[Discussion] How strong is magellan ?

[explore]

He took down black beard and his crew with one hit. A lot of the prisoners where scared of him. Luffy and the others where running away from him.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

He took down blackbeard and his crew in one hit? If any of them bothered to strike back, Magellan would be dead by then you know.
He's not strong enough to be Blackbeard I'll tell you that for sure.

 

[Venomous Cobra]

Vice admiral level, by far one of the most overrated characters in OP

 

[explore]

He took down blackbeard and his crew in one hit? If any of them bothered to strike back, Magellan would be dead by then you know.
He's not strong enough to be Blackbeard I'll tell you that for sure.

If any of them striked back it would have not made a difference.he still would win. His poison would have stopped their attacks.

 

[TheTrueSoloGod]

Right now? Fodder.

 

[Passerby]

If any of them striked back it would have not made a difference.he still would win. His poison would have stopped their attacks.

With proper Intel Blackbeard can neg.

 

[ToshiZO]

He shat on Blackbeards entire crew, Shiryu was scared to deal with him. Shiryu was sent to deal with the Blackbeard pirates alone.

Jimbei, Crocodile, Ivankov, Luffy, etc. did not want a piece of him despite all being together they would rather run then deal with him.

Ivankov Sanji's Rayleigh/Mihawk, a high ranking revolutionary portrayed around Kuma's level, got dealt with in a matter of a few minutes.

All of this speaks for itself.

 

[Love Cook]

Well he is from the pre haki era and had a pretty damn powerful ability where if you got touched once, you're basically dead.

So I have no idea how it holds up now. What if someone with CoA touches his body. It obviously would solidify but is the poison part of the ability or is the poison a result of his ability. Would haki cancel out the the poison penetrating the skin or would it have no effect ?

And I think 'vice admiral' (even though that is a very wide range and not really a level) is a fair rank for Magellan if you consider that people like Vergo and Smoker are there too.

Va's were enough to wreck pre timeskip characters easily but don't really cut it anymore in the new world.

 

[ToshiZO]

Well he is from the pre haki era and had a pretty damn powerful ability where if you got touched once, you're basically dead.

So I have no idea how it holds up now. What if someone with CoA touches his body. It obviously would solidify but is the poison part of the ability or is the poison a result of his ability. Would haki cancel out the the poison penetrating the skin or would it have no effect ?

And I think 'vice admiral' (even though that is a very wide range and not really a level) is a fair rank for Magellan if you consider that people like Vergo and Smoker are there too.

Va's were enough to wreck pre timeskip characters easily but don't really cut it anymore in the new world.

Irrelevant since he destroyed Ivankov who should by all means be > Smoker and Vergo. He had Jimbei running away from him while Jimbei had an entire team as backup.

The era he was introduced in doesn't matter as long as he has the feat of making current M3 level characters bowing down to him (Ivankov, Jimbei), that holds no matter what.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

If any of them striked back it would have not made a difference.he still would win. His poison would have stopped their attacks.

Uhh no, they would kill him and feed them to prisoners. They were the ones that most likely beat his ass near death when one of the vice admirals reported to Sengoku that Magellan was found near death.

Blackbeard's dark matter powers would take away Magellan's poison on contact making him completely defenseless, especially when he himself doesn't have Haki too. Blackbeard is also physically stronger than Magellan since Gear 2 luffy can put Magellan on his knees.

 

[chopstickchakra]

Irrelevant since he destroyed Ivankov who should by all means be > Smoker and Vergo. He had Jimbei running away from him while Jimbei had an entire team as backup.

The era he was introduced in doesn't matter as long as he has the feat of making current M3 level characters bowing down to him (Ivankov, Jimbei), that holds no matter what.

Yeah but that wasn't current versions of any of them, he may not be as big of the threat he was at ID.

 

[ToshiZO]

Yeah but that wasn't current versions of any of them, he may not be as big of the threat he was at ID.

