- I rate Shunsui and Ukitake above Bazz B, and Kubo said that Shunsui might of been able to beat Aizen, so Bazz is still below him for me.
We're talking about 1 on 1 battles with both sides not tired or injured. Base Aizen is arguably only comparable to Yamamoto in terms of strength without shikai, the next might be Kenpachi who's still not at Aizen level. Kenpachi took out 3 sternritter easily without shikai.. that's 3/26 Aizen can beat without KS. Base Aizen is stronger than base Ichigo who took Opie (4/26). Pepe was basically absolutely weak and would lose against anyone captain-level 1v1 (5/26). Driscoll was also cut down by Yamamoto with essentially no difficulty (6/26) That's about a quarter that Aizen beats definitively without KS. Byakuya managed to off-panel NaNaNa, Candice, and old man sternritter all at once so Aizen possibly could beat them without KS 1v1, and definitely with it (9/26). We haven't seen 2 of the sternritter making Aizen beat 9/24 undoubtedly, and likely without KS.
I'll disagree that Base Aizen lost to Isshin. It wasn't until Urahara that Aizen started transforming with Hogyoku. And I'll also disagree that Urahara is equal to Aizen. I know that Aizen said it, but I think it was an ambiguous statement. As I interpret it, he was saying that he is no longer equal to him as in existing at the level of shinigami. During their fight Aizen was careless and allowed himself to be vulnerable because he knew he would use the Hogyoku.
By base do you mean Shikai/Bankai? I just don't understand why you are throwing 'base' around. Current Kenpachi is at and above Aizen level. Pre-Muken Kenpachi was always in Shikai state, so yes, he did take them out with Shikai. But those where the Ritter who are widely considered the weakest of all SternRitter (Throw Shaz in there), not only because they got stomped, but because their abilities did seem pretty damn weak (Guizbatt had some potential with Volstandig). Ichigo took Opie out with Bankai (Granted easily). And IMO Opie is also one of the weaker SternRitter. I disagree about base Aizen beating Candice or Sanders (NaNaNa I would agree with). The Colonel was above Shikai Shunsui, who was hyped by Kubo himself to be Aizen level, so at the very least, Aizen would need Shikai to beat Sanders. I see Candice in the same ballpark as the Colonel, so same apply's for her. If the two SternRitter left where not even stronger then KS-less Aizen, there would be no point in saving them for this late in the war.
Giselle is pretty weak in straight up 1 Vs 1 I would say. However Litotto and Meninas are undoubtably stronger then Candice. And Litotto is even stronger then Meninas. Hitsugaya defeated a shrift-less and Volstandig-less Cang Du with Hollowfied boosted perfect Bankai. Yet Cang Du broke out of the Bankai with Volstandig, which puts him significantly above Hollowfied Bankai Hitsugaya. Aizen beat Pre-TS tired Hitsguaya. Soi Fon defeated base BG9, and that was only because he was par layed for enough time for her to land a direct hit with Bankai. Despite all of this, I agree that Shinigami Aizen would beat all of those SternRitter so far (Granted he would need Bankai for Cang Du, BG9 and possibly Litotto).
Beat, yes, easily? No, at lead not Cang Du, BG9 and Litotto (W/Hype). Given the fact that BG9 is a robot, he should actually be immune to KS and likely Aizen's Bankai as well, so I could actually see BG9 defeating Aizen in a 1 Vs 1 fight due to being a good counter.
Out of Chang du bg9 an mask an asnodt,mask is the only one that has a chance at beating base aizen the rest gets slaughtered..an tge moment aizen uses shikai an mask I believe the fight is over.
When I say base Aizen I'm saying without using KS. I'm just using some of these comparisons to show a way to relate Aizen to the sternritters. Obviously, some of these people have gotten stronger since Aizen, and fought Aizen weakened, but they also had him like 10v1.
1. Shinigami Aizen hit his limits, before Urahara come. Isshi beat him. As I said Urahara is superior in nearly any Base category. True, that Aizen was off guard, but that doesn't mean that Urahara still wouldn't be able to catch him, after all Urahara has inteligent on his side.
Characters like Cang Du, BG9, Mask De Masculine and Äs Nödt would have done just as well as he did against those weakened and injured Shinigami. And they are just your average SternRitters.
That's absolutely false. There is no way in hell Aizen is beating SternRitters like Ishida and Haschwalth with even Bankai, let alone Shikai. I understand its you're opinion though. Royd is stronger then Shinigami Aizen as a FACT as is Bazz-B and Gremmy. And Weizol. He is not beating Mask or Cang Du or BG9 with just Shikai either, and there are plenty more Ritters that he is not beating with just Shikai.
