[Discussion] How much of this is Doflamingo's fault?

[same name]

So right now Dressrosa is in utter chaos and in this week's chapter Doflamingo revealed the 12 names for which he is willing to pay 100m-500m . The total amount being more than 2.5B .

So there are civillians fighting each other , marines killing innocent citizens , ex-toys fighting their way out and corida fighters going after 'god' usopp.

But is this all doflamingo's fault? He is not actually doing anything himself , all he had done is set the stage for people to fight. Apart from using parasite on a few civillians , he is just waiting for the people to fight it out.
it is actually the people and their lust for money or their will to live that will push them to fight .

For example, if i was to hire a hitman and tell him to kill XYZ and he gets caught after doing it , he will be the 1 who will recieve the punishment , not me (assuming he doesn't rat me out ). It is a pretty similar case here , doffy has basically hired every1 on the island to kill these 12 people so it shouldn't be him who recieves punishment.

What do you guys think?

 

[Vkdude]

HAHAHAAH ... Sorry but ur sig. is really hilarious ! LMAO !

 

[zombiejesus]

no the person who hired is at fault and would be punished in usa

 

[XxLapizxLazulixX]

Well, he is FORCING people to do what he says. Its not like he is giving them good options. The only way to end the chaos is to take down the bounties. If it were to save yourself, your family, millions of dollars, who wouldn't.

 

[LoveAndAffection]

Doflamingo will walk freely if Luffy doesn't beat him up, because he's a celestial dragon. But he deserves the punishment the most imo! People are just greedy, but I don't think they'll get or need to be punished for it.

 

[AllseeingSharingan]

Well the admiral isn't going after doffy right now just simply ignoring all of his crimes. So yes it is his fault

 

[same name]

HAHAHAAH ... Sorry but ur sig. is really hilarious ! LMAO !

thx

no the person who hired is at fault and would be punished in usa

So the killer walks out free?

Well, he is FORCING people to do what he says. Its not like he is giving them good options. The only way to end the chaos is to take down the bounties. If it were to save yourself, your family, millions of dollars, who wouldn't.

Yes he is but the people are the ones doing the killing , should that make every citizen of dressrosa a wanted criminal in the offense of killing others? I mean strawhats aside , there is a king , 2 princesses and a possible king (kyros).

Doflamingo will walk freely if Luffy doesn't beat him up, because he's a celestial dragon. But he deserves the punishment the most imo! People are just greedy, but I don't think they'll get or need to be punished for it.

So true.

 

[SharinganisOP]

It is all mingo's fault. He is the one that setup the game, setup the birdcage, used parasite on people. He is clearly at fault here, and that doesn't even include anything he has done prior to the strawhats arriving in dressrosa.

 

[VongolaX]

His strings are controlling fodders too.

Why do you think he made that Riku king incident reference?

 

[narutodrama]

lolz, by your logic, if you want your wife death you just hire a professional killer, give him money to kill your wife, and then you are safe from justice? That doesn't work like that, in our world in any country, the one hiring, ordering or forcing others to kill somebody is considered as more criminal then the one who did the actual kill.

So to put it in a simple example:

Killer get's 15 years of prison because of killing somebody
The one who ordered the Killing get's 30 years of prison

So no, in basis all the civilians, marines and all other people excluding the ones who hunt for the 12 by their own will are not criminal and by law would have no consequences.

Doflamingo and his staff plus the pirates and people who turned against the 12 and want to kill them are considered as criminals, doflamingo though is like the Mafia boss hes the main bad guy.

 

[same name]

His strings are controlling fodders too.

Why do you think he made that Riku king incident reference?

yes but he is not controlling every1. You can see many citizens were free form his strings and were acting on their own accord.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

Horrible green text <.> hurts my eyes

OT:
Are you saying he shouldn't be punished at all?
Regardless there are bounty hunters their, he is still pushing people against their will to kill innocent people.
He has set everything up and let things play out, like you said, but he should still be get done for it.
If a man put a child and a serial killer in a room together and locked the door who would you punish?

 

[same name]

Horrible green text <.> hurts my eyes

OT:
Are you saying he shouldn't be punished at all?
Regardless there are bounty hunters their, he is still pushing people against their will to kill innocent people.
He has set everything up and let things play out, like you said, but he should still be get done for it.
If a man put a child and a serial killer in a room together and locked the door who would you punish?

I like green , deal with it.

Anyways i am not denying that he is a big factor to what is happening but i see many people just blaming him for everything. My point is that the people can act smartly and not follow him like dumb sheep but since they are , they should be punished with the same penalty or even more.
And as for putting a SK with a child , it's actually the SK's fault if the kid dies since he had a choice , he chose wrong.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I like green , deal with it.

Anyways i am not denying that he is a big factor to what is happening but i see many people just blaming him for everything. My point is that the people can act smartly and not follow him like dumb sheep but since they are , they should be punished with the same penalty or even more.
And as for putting a SK with a child , it's actually the SK's fault if the kid dies since he had a choice , he chose wrong.

So do I. But when i'm blinded by it, green can go f*ck itself XD
I love the way how you choose to ignore the citizens that stated in the manga they were going to try and take down Doflamingo.

