how powerful is goku?

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he's legitimately strong in his own universe, but compared to those who can effortlessly destroy galaxies and then some he's relatively weak
 

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the power was so huge , that it killed the owner of this power once he unlocked it.
no it didnt. not once was this ever stated anywhere in the manga. meaning you made shit up

piccolo and Kaio are not true gods
they are gods. theres no such thing as a true god. your either a god or not. why would kaio be a fake god if his title is god? hes not a fake god at all. dbz wiki is fanmade. until we see the movie itself state they are fake gods, this is just bullshit hype

So how can it not mean sh!t you fool when Akira wants Goku to be God of all Saiyans? Like i said Bills is invulnerable so kami tenchi can't compete with this god
kami tenchi is the most powerful anime character. he can do anything, be anywhere and knows everything. if invulnerable is bils. only attribute then kami tenchi makes a black hole and traps him in it for eternity. again god has no meaning in dbz anymore if weaklings like kaioshin are gods.
Goku is many times faster than the speed of light! Raditz is even stated to be faster than light so imagine the speed of Goku SSJ3?
when was raditz stated as faster than light in the japanese version or the manga? where was this ever even implied? nowhere. meaning you literally just made that up out of your ass.

though unlike Goku because he is stated to be a true god in DBZ wiki.
then so is kaioshin and the title stil means nothing. if hes a "true god" then he can do anything and is omnipotent, like kami tenchi. and no one can beat omnipotents, just draw or lose.

If Goku SSJG can defeat the God of Destruction, then he will be the strongest ever
not really no. because bils probably wont be doing anything impressive. if he does destroy a galaxy the dragonballs will reverse the damage
 

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no it didnt. not once was this ever stated anywhere in the manga. meaning you made shit up

they are gods. theres no such thing as a true god. your either a god or not. why would kaio be a fake god if his title is god? hes not a fake god at all. dbz wiki is fanmade. until we see the movie itself state they are fake gods, this is just bullshit hype

kami tenchi is the most powerful anime character. he can do anything, be anywhere and knows everything. if invulnerable is bils. only attribute then kami tenchi makes a black hole and traps him in it for eternity. again god has no meaning in dbz anymore if weaklings like kaioshin are gods.
when was raditz stated as faster than light in the japanese version or the manga? where was this ever even implied? nowhere. meaning you literally just made that up out of your ass.

then so is kaioshin and the title stil means nothing. if hes a "true god" then he can do anything and is omnipotent, like kami tenchi. and no one can beat omnipotents, just draw or lose.

not really no. because bils probably wont be doing anything impressive. if he does destroy a galaxy the dragonballs will reverse the damage

On your points i have explained on the other thread except for one point on this thread. No one can beat omnipotents lol Bills is goddamn indomitable!! (impossible to subdue or defeat) the God of Destruction is invincible! Indomitable Gods>Omnipotent Gods therefore Bills>Kami Tenchi so Bills has taken the throne of the strongest Anime character of all time. It's looks like i win this debate! Game over :)
 
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On your points i have explained on the other thread except for one point on this thread. No one can beat omnipotents lol Bills is goddamn indomitable!! (impossible to subdue or defeat) the God of Destruction is invincible! Indomitable Gods>Omnipotent Gods therefore Bills>Kami Tenchi so Bills has taken the throne of the strongest Anime character of all time. It's looks like i win this debate! Game over :)

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like seriously people claim that he in ssj3 can fly 4,000 times the speed of ligth can bust the omniverse, due to power levels and power scaling.
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so seriously with no fanboyism or hype how powerful is goku? o_O
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i mean i heard of hype but this is unreal. What is goku's limits? What can he do?

over 9000!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 

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No one can beat omnipotents lol Bills is goddamn indomitable!! (impossible to subdue or defeat) the God of Destruction is invincible!
again just looking at the link you sent me i can tell already bils was not invincible and goku won the fight with him. or gogeta. omnipotent means "can do anything". omnipresent means "is everywhere". can bils destroy every timeline in creation? can he survive a black hole being created in his skull? because an omnipotent can do that you know. he could go back in time and kill bils as a baby. omnipotence. he can turn him into an apple and eat him. omnipotence. he can transport himself inside bils meaning hed have kill himself to win the fight. and omniscience means he knows everything about bils before bils himself does.
Indomitable Gods>Omnipotent Gods
they mean the same thing. omnipotents ARE impossible to supress or kill. or if they arent, can make themsleves such at will. read a goddamn dictionary. unless your also an omnipotent and even then itd only be a draw.

om·nip·o·tent
/ämˈnipətənt/
Adjective
(of a deity) Having unlimited power; able to do anything.
Noun
God.
Synonyms
almighty - all-powerful

unlimited power. CAN DO ANYTHING. that means if kami tenchi wants, he can make himself unkillable. or just kill everyone when they are babies since he created the fukin universe. that means he controls whatevers in his domain. if bils enters his reality, he becomes controlled by the god of that reality
 

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again just looking at the link you sent me i can tell already bils was not invincible and goku won the fight with him. or gogeta. omnipotent means "can do anything". omnipresent means "is everywhere". can bils destroy every timeline in creation? can he survive a black hole being created in his skull? because an omnipotent can do that you know. he could go back in time and kill bils as a baby. omnipotence. he can turn him into an apple and eat him. omnipotence. he can transport himself inside bils meaning hed have kill himself to win the fight. and omniscience means he knows everything about bils before bils himself does.

they mean the same thing. omnipotents ARE impossible to supress or kill. or if they arent, can make themsleves such at will. read a goddamn dictionary. unless your also an omnipotent and even then itd only be a draw.

om·nip·o·tent
/ämˈnipətənt/
Adjective
(of a deity) Having unlimited power; able to do anything.
Noun
God.
Synonyms
almighty - all-powerful

unlimited power. CAN DO ANYTHING. that means if kami tenchi wants, he can make himself unkillable. or just kill everyone when they are babies since he created the fukin universe. that means he controls whatevers in his domain. if bils enters his reality, he becomes controlled by the god of that reality

in·dom·i·ta·ble

/inˈdämitəbəl/Adjective: Impossible to subdue or defeat

Synonyms: invincible - tameless


in·vul·ner·a·ble

/inˈvəlnərəbəl/Adjective: Impossible to harm or damage

Synonyms: impregnable




kami tenchi can't possibly beat the God of Destruction when Bills has these too attributes. kami tenchi is not indomitable or invulnerable and when you combine these too attributes together you can't lose, only win. End of story.
 
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kami tenchi can't possibly beat the God of Destruction when Bills has these too attributes
omnipotent = can do anything. that means an omnipotent can simply make himself invulnerable by clicking his finger and summoning the unvierse's strongest physical materials like pure sun energy. what dont you get about "anything"? kami tenchi can do anything he can think of. anything! at the end of the day thats the only attribute one would need.

kami tenchi is not indomitable or invulnerable and when you combine these too attributes together you can't lose, only win
then why did bils lose at the end of the movie according to the soundtrack list? kami tenchi is anyhting he wants. that would include invulnerable. hes omnipresent meaning one would have to destroy all dimensions and all timelines to permanently kill him. but this wont happen because he controls time and space and would just will anyone he wants out of existence. kill bils when hes a baby. strip him of his powers and kill him when hes mortal. make himself not only invulnerable but omnipresent. since he can do anything, he could just make it so bils never existed in the first place. unless you can tell me bils knows time travel and can stop this from happening.
 
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