[Discussion] How strong do you think Luffy is now?

[NarutoBestFanboy]

I think he is stronger than Ace was when he was alive. We have seen luffy fight toe to toe with vice admirals in fillers and even beat an old admiral in the movie. We saw Law have his way with smoker and I assume Luffy's power is comparable to Law's. So from this I think Luffy can beat most Vice Admirals but he's not yet at Admiral level. He probably would just about hold off someone like Kizaru for a little while before he recieves his whooping.

 

[Narutohokage7]

I think he needs a bit more time before he fights Admirals. I think Vice-admirals are more his level but still a tough fight.

 

[doubledude]

He's way above Vice-Admiral power man, those fillers were crap.Do you really think someone like Hody is vice-admiral level?he's surely above and Luffy beat him hard.
I think he is somewhere below Admirals but alot higher than vice-admiral level.

 

[ziggyZ]

He is a Low-High TIER. So as for comparison, he is Hancock level or between Kuma & Hancock.

 

[Arugon]

Not as strong as..........This Guy!!

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[DiddyKing]

I'd say around admiral but less experienced.

 

[ziggyZ]

I'd say around admiral but less experienced.

WHAT?!?!? Admiral? You do realise that Akainu, Aokiji, Kizaru & (probably) Fugitora can do to the SH's (right now) what Kuma did 2 years ago, right?

 

[bsims08]

Yeah he isn't even close to admiral. He is barley above vice admiral and there is a major gap between vice admiral and admiral

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

He is a Low-High TIER. So as for comparison, he is Hancock level or between Kuma & Hancock.

i would say Kuma is stronger , like you said ; however i believe he would put up a great fight and severely injure kuma , still resulting in luffy's defeat

overall i would say he is above vice admirals like smoker and dalmation , however the more focused on vice admirals are slightlu above luffy , although luffy would give them a few bruises for life

currently Aces equal

 

[ziggyZ]

i would say Kuma is stronger , like you said ; however i believe he would put up a great fight and severely injure kuma , still resulting in luffy's defeat

overall i would say he is above vice admirals like smoker and dalmation , however the more focused on vice admirals are slightlu above luffy , although luffy would give them a few bruises for life

currently Aces equal

Agreed.


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[24 12 11 to troll]

Agreed.


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i don't think we have ever fully agreed before

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[ziggyZ]

i don't think we have ever fully agreed before

XD

Never noticed that

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Never noticed that

you think that if luffy can maintain a full body vulcanised state for a long time he could even beat the vice admirals? (barely) , basically a fully body red hawk in 2nd gear

that would be epic

 

[NarutoBestFanboy]

i would say Kuma is stronger , like you said ; however i believe he would put up a great fight and severely injure kuma , still resulting in luffy's defeat

overall i would say he is above vice admirals like smoker and dalmation , however the more focused on vice admirals are slightlu above luffy , although luffy would give them a few bruises for life

currently Aces equal

Disagree with this. Law took out vice Admiral smoker and Vergo. I don't even think he broke a sweat. Luffy is obviously around the same strength as Law. However we haven't seen all the Vice Admirals yet. The only Admiral I can think of that might be sstronger than Luffy is Garp. Garp was offered a promotion before though.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Disagree with this. Law took out vice Admiral smoker and Vergo. I don't even think he broke a sweat. Luffy is obviously around the same strength as Law. However we haven't seen all the Vice Admirals yet. The only Admiral I can think of that might be sstronger than Luffy is Garp. Garp was offered a promotion before though.

law is luffy's equal , i stated luffy is above smoker (i am a smoker fanboy , i know what i am talking about when it comes to strength comparisons with him), law LOST to vergo , TWICE!

it took both smoker and law to defeat vergo once and for all , vergo was about as strong as momonga , onigumo,stainless and strawberry (the main vice admirals)


if you think garp MIGHT be stronger than luffy then luffy is clearly at yonkou level(might implies the possibility that luffy is stronger than garp , and the possibility of being equals and the possibility of grap being stronger than luffy , your point of view is very blunt)

seeing as garp was the only marine capable of cornering the roger pirates... *facepalm* , the strawhat pirates and heart pirates tagging up have a 30% chance of defeating the kaido pirates , if luffy and law where as strong as you say they are it would be an imminent 100% chance of victory mid-low difficulty (two crews vs one crew)

get your powerscaling sourted. sir.

 

[NarutoBestFanboy]

law is luffy's equal , i stated luffy is above smoker (i am a smoker fanboy , i know what i am talking about when it comes to strength comparisons with him), law LOST to vergo , TWICE!

it took both smoker and law to defeat vergo once and for all , vergo was about as strong as momonga , onigumo,stainless and strawberry (the main vice admirals)

if you think garp MIGHT be stronger than luffy then luffy is clearly at yonkou level seeing as garp was the only marine capable of cornering the roger pirates... *facepalm* , the strawhat pirates and heart pirates tagging up have a 30% chance of defeating the kaido pirates , if luffy and law where as strong as you say they are it would be an imminent 100% chance of victory mid-low difficulty (two crews vs one crew)

get your powerscaling sourted. sir.

Law was weaker in the past when he lost to Vergo. Look how much stronger the rookies have become in 2 years. The only reason Law needed help from Smoker was because Vergo had Law's heart. Yes Garp was that strong but he is old now. I doubt he's as strong as he was, though still strong.

Luffy beat ex admiral Zee in the movie and Zee would have whooped him when Zee was in his prime.

 

[24 12 11 to troll]

Law was weaker in the past when he lost to Vergo. Look how much stronger the rookies have become in 2 years. The only reason Law needed help from Smoker was because Vergo had Law's heart. Yes Garp was that strong but he is old now. I doubt he's as strong as he was, though still strong.

age hardly affects anyone in one piece , rayleigh could take on ADMIRAL kizaru at the grand old age of 10 billion

garp and sengoku knew that if garp was not restrained he could have killed akainu , thus proving that he is still above the admirals at his grand old age of 10 billion

law can not have grown a whole tear during one sail to the next island by discussing plans , he was weaker than vergo , smoker was weaker than vergo , they teamed up , then they won.

vergo only died due to the fact he let law cut him aswell , if he didn't it could have still turned out differently , and i have you know the punk hazard arc is the third in the time skip , not the arc before it as you implied that the timeskip was then giving you an excuse to say law is stronger than vergo in order to say luffy is above vice admiral level

when really you cannot justify your opinion because your opinion is proven wrong.

 

[Naruto D Luffy]

I think Luffy is strong enough to get through the new world.

 

[Totsuka No Tsurugi]

Stronger than Zoro

 

[ziggyZ]

Law was weaker in the past when he lost to Vergo. Look how much stronger the rookies have become in 2 years. The only reason Law needed help from Smoker was because Vergo had Law's heart. Yes Garp was that strong but he is old now. I doubt he's as strong as he was, though still strong.

Luffy beat ex admiral Zee in the movie and Zee would have whooped him when Zee was in his prime.

Zephyr was sick. Garp is not.

I think Luffy is strong enough to get through the new world.

"There are only two ways to survive in the NW...either go under the umbrella of an Emperor, or oppose them."
Quoted from Law.
And this quote nullifies yours. How? You say he can survive in the NW, but the fact is he can't. Hence why he needs an alliance because the only options are; being a ***** to an Emperor or fighting them and Luffy is no where near Emperor-level so that's why he teamed up with Law.
End point: Luffy is not strong enough to get through the NW.