How strong would Naruto be if...

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How strong would Naruto be if he never had kyuubi from the beginning...

Say he grew up like a normal Ninja and trained like he normally does...

would he be able to fight current Sakura or current Sasuke...

or would he be fodder...

plz state your reasons and proof...

I personally think Sakura would kick his a$$
 

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I'd probably be a little stronger than Sakura due to SM. He'd probably become a Sage master and learn some more element type of moves. He'd still have great taijutsu thanks to SM too, I'd say he'd be low-mid Kage level without Kurama. He wouldn't be able to defeat Sasuke as he is now though but I think he'd still dominate Sakura.
 

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So he'd have Minato as a father.And he'd have Kushina as his mother.
He'd still be Ashura's transmigant
He'd have an insane amount of chakra as an Uzumaki.
His father would teach him FTG etc.
Maybe he'd have mokuton.
I'd say he'd turn out the same
 

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His dad and mom would've never died, and he probably would've learned better jutsu, FTG, more rasengans from minatao, sealing jutsu from his mom. I think Naruto didn't study and acted out so much because he was picked/hated on for being a jin...

Edit: Then again, that would alter the entire story, Uchiha might not even gotten attacked if Minato was alive/Sasuke would've never left the village...
 
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So he'd have Minato as a father.And he'd have Kushina as his mother.
He'd still be Ashura's transmigant
He'd have an insane amount of chakra as an Uzumaki.
His father would teach him FTG etc.
Maybe he'd have mokuton.
I'd say he'd turn out the same
aside the mokuton(which would be cool if he did) I completely agree with you here.

His dad and mom would've never died, and he probably would've learned better jutsu, FTG, more rasengans from minatao, sealing jutsu from his mom. I think Naruto didn't study and acted out so much because he was picked/hated on for being a jin...

I agree. Plus if his parents were alive Naruto would have grown up with some parental guidance in manners and he would probably be forced or at least inspirated to study in class and he would probably be pretty OP with Uzumaki sealing Jutsu.
 
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I'd probably be a little stronger than Sakura due to SM. He'd probably become a Sage master and learn some more element type of moves. He'd still have great taijutsu thanks to SM too, I'd say he'd be low-mid Kage level without Kurama. He wouldn't be able to defeat Sasuke as he is now though but I think he'd still dominate Sakura.
Sm???????? He wouldn't have that nine tails reserve to help him gain 10000 years training in one day

Dominate sakura??? Only in his bed XD
 

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So he'd have Minato as a father.And he'd have Kushina as his mother.
He'd still be Ashura's transmigant
He'd have an insane amount of chakra as an Uzumaki.
His father would teach him FTG etc.
Maybe he'd have mokuton.
I'd say he'd turn out the same
I agree with you except for mokuton bs.
 

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Sm???????? He wouldn't have that nine tails reserve to help him gain 10000 years training in one day

Dominate sakura??? Only in his bed XD
Yamato surpressed his kyuubi chakra while training. That was Naruto's chakra reserve, not Kurama's. He could still get over 9000 years of training in one day. Remember, Naruto is an Uzumaki and on top of that Ashura's transmigant. His chakra lvls are over 9000
 

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Ashuras transmigrant [Eventually awaken the avatar]

Awaken 'Body of the sage' [Which grants him the senjutsu,gudou damas etc..]

Learn sealing techniques of Uzumaki from Kushina

Possibly learn 'Flying Thunder God' from Minato

P.S. He would not have the extra chakra from 'Tailed Beasts', although his natural tendency will suffice to be on par with Sasuke .
 

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Sm???????? He wouldn't have that nine tails reserve to help him gain 10000 years training in one day
Dominate sakura??? Only in his bed XD
Sage mode wasn't a product of Kurama's chakra. WHy do people keep saying that. Actually Kurama hindered some of his SM training. He can master Sage Mode because he in an Uzumaki and has a large enough chakra pool for it. Kurama had nothing to do with his training.

@Bold: This wasn't for Sage mode training. Naruto used Taiju Kag Bushin no Jutsu for Rasenshuriken development. And again Kurama's chakra was hindering it. Whenever Naruto's own chakra would run out in one of the clones Kurama's chakra would seep in and start to turn him. That's why Yamato had to be present to subdue Kurama's chakra with his Mokuton

It would only be logical for him to have something as an Ashura transmigant.
The previous transmigant(Hashirama) had mokuton , so that's the only Ashura justu we know so I went with that.
This is true. I hadn't looked at it this way. Do you think Ashura himself may have had Mokuton? if so then your theory holds even more merit.
 
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Sage mode wasn't a product of Kurama's chakra. WHy do people keep saying that. Actually Kurama hindered some of his SM training. He can master Sage Mode because he in an Uzumaki and has a large enough chakra pool for it. Kurama had nothing to do with his training.



This is true. I hadn't looked at it this way. Do you think Ashura himself may have had Mokuton? if so then your theory holds even more merit.
I think Ashura did have the Mokuton. Mokuton was derived from the God tree, which the Sage absorbed when he became the JJ. He had his children while a JJ.That gives us the reason to believe that Ashura did in fact have Mokuton.
 
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I think Ashura did have the Mokuton. Mokuton was derived from the God tree, which the Sage absorbed when he became the JJ. He had his children while a JJ.That gives us the reason to believe that Ashura did in fact have Mokuton.
It's a very logical assumption so I could see Naruto having Mokuton if he hadn't become the Kyuubi Jin. + rep for this yo! Good theory :win:
 

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Konohamaru didn't have the Yellow flash as his dad tho.
Sage mode wasn't a product of Kurama's chakra. WHy do people keep saying that. Actually Kurama hindered some of his SM training. He can master Sage Mode because he in an Uzumaki and has a large enough chakra pool for it. Kurama had nothing to do with his training.



This is true. I hadn't looked at it this way. Do you think Ashura himself may have had Mokuton? if so then your theory holds even more merit.
1. Naruto is half uzimaki

2. So6p said and naruto also knows he didnt inherit any good trait from his parent

3. Jman already pointed out minato seal nine tails in naruto in a way that allow its chakra to seep out and merge with naruto's resulting in large chakra pool(after kakashi said naruto has big pool because kakashi doesn't have a clue)
 

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How strong would Naruto be if he never had kyuubi from the beginning...

Say he grew up like a normal Ninja and trained like he normally does...

would he be able to fight current Sakura or current Sasuke...

or would he be fodder...

plz state your reasons and proof...

I personally think Sakura would kick his a$$
so , current sakura can beat 4 pains? oh plz :|
 
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