How Naruto and Sasuke can reach the level of Hashirama and Madara?

[SeriousDogg]

from absorbing plot out of the atmosphere

anor londo ftw bro

 

[foxyladyland]

Sasuke is indeed the god of Raiton, but he stopped using Raiton and his Katon wasn't better than Itachi,

Naruto will never be the god of Fuuton, maybe god of Rasengan, again, Madara can sit let Kyuubi solo Sasuke/Naruto, then go wank for Hashirama lol.

im glad you said that Naruto wont be the God of Fuuton (wind jutsu)

He Cant even use his Wind jutsu from far away.. He has too be all up close to his opponent. How embarrassing :bouncy:
guess that's balancing powers though.. Temari can use hers from far away.., but Naruto can throw his clone holding the Rasengan. XD

also That's RIGHT!! Madara had Kurama as a summon. He didn't just kidnap Kurama. He conquered him with genjutsu.
or sharingan prowess. Its a summon for Madara so its HIS ppower too. Maybe that's why Gamabunta didn't show up.. (not really) because Minato was back & HE returned as Gamabunta's rightful summoner as opposed to Naruto.

Although it was the next generation of Sanin (team 7) showcased.

OT: they really shouldn't be able too.. but the grading of their battles can reach the highest peak.:O

 

[SeriousDogg]

Sasuke will get Perfect Susanoo with the Yata mirror and the Totsuka blade, Naruto will get full kurama chakra and a powerup from the sage, most likely the creation of all worlds

Totsuka Blade Yata Mirror and Enton spam will turn Sasuke into the God of Solo, not gonna happen.

 

[Gerkak]

PS is a crock of shit, (excuse my language)

Gaara whipped a helpless Madara right out his

What are you talking about? Did you see the size of that thing the kages most have pissed their pants from seeing it.

 

[Fair Warning]

When did gaara whip madara out of this?

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My bad, i didnt see PS. But tsunade broke it :|

 

[RNITBmsage]

i am so damn tired of the "sasuke needs rinnegan" wank

 

[Draphsin]

Still not, u forget that Madara got the complete Kyuubi, which is more powerfull than Naruto himself alone.

Hahsi got Shinssusenju it's stronger than the complete Kyuubi so...

Naruto with 100% kurama would still be as strong as madara if not stronger.

Sasuke's PS would have amaterasu, it would burn shinsuusenju to the ground.

That's madara susano'o, don't compare madara with sasuke please

Im not, this is PS. Sasuke will most likely obtain PS & this is the only comparison that we have.

My bad, i didnt see PS. But tsunade broke it :|

No she didnt, Please show me a scan of tsunade breaking PS.

 

[SeriousDogg]

Naruto with 100% kurama would still be as strong as madara if not stronger.

Sasuke's PS would have amaterasu, it would burn shinsuusenju to the ground.

Madara with PS and Kyuubi>100% BM Naruto
Sasuke with PS can be interesting, because of his Enton... that can give Sasuke advantage over Naruto, A PS covered with infinite Black Flames...

 

[RNITBmsage]

some people are so stupid its unbelievable
sasuke getting time manipulation
naruto getting rinnefan ?

OT... i dont see sasuke ever beating madara

 

[Brooks]

Naruto

-Yin Chakra of Kurama(the other half of the Kyuubi Chakra)
-Rinnegan(maybe, do to having the other tailed beast Chakra)
-Highest level of Fuuton usage
-Some Uzumaki Sealing Jutsus

Sasuke

-Perfect Susanoo(equal to Tailed beast)
-Time Manipulation-4th Mangekyō Sharingan tech that the Eien no Mangekyō Sharingan grants(seen a spoiler about it)
-Yata mirror and Totsuka blade
-Elder Son Doujutsu(maybe)
-Highest level of Raiton usage
-Enton Shield(far higher than any Enton manipulation)

That's all that i can come up with at this point.

 

[Gerkak]

Obito solos

 

[SeriousDogg]

Obito solos

That's true but we talked about Obito-sama?