....you have a really messed up sense in what is wrong and right.
The guy locking the kid and the serial killer in the room together had a choice not to do that also, even though he knew full well what the likely outcome would be.

 

[same name]

So do I. But when i'm blinded by it, green can go f*ck itself XD
I love the way how you choose to ignore the citizens that stated in the manga they were going to try and take down Doflamingo.

....you have a really messed up sense in what is wrong and right.
The guy locking the kid and the serial killer in the room together had a choice not to do that also, even though he knew full well what the likely outcome would be.

hmm maybe i will use dark green next time....

I was talking about every1 , citizens , ex-toys , corrida fighters and not just a few people. Most of them look like they are going after bounty heads.

Yes , but he did not pull the trigger , nor did he force any1 to do it. The Sk could have found a way out or waited for him to come back but why kill the child?
Tell me this , if your Gf takes you to roof of a tall building but a random guy comes and pushes you . Whose fault is you death? It is obviously the random guy's not youtr Gf's.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

hmm maybe i will use dark green next time....

I was talking about every1 , citizens , ex-toys , corrida fighters and not just a few people. Most of them look like they are going after bounty heads.

Yes , but he did not pull the trigger , nor did he force any1 to do it. The Sk could have found a way out or waited for him to come back but why kill the child?
Tell me this , if your Gf takes you to roof of a tall building but a random guy comes and pushes you . Whose fault is you death? It is obviously the random guy's not youtr Gf's.

Are you seriously arguing with me over a complete different topic?
The difference is Doflamingo resembles the man locking the kid and the serial killer together. Just relace the serial killer with the bounty hunters and the kid with the ''stars''.
Both Doflamingo and the man know what the most likely outcome is by doing that.
If my gf took me to the roof the difference is she would have had no idea that there would be a mna there ready to push me off.
It really isn't that complex to understand what is wrong and right. Just accept you've been proven wrong. Seriously, jeez <.>

 

[same name]

Are you seriously arguing with me over a complete different topic?
The difference is Doflamingo resembles the man locking the kid and the serial killer together. Just relace the serial killer with the bounty hunters and the kid with the ''stars''.
Both Doflamingo and the man know what the most likely outcome is by doing that.
If my gf took me to the roof the difference is she would have had no idea that there would be a mna there ready to push me off.
It really isn't that complex to understand what is wrong and right. Just accept you've been proven wrong. Seriously, jeez <.>

I have been saying the same thing from the beginning , i don't know where you got lost.

Anyways, that is just your opinion that the man is more responsible than the killer . You don't have to try and force it upon me. I can see it that you are just as sure about your ideal and you are not going to see it like how i see it. It's pointless to argue now and that doesn't make you right and me wrong in any way. I still think if you had a choice and you chose wrong it is your fault.
But yeah that gf example was kinda wrong.

 

[Dr Strangelove]

I have been saying the same thing from the beginning , i don't know where you got lost.

Anyways, that is just your opinion that the man is more responsible than the killer . You don't have to try and force it upon me. I can see it that you are just as sure about your ideal and you are not going to see it like how i see it. It's pointless to argue now and that doesn't make you right and me wrong in any way. I still think if you had a choice and you chose wrong it is your fault.
But yeah that gf example was kinda wrong.

Ye okay XD
Alternatively, you can't accept being wrong.
But ye, we aren't changing each others views on this any time soon.

 

[Mephew D Kensei]

Hahaha this guy is funny, So according to him Doffy isnt to blame for whats going on Dressrosa or he is just as much to blame as everyone in Dressrosa by this logic then everone in history ever found guilty of genocide were unfairly sentenced and if they themselves never actually killed some1 then they are innocent of all the deaths that occured bcoz of their actions.

I have been following Oscar Pistoreous(the SA blade runner turned valentine's killer) case and if u choose to follow he is being tried for Pre-emptive murder not just murder coz if he had thought of killing his GF then then he is a real murder but if it was not thought up then while yes he did kill some1 he can b granted lineancy and b given a lesser sentance all this bcoz it is im conspiring to kill pple that the real evil lies and we have even seen pple tried for attempted murder man to show u that its the instigators that r far more dangerous and also the killer too thats why they are also tried and sentenced.

What Doffy is doing is spreading mass hysteria and panic coupled with civil unrest and it is well known that when those things happen then a lot of pple will get hurt and many wld lose their lives looking at the numbers in DR the by day's ebd a thousand pple cld b in need of graves if this thing doffy did goes on long enough, heck to make sure the panic and hysteria actually do happen he used parasito on other pple and having them slashing away at pple and cleaving off necks sends despair even to the hooeful saints who want to believe in human better nature and when such a case happens u wld not b surprised how all forms of rational thought fly out the window and u r more likely to do things unnatural to u.

As an examole if some1 held yo child with a knife at their throat and u to save yo kid u need to kill them then im sure in yo mind u wld harbour no guilt or not as much had u just killed a man walking down the road. If u r a normal man then u wld b devastated by even that death but i tell u Doffy wldnt b.

Doffy is to me even liable to some Genocide prosecution plus those other mass hysteria and spreading panic charges.

 

[sravan]

mingo's fault and he will receive the ultimate punishment from luffy & co