How strong is Hashirama with...

[Jokule67]

Strong enough to cause prime Hiruzen to used about 2% of his total power

Lmafo jeez man thats funny

 

[Jokule67]

Hashirama too damn strong to begin with.

 

[LoZelda101]

Below prime tenten

 

[King Of Pop]

still gets negged by sarada...

 

[Nick01]

stronger than sasuke weaker than naruto.

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[Aznkidd]

This is the first Shaz thread I see that isn't about Hinata.

wonder if you are the one who actually behind that impostor :lol

 

[MickNerks]

His feats? He didn't have any, it was just hype. You argued with me that the spiral zetsu's shinsuusenju was more enhanced than Sm Hashirama's shinsuusenju. And edo Hiruzen couldn't beat it, he was only able to counter the elements.
Hiruzen didn't have any feats besides taking Orochimaru's arms when he was old, besides that he basically fought nobody.

Please copy and paste the line where I said the spiral zetsu shinsuusenju was more enhanced than Hashirama's. I never said that and you are obviously twisting my words. I said that the spiral zetsu's shinsuusenju was augmented and strengthed by hashirama's chakra (Cells). The same cells that strengthed Orochimaru, Kabuto, Madara, Obito, Danzo, Etc. Basically, I was arguing that what hiruzen did was implessive because Hiruzen's chakra strength was able to match the strength of a Mokuton Construct that was enhanced by hashirama's cells. Please don't take my words out of context.

In response to you saying he doesnt have any feats, though he did have tons of feats that outshined everyone (except gaara and the sannin) in terms of scale. I should have said his Hype in part 1 outshined hashirama's hype in part 2 which makes Prime Hiruzen look stronger if you just take hype into account.

 

[Obito the supreme jin]

Below prime tenten

Who is weaker than Hinata :lol

OT: He'd be pretty damn OP.

 

[Rikudou Tobi]

Please copy and paste the line where I said the spiral zetsu shinsuusenju was more enhanced than Hashirama's. I never said that and you are obviously twisting my words. I said that the spiral zetsu's shinsuusenju was augmented and strengthed by hashirama's chakra (Cells). The same cells that strengthed Orochimaru, Kabuto, Madara, Obito, Danzo, Etc. Basically, I was arguing that what hiruzen did was implessive because Hiruzen's chakra strength was able to match the strength of a Mokuton Construct that was enhanced by hashirama's cells. Please don't take my words out of context.

Number 10.

I will try to explain to you why Hiruzen is so Powerful.

1. Name one other ninja who has MASTERY over all the 5 elemental Nature w/o the aid of a Doujutsu?
2. Name one other ninja in the databook who has maxed out scores in

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3. In the original fanbook Kishimoto states than Monkey King Emna was the most powerful summon in the series.
4. Hiruzen has been shown and hailed as the most intelligent of all Hokage.
5. Hiruzen was hailed as being stronger than

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6. Orochimaru in his prime both respected and feared Hiruzen, even admitting that a

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to him.
7. Hiruzen at an old age exhibited such powerful chakra that it

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when released
8. After being alive to witness their prime strength, Hiruzen was still comfindent he could

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9. Hiruzen is one of the few people who could

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the Full Powered Nine Tails.
10. Hiruzen was able to

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when both Tobirama and Minato failed.

But aside from those thing, Hiruzen should be considered a beast because he isnt simply well rounded in all skills, but he has COMPLETELY MASTERED every aspect of Ninja Combat that could be mastered. Even without the ability to used KKG and Dojutsu he still

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He was able to compete with a

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If you take a step back and evaluate all of Hiruzen's feats compared to other shinobi, it's easy to see that he is one of the best shinobi in the manga.

Unless it's a typo, this was what you implied.

In response to you saying he doesnt have any feats, though he did have tons of feats that outshined everyone (except gaara and the sannin) in terms of scale. I should have said his Hype in part 1 outshined hashirama's hype in part 2 which makes Prime Hiruzen look stronger if you just take hype into account.

Feats and Hype are two completely different things. I never said hiruzen never had any hype, this thread is asking why was his hype too much. I said he's shown no notable feats, screen time for use to judge for ourselves instead of praises from other shinobi that happened off panel.
The only feat he has shown is fighting Orochimaru and streaming a bunch of elements. And he didn't fight the buddah alone, all the kages where their to aid and in the end it turned out to be team Hebi/Hawk that finished the buddah in a fight and not Hiruzen.

 

[LoZelda101]

Who is weaker than Hinata :lol

OT: He'd be pretty damn OP.

Tenten > war arc hinaturd

 

[Namar]

Strong enough to cause prime Hiruzen to used about 2% of his total power

Savage

I guess we can call this thread closed because of Exaar and his one post solo god technique.