 

[Draphsin]

Madara with PS and Kyuubi>100% BM Naruto

50% naruto is stronger than 100% EMS madara. He can make a tbb the size of 100% kurama, he matched the combined tbbs of all the bijuu

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& the explosion was bigger than any explosion that madara has ever created with kurama.

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Going by logic, naruto can create a tbb with an explosion the size of what you see above. This tbb can be spammed as well since 50% naruto has shown that he can do so with his normal tbbs.

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Not only are these explosions large enough to obliterate susanoo, but 50% naruto tanked the juubi's tbb

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, this means that tbbs are ineffective against him. Madara's greatest feat with kurama is ineffective against naruto's BM cloak.

Here is madara's tbb explosion for reference, notice the mountains in the background which only go up to half of that explosion

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100% Naruto > 100% kurama EMS madara

Sasuke with PS can be interesting, because of his Enton... that can give Sasuke advantage over Naruto, A PS covered with infinite Black Flames...

Exactly, Sasuke with PS would be OP, think of his susanoo sword slashes. They would scatter the battlefield in amaterasu.

 

[H a n]

If they got stronger then them now.. It would be dissapointing in a way since people look up to these ninja.

 

[ClydeFrog]

Naruto: Need's the other half of Kuramas chakra, and some new Jutsu (he's been spamming variants of the Rasengan for too long) maybe he can learn some of his clans sealing techniques, and FTG from Minato.

Sasuke: Need's Rinnegan, perfect Susanoo, and if possible to extract the Totska Blade, and Yata Mirror from Itachi's Susanoo. Some mastery over his EMS would help too, people forget the first time he got to use it was against white Zetsu, only a few days have progrssed since then.

 

[SeriousDogg]

Naruto: Need's the other half of Kuramas chakra, and some new Jutsu (he's been spamming variants of the Rasengan for too long) maybe he can learn some of his clans sealing techniques, and FTG from Minato.

Sasuke: Need's Rinnegan, perfect Susanoo, and if possible to extract the Totska Blade, and Yata Mirror from Itachi's Susanoo. Some mastery over his EMS would help too, people forget the first time he got to use it was against white Zetsu, only a few days have progrssed since then.

The Sasuke u said is more OP than Rikudou Sennin himself, u know, Perfect Susano'o that wields Totsuka and Yata?

ur on hard drugs bro.

 

[Trollasaur]

Sasuke is indeed the god of Raiton, but he stopped using Raiton and his Katon wasn't better than Itachi,

Naruto will never be the god of Fuuton, maybe god of Rasengan, again, Madara can sit let Kyuubi solo Sasuke/Naruto, then go wank for Hashirama lol.

Kakashi is the best lighting user not Sauske. Kakashis lightning is so strong it cuts natural lighting.... hence the name lightning blade.

 

[SeriousDogg]

Kakashi is the best lighting user not Sauske. Kakashis lightning is so strong it cuts natural lighting.... hence the name lightning blade.

Because that's the main offense of Kakashi for his entire life,

Sasuke got so many variations of Chidori, Eisou,Nagashi,Gatana,Senbon... and Kirin, Sasuke is more talented Raiton than Kakashi, but Since he got Enton, he stopped using it, and he also stopped to use Katon...

 

[Trollasaur]

Because that's the main offense of Kakashi for his entire life,

Sasuke got so many variations of Chidori, Eisou,Nagashi,Gatana,Senbon... and Kirin, Sasuke is more talented Raiton than Kakashi, but Since he got Enton, he stopped using it, and he also stopped to use Katon...

and non of his variatons are better than Kakashis one attack, sorry.

And Kirin is excluded, it's not more powerful just more destructive, and takes alot of prep time.

 

[Brooks]

and non of his variatons are better than Kakashis one attack, sorry.

And Kirin is excluded, it's not more powerful just more destructive, and takes alot of prep time.

Huh, you're delusional.