Base Aizen as in Shikai-less and Bankai-less Aizen? Hell no, they all destroy base Aizen, their are plenty of Ritters who destroy base Aizen. If you mean Aizen in general, then I don't think either one of the ones you mentioned stands a chance when Aizen brings out Bankai (Except for BG9).
Well we have no idea where Ishida and Haschwalth stand in terms of strength, so let's refrain from making quick judgements there.
Haschwalth should be the strongest SternRitter aside from Yhwach and maybe Ishida, and considering there are numerous Ritters that can beat Aizen, Jugram should be well above Aizen. Ishida is hyped to be near Yhwach level (Pre-Second Invasion).
lol what? You just have to let him stab you, and grab him, then its GG, and that's not really that difficult for someone with average endurance and half a brain. Or you simply use a large AoE attack. Or you simply cancel out KS with far superior Reiatsu.
I haven't seen any sternritter besides Juha who could beat Aizen. And that's not even a definite.
Lol Chang du was beat by a hitsugiya tec an bg9 was beat by soi fon missile, thoes are moves that don't come close to hurting aizen, asnodt fear will be pointless aizen is to fast for him an will get rid of him in no time,mask is the only one that stands a chance..an add the fact aizen can use kido in the 90's level he kills most of them quickly.
Well first of all, I would like to say that a Post-TS Perfected Bankai Hollowfied Hitsugaya >>> Base Aizen. And Cang Du did not use Iron. When he used Volstandig, he broke out. Are you kidding me? Soi Fon's missile would obliterate Aizen if it landed, there would be nothing left of him. Hitsguaya's Bankai would also beat Aizen if it hit. Fear is never pointless, not Volstandig Äs Nödt at least.
You are overrating Aizen WAY too much dude. Yhwach curbstomps Aizen No-Diff (I am not even joking when I say that) Aside from him,Ishida, Haschwalth, Gremmy, Royd, Bazz-B and maybe Weizol can beat Aizen.
Dude, you do realize that Yamamoto did
Bazz-B. Royd with his ultimate Quincy Spell. Äs Nödt surrounding the area with his fear eyes. Gremmy would not even have to resort to Meteor, he simply imagines he is not under the illusion anymore.
Firstly, I don't remember that ever happening in Naruto. Secondly, Aizen did that to Soi Fons Shikai. And Bambietta did that to Shinji's Shikai. And Cang Du did that to Hitsugaya's Hollowfied Bankai.
Lol perfected bankai what you mean by that? Hitsugiya still has to train a lot more to catch the big dogs like kyoraku said it will take hitsugiya 100 years to catch up an surpass his strenght an it's only been a couple of years not even close to 100,hitsugiya got stronger yea but on aizen level lol no you the only one that thinks that..lol barrgan took soi fon missile head on while trapped in hachi barrier an it did absolutely nothing to him an now somehow it's supposed to hurt aizen lol ok,an it hitting someone as fast as aizen is a no same with hitsugiya he's to slow to fight aizen...plus aizen can use level 90 kido he would beat hitsugiya without breaking a sweat,his spirtual pressure is to high for hitsugiya...an the same way bykuya got over asnodt fear aizen will do the same thing.
Hitsugaya has perfected his Bankai, during the Arrancar Arc it was incomplete. Shunsui is as strong as Aizen, so just because Hitsugaya is not as strong as Bankai Shunsui does not mean he is not stronger then Shikai Shunsui. No one said Hitsugaya is as strong as Aizen, however he's most certainly stronger then base Aizen. And what durability feats does Aizen have that puts his durability above Barraggans? None.
What Yamamoto did was not what I described. Aizen stabbed Yamamoto, not just slashed him. Furthermore, sure, he would've finished off Aizen. But he was also going to have to kill himself as well as the captains and vizards. I wouldn't exactly call that winning a fight.
He could have finished off Aizen without Suicide. He had Aizen in his grip, nothing would have stopped him from cutting Aizen to pieces right there and then. And that's not the point, point is, there are ways to counter KS, its not unbeatable like you make it out to be. Yamamoto's way is just one way to do it.
When have I ever assumed this? Breaking out of Genjutsu in Naruto either requires the character to have sufficient expertise in the area or have an outside party flow chakra through them. In Bleach, its been proven that having enough Reiatsu difference between the character and the attack nullifies the attack, Bambietta going Volstandig against Shinji's Shikai to nullify it or Cang Du going Volstandig to nullify Hitsugaya's Bankai are just some of the many examples of this.
Why don't you accept portrayal? Yes, Gremmy has limits, but nullifying Aizens Shikai is not outside of his imagination boundaries if dropping a meteor is within it. And what would hypnosis do exactly? Royd simply uses the same method that Yamamoto used to break out. Or he uses his Quincy Spell and take Aizen down without having to actually see him.
