How Strong is Orochimaru at Full Power?

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I think he could take out MS Sasuke without Susanoo, maybe he could take him out with Susanoo, but I highly doubt it.

EMS Sasuke is stronger than him though.
 

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Now this makes me think. Kishimoto has been known to play around carefully with words throughout the series. Example being that technically, while Obito was a fake he has only spoken carefully worded truths since the very beginning. This makes me think that Orochimaru has always had some sort of limiter or handicap that has never allowed us to see his full strength. Kishimoto COULD bend stuff around and say Orochimaru was only admitting that Itachi was stronger than his CURRENT self. You could say this because people seemed to fear Orochimaru a lot more than they did Itachi.

Regardless, even so the databook stated Itachi is slightly stronger than Orochimaru but that might not remain for much longer. I think Orochimaru is due to a long awaited power up. My guess is that Orochimaru and Sasuke are about to go to Obito's now unguarded hideout. This will give Orochimaru access to all sorts of nasties. First in the list will be his new Jutsu which could be what will grant Sasuke the chance to talk to the Hokages, all who can answer the questions Sasuke asked himself. By this I mean breaking Reaper Death Seal. This will grant Orochimaru access to his soul arms again and then Impure World Resurrection. After that Orochimaru could take control of the four Hokages. To add further to this, Kishimoto mentioned the POSSIBILITY of Jiraiya and Shisui coming back since Obito's hideout holds their blood samples.

Add to this that Obito's numerous Sharingan are also unguarded so Orochimaru could empower his summons with surgically implanted Sharingan just like Kabuto did with Hashirama's DNA on Madara. To take this even further, what if Orochimaru melds Yamato and the White Hashirama clone to form a perfect clone of the first Hokage that he could use for his next body? So in summary if Orochimaru got his soul into a perfect Hashirama body, and Minato, Hiruzen, Tobirama, Hashirama, Shisui, and Jiraiya as summons with Sharingan powers ups would he not become god tier?
All of these ideas are pretty awesome. Would be cool to see some of them come to fruition.
 

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I think he could take out MS Sasuke without Susanoo, maybe he could take him out with Susanoo, but I highly doubt it.

EMS Sasuke is stronger than him though.

LMAO no 3 tomoe itachi destroyed him, and you think MS sasuke will lose smh

oro is as stronger than hiruzen, but under danzo i believe
 

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LMAO no 3 tomoe itachi destroyed him, and you think MS sasuke will lose smh

oro is as stronger than hiruzen, but under danzo i believe

3 Tomoe Itachi only got him because of Orochimaru's arrogance, and it wasn't an all out fight.

MS Sasuke w/o Susanoo is pretty much like Hebi Sasuke except for the fact that he has Amaterasu, which Orochimaru can counter.
 

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3 Tomoe Itachi only got him because of Orochimaru's arrogance, and it wasn't an all out fight.

MS Sasuke w/o Susanoo is pretty much like Hebi Sasuke except for the fact that he has Amaterasu, which Orochimaru can counter.

I don't know where you got that info from
, But the details of what happened were never revealed...

how can you say it wasn't an all out fight? He ended it before it got into an all out fight.. because that's what itachi does.. he gets you in a genjutsu at the beginning.. the same thing he did to deidara....

we do know that after that, Oro , afraid of itachi's power fleed from 3 Tomoe itachi... and went along complaining to kabuto, saying that He wish he could get itachi's body, but he's more powerful than him...

So yes, 3 tomoe itachi can screw over oro
 

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1 physical strength isn't everything and 2 he's been shown to fall for genjutsu. I think he might be a little stronger than Jiraya in Sage Mode but his real power comes from his intellect. Long as he doesn't meet a genjutsu user he can beat most the ninja in the story.

What's funny is that Orochimaru has a 5 in genjutsu according to the databook. So the only explanation is that sharingan genjutsu is much stronger than the regular genjutsu, and Itachi is too good at that for Orochimaru to compete.
 

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We don't know. He toyed around with FOUR-TAILS NARUTO with no hands and a sickly body.
 

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Tsunade > Oro>Jiraya>Tsunade.

o_O

tsunade is stronger than Orochimaru ?
wow you are smart
she couldn't kill him even with his arms sealed and jiraiya was helping her

Orochimaru with 4 kages + Senju DNA + full power is weaker than tsunade ?

you must hate the guy or you are one dumb person
 

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Kage level but considering that was before he learned all this stuff and now has high concentration of senju DNA he's prob realllly strong.
 

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Your voice reminds me of hisoka from hunter x hunter......... dat alluring speech style lol
 

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Combatwise he is not so strong, as he was easily defeated by Itachi (although he could problably kill Itachi had he stayed in his hideout, whilst sending his edo's out to kill him; at the time Oro wasn't trying to kill Itachi).
But if we look at a Shinobi's definition of strengh he is one of the strongest, as Shinobi are all about survival.
 

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Now this makes me think. Kishimoto has been known to play around carefully with words throughout the series. Example being that technically, while Obito was a fake he has only spoken carefully worded truths since the very beginning.

"The Nine-Tails attack on the Leaf Village was nothing more than a freak accident, a natural occurence"

^ Carefully worded truth? ^

Anyways, Orochimaru is Top 10 easily now, maybe even Top 5.
 

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Orochimaru is the weakest Sannin after jiraiya and Tsunade
 

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nah nah im gonna post this after it happeneds but oro will get a power up most likley i bet he was working on **** when he had no arms so when he got them he would be a boss
 

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With his hands back, he is A man with one of the most hyped ninjutsu arsenals in part 1.. someone who spent his entire life learning jutsu....at this point he was already kage level, enough to be on the level of Jiraya

Now add what he got after leaving konoha...

Regenerative properties that practically make him a pseudo immortal....cutting this man in half does nothing as he can easily regrow his body .. +


He possesses perfect edo tensei's
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1) Hashirama - His name speaks volumes..flower world, B.O.D, Wood dragon
2) Tobirama

and who knows who else... seeing that he chose to revive specifically the first , 2nd and fourth to mess with Hiruzen..

full power/healthy oro is without a doubt one of the most underated characters in the manga .... and it amazes me that people think Jiraya can take him

I agree, but excluding edo tensei I feel you're badly underrating Jiraiya, the guy's amazing. if he had had a chance to showcase his sage mode against someone other than Pain he'd be hailed as a god on here. it's sad but a technique is only hyped if it succeeds here, there are great techniques like kisame's shark bullet, the 5 kage's feats vs madara etc which are really outstanding and don't get any merit at all. Jiraiya in sage mode has goemon which can obliterate oro if he uses it right, frog song, probably frog call, swamp of the underworld, then you can add his bunshin, his toad shadow manipulation, and his barrier techniques. he's incredibly powerful in his own right. the sannin in general are a bit underrated imo, especially tsunade.
 
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