How much more enjoyable would Naruto would've been without Giant Avatars

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The only major gripe I have of Naruto are the megazords, Susanoo, Kurama avatar, wood buddha ect. those coming into play really watered eveything down to a miniscule level in terms of character and power relevancy. It really leaves no imagination nor implications that other clans can compete or be on the same level without a giant avatar. I feel if the avatars had to be introduced, they should have been kept at a humanoid armor level, example Naruto's KCM cloak. Same for Susanoo, If you ask me, Madara and Sasuke would look much more badass in susanoo body armor (similar to Kurama in Boruto) than standing in a 6 story crystal nodule. Same for ribcage, it could have just fit around them measuring to the proportions of their body like a more condensed exoskeleton, but no, its one giant hub. If you ask me, fights would have been alot more interesting kept at that level, and alot of battles wouldn't have lost that ninja appeal. Example Taijutsu in susanoo humanoid body armor would have been nice to see.
 

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Definitely much more enjoyable.
 

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Kurama avatar, Susanoo, Juubi,and Rikudo charachters ruined manga.
 

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Hell yea I agree!. Susano'o samurai armor wrapped over a shinobi would've look badass.
 

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Agreed , Naruto stopped being about ninjas a long time ago
 

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I like it Pain level.
 

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The only major gripe I have of Naruto are the megazords, Susanoo, Kurama avatar, wood buddha ect. those coming into play really watered eveything down to a miniscule level in terms of character and power relevancy. It really leaves no imagination nor implications that other clans can compete or be on the same level without a giant avatar. I feel if the avatars had to be introduced, they should have been kept at a humanoid armor level, example Naruto's KCM cloak. Same for Susanoo, If you ask me, Madara and Sasuke would look much more badass in susanoo body armor (similar to Kurama in Boruto) than standing in a 6 story crystal nodule. Same for ribcage, it could have just fit around them measuring to the proportions of their body like a more condensed exoskeleton, but no, its one giant hub. If you ask me, fights would have been alot more interesting kept at that level, and alot of battles wouldn't have lost that ninja appeal. Example Taijutsu in susanoo humanoid body armor would have been nice to see.

I cud agree with that.
 

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Don't mind the avatars, although I agree they'd probably look more Badass while maintaining their awesome power.
 

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Yeah the avatars were meh. Naruto used to be about tactical fighting. The avatars turned it into some lame DBZ shit.
 

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Worth every moment.

Why? Because, it just means that everyone else just doesnt try enough as xyz person
 

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Preach..

Threads the base needs.

Cease the wanking.. start the constructI've critism for at least a year x'D
 

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It would've been enjoyable with the avatars if the author didn't force the users to repeatedly use the same feats. Was really hoping for for Enton weapons from Sasuke and some other ninjutsu from Naruto besides Rasengan variants. Hashi and Madara's fight was awesome and I haven't seen anything like that in the manga since.
 

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It's not Avatars that ruined Naruto, it's the power scaling. When one shinobi was powerful enough to stop a Village, when one shinobi could take someone down with a single glance or a finger, and etc.,

My point being is that there shouldn't be many one hit KO's, but they exist. If the series was more balanced to where you could only get a certain move in through a setup, or through tactics, then we wouldn't have this problem.
 

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It would've been enjoyable with the avatars if the author didn't force the users to repeatedly use the same feats. Was really hoping for for Enton weapons from Sasuke and some other ninjutsu from Naruto besides Rasengan variants. Hashi and Madara's fight was awesome and I haven't seen anything like that in the manga since.

Agreed, and what I loved about Madara and Hashirama battles were it incorporated alot more than just ninjutsu, we saw variations of ninja weapons amd techniques being used mixed with taijutsu, and I wish this was something that could've made its way to other battles in Naruto, mainly war arc.

It's not Avatars that ruined Naruto, it's the power scaling. When one shinobi was powerful enough to stop a Village, when one shinobi could take someone down with a single glance or a finger, and etc.,

My point being is that there shouldn't be many one hit KO's, but they exist. If the series was more balanced to where you could only get a certain move in through a setup, or through tactics, then we wouldn't have this problem.

If this isn't the damn truth, and honestly I think this statement can go in conjunction with mine. I agree, if a character can one shot a village as easily a opponent, let it be stipulations to it, most of these one shot abilities are unavoidable to the common character to take counter measures or attacks toward without being overly powerful themselves, it makes battles linear and poses the question of how he/she will win, not if.
 

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Agreed, and what I loved about Madara and Hashirama battles were it incorporated alot more than just ninjutsu, we saw variations of ninja weapons amd techniques being used mixed with taijutsu, and I wish this was something that could've made its way to other battles in Naruto, mainly war arc.



If this isn't the damn truth, and honestly I think this statement can go in conjunction with mine. I agree, if a character can one shot a village as easily a opponent, let it be stipulations to it, most of these one shot abilities are unavoidable to the common character to take counter measures or attacks toward without being overly powerful themselves, it makes battles linear and poses the question of how he/she will win, not if.

Agree

I will +Rep this post whenever I can:ls:
 

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Those things aren't a big problem, but sure, maybe keep them extremely special. Less is more. I love your armor idea.
 
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