Any proof current versions of Jinbei and Ivankov got significantly stronger than their pre timeskip selves?

Not that it matters it's a fact pre timeskip Jinbei and Ivankov were at the least M3 level, Magellan was clearly superior, that's all that matters.

 

[Love Cook]

Irrelevant since he destroyed Ivankov who should by all means be > Smoker and Vergo. He had Jimbei running away from him while Jimbei had an entire team as backup.

The era he was introduced in doesn't matter as long as he has the feat of making current M3 level characters bowing down to him (Ivankov, Jimbei), that holds no matter what.

of course it matters dipstick, my entire post was about the question of poison can eat its way through haki and I even say that the rank of VA has devalued over time skip. So in my opinion Magellan perfectly fits there.

Jimbei and Ivankov were also plot restricted because they couldn't really fight with haki at that point in the series. If we would see them now they would more than likely have it. Also they were on a time schedule to save Ace and the prison was crumbling by the poison.

So the outcomes of a decent match between Jimbei/Ivankov vs Magellan is unknown.

If haki forms a shield against the poison, Magellan gets his ass handed. If not he might have a fighting chance against some top tier.

 

[Dęvîa Puęrî]

He shat on Blackbeards entire crew, Shiryu was scared to deal with him. Shiryu was sent to deal with the Blackbeard pirates alone.

Jimbei, Crocodile, Ivankov, Luffy, etc. did not want a piece of him despite all being together they would rather run then deal with him.

Ivankov Sanji's Rayleigh/Mihawk, a high ranking revolutionary portrayed around Kuma's level, got dealt with in a matter of a few minutes.

All of this speaks for itself.

Ivankov wasn't even damaged tho .... He tanked the hit I thought he pretended it hurt him when it didn't

 

[ArabianLuffy]

He took down black beard and his crew with one hit.

Learn the difference between hit and poison.

A lot of the prisoners where scared of him.

Naturally.

Luffy and the others where running away from him.

Also naturally.

 

[ToshiZO]

of course it matters dipstick, my entire post was about the question of poison can eat its way through haki and I even say that the rank of VA has devalued over time skip. So in my opinion Magellan perfectly fits there.

Jimbei and Ivankov were also plot restricted because they couldn't really fight with haki at that point in the series. If we would see them now they would more than likely have it. Also they were on a time schedule to save Ace and the prison was crumbling by the poison.

So the outcomes of a decent match between Jimbei/Ivankov vs Magellan is unknown.

If haki forms a shield against the poison, Magellan gets his ass handed. If not he might have a fighting chance against some top tier.

Goes both ways bud. If Magellan was portrayed superior to Ivankov pre timeskip, nothing changes post timeskip unless Ivankov trained real hard. Moot points.

@Devia Puri
All Ivankov had to do was buy some time, and yet he couldn't even manage to buy more than a few minutes. Magellan made Ivankov his bitch

 

[chopstickchakra]

Any proof current versions of Jinbei and Ivankov got significantly stronger than their pre timeskip selves?

Not that it matters it's a fact pre timeskip Jinbei and Ivankov were at the least M3 level, Magellan was clearly superior, that's all that matters.

I thought you meant the M3 when I said current gen. Current Luffy may not have near as much trouble with him and may even be able to win we don't know.

 

[ToshiZO]

I thought you meant the M3 when I said current gen. Current Luffy may not have near as much trouble with him and may even be able to win we don't know.

Current Luffy would beat Magellan imo. But him already facing his poison has a lot to do with it.

 

[sravan]

he is strong and underrated by most members here.
haki or not he can beat anyone(yes i dare saying anyone) without intel on him
I think he already unlocked haki during timeskip due to the frustration and became super strong(unable to stop the escapees)
I wonder we will see him ever again??

 

[Like Naruto]

Right now in physical body probably on crackers lvl but mentaly maybe sengoku lvl, haki smoker maybe