How strong was base Minato [EXPLAINED]

[L O S T]

i'd slow my roll on the praise. Minato was a super ninja, but not because he was perfectly capable of being that w/o the benefit of having access to justu other ppl created.

Well your point is kinda redundant since everyone uses other people's Jutsus. Chidori or rasengan are example of that. After tobirama, Minato was the only shinobi to successfully posses it.

 

[Lyke]

itachi solo's minato mid difficulty..


minato is overrated

Mid? More like neg diff

 

[JStar King]

Kyuubi disagrees


Also:

Tobirama showed better reflexes

Tobirama created FTG which Minato uses

Tobirama was the first to use the finger touch to sense which Minato uses


Nothing wrong with praising your fav but atleast be accurate about it

Tobirama also said that Minato is faster than him.

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Just saying.

 

[L O S T]

itachi solo's minato mid difficulty..


minato is overrated

It's the other way around really :kk:

What does Itachi have that will confirm Minato's defeat? Totsuka would be useless as Minato has space time barrier and his shunshin is the worlds best. Genjutsu would be useless as you need a stationary target.

 

[L O S T]

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[Darth AniCetuS]

Minato sure rustles a lot of people's jimmies.....:th:

 

[L O S T]

Minato sure rustles a lot of people's jimmies.....:th:

He always rusteling dem jimmies kool:

Imma just drop this here:

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[WalksInShadows]

Well your point is kinda redundant since everyone uses other people's Jutsus. Chidori or rasengan are example of that. After tobirama, Minato was the only shinobi to successfully posses it.

Chidori and Rasengan didn't make anybody a super ninja and everybody get access to very privileged info to look either, so matter how redundant it is, it's fair to point it out since those techniques are why he had that rep. I like Minato myself, but that doesn't mean i'm going to willfully ignore the facts.

 

[L O S T]

Chidori and Rasengan didn't make anybody a super ninja and no one had to get access to a scroll only the Hokage were privileged to look at either, so matter how redundant it is, it's fair to point it out since those techniques are why he had that rep. I like Minato myself, but that doesn't mean i'm going to willfully ignore the facts.

FTG isn't a technique anyone can master, otherwise everyone could have done it. The fact that it took a single person to master it explain how skilled of a shinobi Minato is.

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Scroll? The hell you on about, that technique isn't privileged to only the Hokage. Even the shadow clone jutsu was known to everyone and some managed to make quite a few but only Naruto could take it up to the max because of his chakra and skill. Minato used ftg even before becoming a hokage

 

[startup98]

"Whoever strikes a split second earlier would win!" - Minato

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Clearly from what we've seen, Tobirama is always quicker to act, therefore more quick on his feet to strike without any hesitation. I think Tobriama would win high diff.

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[WalksInShadows]

FTG isn't a technique anyone can master, otherwise everyone could have done it. The fact that it took a single person to master it explain how skilled of a shinobi Minato is.


Scroll? The hell you on about, that technique isn't privileged to only the Hokage. Even the shadow clone jutsu was known to everyone and some managed to make quite a few but only Naruto could take it up to the max because of his chakra and skill. Minato used ftg even before becoming a hokage

you're campaigning so hard for Minato, you're taking my words completely out of context. Nowhere did i say literally anybody can master FTG, and you're definitely campaigning way too hard for Minato if you honestly believe he's the only genius capable of mastering it if they ever using it. The difference between Minato and other geniuses is that he absolutely needed it.

 

[Umari Senju]

I like his finger sensing technique, and once again, like if Kishimoto wanted to tell us something, this technique belongs to Tobirama.

I wouldn' t say that he invented rasengan, I would say that he discovered Ashura' s heritage.
Ashura was shown using 6 rasengans in bijuu mode in the canon manga.

I think those were bijuudama. The anime filler showed him use that weird Websack full of Rasengan but Minato's Rasengan was fashioned to mimic bijuudama.

 

[L O S T]

you're campaigning so hard for Minato, you're taking my words completely out of context. Nowhere did i say literally anybody can master FTG, and you're definitely campaigning way too hard for Minato if you honestly believe he's the only genius capable of mastering it if they ever using it. The difference between Minato and other geniuses is that he absolutely needed it.

And yet again you post something redundant. First you say indirectly that Minato had acess to the scroll since he was the hokage and now you contradict what you've just said. Anyway what you're saying is not justifiable, I stand by my claim that only rare geniuses can master FTG. If so what's stopping from people like Orochimaru from attaining it as he seeks to master every jutsu out there and praised to be genius himself, especially since he lost the title over Hokage to Minato. Why didn't the leaf teach their students of FTG if there was a war going on, there much be some prodigies in the group.

FTG is a part of Minato, he doesn't need to be grateful of it just because it was created by someone, heck Minato took it to a whole another level and was much more versatile with the space time technique. Space time techniques as we've seen in the manga need visual powers otherwise it would impossible to teleport from one place to another. Both Minato and Tobirama were skilled enough to utilise it, and I'm not saying there won't be one in the future but until we see it again, none have the capability to use the FTG.

I've also mentioned that Minato's signature technique is the rasengan, which he created himself. Other attributes of Minato is his incredible shunshin, which gave Minato his nickname, the yellow flash.

 

[davidou]

Oh I get what you're talking about, maybe in a sense but all glory goes to the creator and Minato is not the transmigrate of Ashura.

Of course, that' s a huge achievement to copy that jutsu just by looking at it.He doesn' t have sharingans that make you automatically understand things and make you look smart, he is really smart.
Even Tobirama, a creator of many strong jutsu, didn' t replicate the rasengan/bijuu bomb, even Madara didn' t replicate it with his sharingans...

