[Discussion] How strong do you think the samurai in the wano kingdom are?

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Apparently not even the marines could conquer the wano kingdom. This makes me believe that they must have at least one admiral level samurai comparable to mihawk in strength or maybe even 2. They probably also have many other strong haki users/sword masters.Zoro thinks he is all tough but I got a feeling that when he enters the wano kingdom he will get fodderized.
 

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I was actually dissapointed when I saw those 2 samurai. They looked goofy like most characters. The Navy Admirals look serious atleast.
 

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Apparently not even the marines could conquer the wano kingdom. This makes me believe that they must have at least one admiral level samurai comparable to mihawk in strength or maybe even 2. They probably also have many other strong haki users/sword masters.Zoro thinks he is all tough but I got a feeling that when he enters the wano kingdom he will get fodderized.
whered you reasd this?
 

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Nah Zoro ain't getting fodderized. But I expect their to be at least two low Top tiers there, not comparable to Mihawk, but to Vista maybe even stronger. I expect Luffy to be like Jozu level by the time the Wano arc ends or maybe stronger and Zoro to be a little stronger than Vista. Sanji probably Doflamingo level or little stronger.
 
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Nah Zoro ain't getting fodderized. But I expect their to be at least two low Top tiers there, not comparable to Mihawk, but to Vista maybe even stronger. I expect Luffy to be like Jozu level by the time the Wano arc ends or maybe stronger and Zoro to be a little stronger than Vista. Sanji probably Doflamingo level or little stronger.
You do realize Doflamingo is stronger than Jozu and Vista, right?
 

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Nah Zoro ain't getting fodderized. But I expect their to be at least two low Top tiers there, not comparable to Mihawk, but to Vista maybe even stronger. I expect Luffy to be like Jozu level by the time the Wano arc ends or maybe stronger and Zoro to be a little stronger than Vista. Sanji probably Doflamingo level or little stronger.
Lmfao so sanji will be stronger then the captain and his first mate and would be able to push an admiral to at least mid diff on his own ? Lmfao not even (doffy>>>>>>Vista and jozu by portrayal by feats)
 

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You do realize Doflamingo is stronger than Jozu and Vista, right?
Lmfao so sanji will be stronger then the captain and his first mate and would be able to push an admiral to at least mid diff on his own ? Lmfao not even (doffy>>>>>>Vista and jozu by portrayal by feats)
WTF? So does everybody feel this way lmfao. I really did think Vista and Jozu were stronger. I mean come on, where in the hell do you guys rate Jozu and Vista then? Luffy and Law level? Jozu did manage to harm Aokiji and Mihawk had to tell Vista to stop the fight. Aokiji soloed Mingo with his hands in his pockets although he broke out of it. Now I may be wrong, but I'm not crazy for thinking these two guys are stronger.
 

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WTF? So does everybody feel this way lmfao. I really did think Vista and Jozu were stronger. I mean come on, where in the hell do you guys rate Jozu and Vista then? Luffy and Law level? Jozu did manage to harm Aokiji and Mihawk had to tell Vista to stop the fight. Aokiji soloed Mingo with his hands in his pockets although he broke out of it. Now I may be wrong, but I'm not crazy for thinking these two guys are stronger.
Doflamingo trapped Jozu in Parasite. Doflamingo was also capable of breaking out of Aokiji's ice, something Jozu couldn't do.
 

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Likely an island with 4 or 5 low top tiers and something like 10 Upper High Tiers and multiple high tier fighters, enough to kill Zoro's boredom

And no, Doflamingo is weaker than Jozu and Vista. While it could have been debatable before, the current arc more than prove this
 

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Doflamingo trapped Jozu in Parasite. Doflamingo was also capable of breaking out of Aokiji's ice, something Jozu couldn't do.
Well yeah that's true, but didn't Jozu make Aokiji bleed from his lip? And didnt Aokiji have to wait into Jozu stopped focusing to have the upper hand? Well maybe I just have a hard time believing DD is stronger than WBs second and third strongest commanders. They both held their own with Admiral level opponents, something I haven't seen DD do. And i think of parasite as relevant as Caesar one shotting Luffy with that oxygen stealing move. I feel they were just caught off guard.
 
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WTF? So does everybody feel this way lmfao. I really did think Vista and Jozu were stronger. I mean come on, where in the hell do you guys rate Jozu and Vista then? Luffy and Law level? Jozu did manage to harm Aokiji and Mihawk had to tell Vista to stop the fight. Aokiji soloed Mingo with his hands in his pockets although he broke out of it. Now I may be wrong, but I'm not crazy for thinking these two guys are stronger.
Lol besides white beard who else broke out of akoiji ice akoiji wasn't fighting either seriously .....
There has been nothing that suggest that those 2 r stronger either portrayal or feats
 

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Likely an island with 4 or 5 low top tiers and something like 10 Upper High Tiers and multiple high tier fighters, enough to kill Zoro's boredom

And no, Doflamingo is weaker than Jozu and Vista. While it could have been debatable before, the current arc more than prove this
How is Doflamingo weaker than Jozu/Vista?
 

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How is Doflamingo weaker than Jozu/Vista?
Law's haki has been shown to be strong enough to block a tough portion of Doflamingo's string. Considering the parasite move is made of a slimmer version of his string, it's safe to assume, it can't bypass strong enough haki, if haki at all and considering it aims for the neck to control the target, as long as a haki user cover his neck, the parasite is useless in a fight. In Jozu's case it's even worse considering he can cover any part of his body in diamond, so it also has to bypass the durability of the diamond product, even before bypassing his haki, even before trying to control him with the move, in other words, completely useless to him in a fight

His haki isn't that great either since he has been shown to bleed from the cutting edge of a sword

Furthermore, Law's swordsmanship has been shown to be great enough to block Doffy in close quarter combat. There is no doubt that Vista should be a much greater swordsman than Law judging by his little skirmich with Mihawk and his hype of being WB's strongest swordsman, so even in close combat, he should manhandle Doflamingo. Considering Jozu should be stronger it's even worse. Doflamingo's physical strength is also not great enough. A hakified punch barely left some bruises to Luffy's face despite it being a direct hit. Similarly, a high tier punch made him cough up blood. Jozu's physical strength and speed will end up being too much for him

He can maybe use the black knight to avoid close quarter combat for a while, but in the end he can't do much against either of them. As long as Doffy's hax is neutralized, he isn't that strong compared to them
 

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On average; Pre-skip Zoro level, Kin'emon would be around the 10th strongest maybe?

I reckon a hierarchy would be:
1. Shogun
2. Ryuma would be here if he were alive
3. Shoguns right hand man/men
4. Zoro would be here if he were a Samurai
....
9th Other foreshadowed Samurai Kin and Kan travelled with
10th Kin'emon
11th Kanjuro
 
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