't imagine Hashirama breaking through FV susanoo, um sure it has smth to do with mokuton !

agreed!

 

[Soranokenja]

ohoiii so does this mean sasuke/itachi doesn't have a complete susanoo? erm...rather, maybe they do, but not nearly as powerful?

and also, so hashi's cells gives madara extra chakra as well? i guess that would make sense, instead of just wood style.

and sorry for the common thread lol i haven't slept U_U

and another question. so madara just said "oh since i'm edo with hashi's cells, maybe i'll try a complete susanoo."? like, it's kinda hard to believe he could just make up these jutsus on the spot since he probably hasn't used them before

ohoiii so does this mean sasuke/itachi doesn't have a complete susanoo? erm...rather, maybe they do, but not nearly as powerful?

I never said that, it is a possibility, although I doubt it, because being living means you have mortal limitations. And yeah definetly, because remember not only is Madara an edo with inhuman chakra and regenerative ability, which means he can spam and abuse justsu with no consequence, but he is jacked up with senju cells, it is easy to see why he would be so arrogant lol. The kages really have no chance. The only way the Kages will win is by Itachi releasing the edo. I think that the complete Susanoo is canon, however, it would take a lot of time for sasuke to be able to accomplish soemthing like that. He would definetly need the rinnengan first. And although his eyes wouldn't bug out, summoning such an immense susanoo would be like when Nagato summoned, what was it called, that corpse thing. also I think that giant bandaged creature is the chakraless Juubi body.