He is so shiny and gutsy, he somewhat looks like Ashura and his son, he just is very smart and really talented unlike Ashura and his son.Yes, he isn' t a transmigrant and that adds to his glory.

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I think those were bijuudama. The anime filler showed him use that weird Websack full of Rasengan but Minato's Rasengan was fashioned to mimic bijuudama.

Bijuudama or rasengan it is the same technique, it just doesn' t use the same chakra, make a rasengan in bijuu mode you will have a bijuu bomb (that' s what Naruto and Ashura did), try to make a bijuu bomb in base mode and you will make a rasengan (that' s what Minato did).

Ashura using rasengan was filler

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The bijuu bomb is a particular rasengan like the quad is a particular rectangle.Ashura using a particular rasengan is canon.

 

[WalksInShadows]

And yet again you post something redundant. First you say indirectly that Minato had acess to the scroll since he was the hokage and now you contradict what you've just said. Anyway what you're saying is not justifiable, I stand by my claim that only rare geniuses can master FTG. If so what's stopping from people like Orochimaru from attaining it as he seeks to master every jutsu out there and praised to be genius himself, especially since he lost the title over Hokage to Minato. Why didn't the leaf teach their students of FTG if there was a war going on, there much be some prodigies in the group.


FTG is a part of Minato, he doesn't need to be grateful of it just because it was created by someone, heck Minato took it to a whole another level and was much more versatile with the space time technique. Space time techniques as we've seen in the manga need visual powers otherwise it would impossible to teleport from one place to another. Both Minato and Tobirama were skilled enough to utilise it, and I'm not saying there won't be one in the future but until we see it again, none have the capability to use the FTG.

no matter how redundant my argument is, it's still not any less true. And you're talking about Orochimaru like he's the only other confirmed genius in the story that had the chakra reserves or the mental capacity to learn FTG. And you still seem to be ignoring the fact that i never said learning/mastering FTG didn't take skill. I wish you could at least understand that much.

I've also mentioned that Minato's signature technique is the rasengan, which he created himself. Other attributes of Minato is his incredible shunshin, which gave Minato his nickname, the yellow flash.

Minato's signature technique would actually be FTG. I don't recall Minato acquiring the Yellow Flash moniker because of the Rasengan.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

i'd slow my roll on the praise. Minato was a super ninja, but not because he was perfectly capable of being that w/o the benefit of having easy access to justu other ppl created.

Lol its like saying all the uchiha super ninjas would be nothing without sharingan and stealing and using other people's DNA.

Chidori and Rasengan didn't make anybody a super ninja and everybody get access to very privileged info to look either, so matter how redundant it is, it's fair to point it out since those techniques are why he had that rep. I like Minato myself, but that doesn't mean i'm going to willfully ignore the facts.

Minato mastered the FTG before he became the Hokage so he didn't have the priviledged info as you're claiming here.

you're campaigning so hard for Minato, you're taking my words completely out of context. Nowhere did i say literally anybody can master FTG, and you're definitely campaigning way too hard for Minato if you honestly believe he's the only genius capable of mastering it if they ever using it. The difference between Minato and other geniuses is that he absolutely needed it.

That's where you're wrong. He mastered a technique that made the use of other techniques pointless most of the times. But he didn't only master it but took the technique to a whole new level and made it his own. Making improvements to suit his fighting style. And we don't see any other genius after him who were able to master it. Even Orochimaru whose goal is to learn all the jutsus in the world. Heck he never even dared to attack the village while Minato was around even though he held a grudge against Minato for taking the title of Hokage.

 

[L O S T]

no matter how redundant my argument is, it's still not any less true. And you're talking about Orochimaru like he's the only other confirmed genius in the story that had the chakra reserves or the mental capacity to learn FTG. And you still seem to be ignoring the fact that i never said learning/mastering FTG didn't take skill. I wish you could at least understand that much.
Minato's signature technique would actually be FTG. I don't recall Minato acquiring the Yellow Flash moniker because of the Rasengan.

@bold, Well you certainly had a funny way of stating it. Yea but Minato developed the rasengan so its kinda in his signature series attacks.

 

[~Ethereal~]

Finally, a quality thread.

 

[JStar King]

"Whoever strikes a split second earlier would win!" - Minato

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Clearly from what we've seen, Tobirama is always quicker to act, therefore more quick on his feet to strike without any hesitation. I think Tobriama would win high diff.

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Tobirama admitted that Minato is faster than him.
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[JStar King]

Of course, that' s a huge achievement to copy that jutsu just by looking at it.He doesn' t have sharingans that make you automatically understand things and make you look smart, he is really smart.
Even Tobirama, a creator of many strong jutsu, didn' t replicate the rasengan/bijuu bomb, even Madara didn' t replicate it with his sharingans...

He is so shiny and gutsy, he somewhat looks like Ashura and his son, he just is very smart and really talented unlike Ashura and his son.Yes, he isn' t a transmigrant and that adds to his glory.

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Bijuudama or rasengan it is the same technique, it just doesn' t use the same chakra, make a rasengan in bijuu mode you will have a bijuu bomb (that' s what Naruto and Ashura did), try to make a bijuu bomb in base mode and you will make a rasengan (that' s what Minato did).

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The bijuu bomb is a particular rasengan like the quad is a particular rectangle.Ashura using a particular rasengan is canon.

Those look like Truth Seeking Balls than Rasengans.

It has already been stated that Minato created the jutsu from inspiration of the Tailed Beast Bomb.

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