[Discussion] How strong prime WB and Rgoer truly were?

[Fireplay]

So lately i've been thinking about Roger and his abilities. What powers he could've had, how fast he was etc. So i've wrapped my mind around something. WB was said to be the only pirate to equal Roger.

Going by this i think it's safe to assume these two fought on many occasions and almost killed each other. Now an old, exhausted, wounded WB was able to oneshot Akainu with a quake. That got me thinking about how strong/durable Roger, WB and Garp must've been in their prime.

WB was Rogers rival and the only pirate to match him in strength so they were pretty much equal. Roger must've been able to tank those quakes that solo'd even an admiral otherwise WB should've beaten him a long ago and if these two truly did go all out against each other and bring each other to near death/extreme-diff i doubt Roger was able to dodge all of those quakes.

So how do you guys think Roger was able to pull it off? Beast Haki? Immense durability? or some other secret. Do you think in their prime these two were in a whole nother level?

I'm starting to think these two would stomp an admiral (normally i wouldn't think it's a stomp) but from what we've seen an old, exhausted and wounded WB was able to brush off Akainu and able to make him look like fodder. In his prime he should be a whole lot stronger.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Roger = Stronger than anything so far demonstrated in the series (by a long shot)
Rayleigh = Similar strength to Old Whitebeard
Gaban = Similar strength to the Admirals , however just edging them
The rest of the Roger pirates would be strong too of course.

The Whitebeard pirates would be similar. The only characters today that would be in the Whitebeard pirates at the time of Rogers execution would be Whitebeard, Blackbeard and some of the elder commanders e.g. Vista and Fossa.

Marco,Ace and Jozu are simply not old enough to have been a Pirate at the time as Ace was not born and both Marco and Jozu were still kids. Most current and MF Commanders would have similar circumstances to these.

 

[Hexuze]

On par with Naruto's talk no jutsu.

Are you pleased with my answer?

 

[Fireplay]

On par with Naruto's talk no jutsu.
Are you pleased with my answer?

Are you implying prime Roger and WB can tank TnJ?

 

[David1996]

I don't think WB rivaled Roger. It's more like he survived battles against Roger.

 

[Fireplay]

I don't think WB rivaled Roger. It's more like he survived battles against Roger.

Lol i found this hilarious XD

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

Are you implying prime Roger and WB can tank TnJ?

There is no need even to ask if those two wld waltz thru such childish techniques heck even Dofla n Croc wld tank tnj. Op villians >>>>………………
OT: 10times or more stronger than MF WB, if Shaky's Rayleigh at ild age was 100times stronger than the supanova at Sabody the first tym.

 

[Reaper]

Roger = Stronger than anything so far demonstrated in the series (by a long shot)
Rayleigh = Similar strength to Old Whitebeard
Gaban = Similar strength to the Admirals , however just edging them
The rest of the Roger pirates would be strong too of course.

The Whitebeard pirates would be similar. The only characters today that would be in the Whitebeard pirates at the time of Rogers execution would be Whitebeard, Blackbeard and some of the elder commanders e.g. Vista and Fossa.

Marco,Ace and Jozu are simply not old enough to have been a Pirate at the time as Ace was not born and both Marco and Jozu were still kids. Most current and MF Commanders would have similar circumstances to these.

What I wonder is how good WB's old crew really was.
In his memory it shows Marco to be his first crewmate which makes you think they all got wiped out or something.

 

[Olorin]

On about prime Garps level

Also I doubt it that the admirals are going to stay on their MF level, Akainu at least will get a big powerup

 

[Fujitora]

The two clearly achieved a level of strength no other achieved. WSM old WB would need mid/high diff to beat anyone, so prime Roger/WB probably need no more than mid difficulty. Stomping an admiral? Not happening

 

[TenzaZangetsu]

There is no need even to ask if those two wld waltz thru such childish techniques heck even Dofla n Croc wld tank tnj. Op villians >>>>………………
OT: 10times or more stronger than MF WB, if Shaky's Rayleigh at ild age was 100times stronger than the supanova at Sabody the first tym.

Are u kidding? Even a supersaiyan can't tank talk-no-jutsu!! Majin Buu pees his pants at the mere mention..