How much damage would a Night Guy kick do to these defenses?

[TRE MERCER]

Gai > Sasuke and that makes you mad

How does Gain beat Finnegan Sasuke? Genjutsu one shots.


DAMM AUTO CORRECT GETS ON MY DAMN NERVES BRUUH I CORRECT AUTO CORRECT MORE THAN IT CORRECTS ME.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Yata tanks with what feats? :lol With what logical reasoning? :lol

And no, Gai punched Madara through a shield made of 4-5 tsbs.

Yata tanks it based on the fact that the databook says it alters its defense to counter any attack that's why.

Lol did you think you would say that and get away with it. It took 1 tsb to make the shield Gai punched through since we can see 5 orbs in the back ground. Plus he shot 5 tsb's at Gai and Minato teleported them away. Let me do the math for you Juubi Jins gets 9 tsb's

1- TSB makes up their staff
2- Gai used 6 EE's two destroy 2 TSB's.

That leaves Madara with 6 TSB's left. He then shot 5 of them at Minato which means he only had 1 left to make the sphere tsb shield. Boy you missed me with that terrible logic.

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Also Gai didn't even use EE that was a regular punch.

 

[TRE MERCER]

OHHH SNAPP why didn't i think of this??

Because that logic is wrong. EE hit two TSB's and didn't even put a crack in it[

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[KidGamer65]

Yata tanks it based on the fact that the databook says it alters its defense to counter any attack that's why.

Lol did you think you would say that and get away with it. It took 1 tsb to make the shield Gai punched through since we can see 5 orbs in the back ground. Plus he shot 5 tsb's at Gai and Minato teleported them away. Let me do the math for you Juubi Jins gets 9 tsb's

1- TSB makes up their staff
2- Gai used 6 EE's two destroy 2 TSB's.

That leaves Madara with 6 TSB's left. He then shot 5 of them at Minato which means he only had 1 left to make the sphere tsb shield. Boy you missed me with that terrible logic.

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Also Gai didn't even use EE that was a regular punch.

Altering defense to be able to block a special type of attack doesn't mean it will block said attack without fail. Please don't start. :lol.

8-5 is 3. So it's not 4-5 but it obviously isn't 1.

Oh yes. It's 4. So again, you are wrong. Gai never destroyed Gudo Dama. Putting holes in the shields that make them doesn't matter as that is damage that can be healed, which is why Obito's Gudo Dama didn't have a permanent hole in them when Naruto and Sasuke blew a hole in his shit using BD and Susanoo Arrow.

And no, that was Evening Elephant. Please don't try to debate that before you end up looking a fool.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Altering defense to be able to block a special type of attack doesn't mean it will block said attack without fail. Please don't start. :lol.

What don't you get about this Databook entry?

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Gai flies into Yata mirror and his leg gets recked. It repels anything what don't you get about ANYTHING

8-5 is 3. So it's not 4-5 but it obviously isn't 1.

Oh yes. It's 4. So again, you are wrong. Gai never destroyed Gudo Dama. Putting holes in the shields that make them doesn't matter as that is damage that can be healed, which is why Obito's Gudo Dama didn't have a permanent hole in them when Naruto and Sasuke blew a hole in his shit using BD and Susanoo Arrow.

And no, that was Evening Elephant. Please don't try to debate that before you end up looking a fool.

No you are the one that's wrong here. You said this

Evening Elephant broke a shield made of 5 Gudo Dama.

EE clashed with 2 TSB and was blocked effortlessly[

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]. It took Gai using 6 EE to bypass an TSB shield made of 2 orbs[

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] You specifically said EE broke through 5 TSB's where and when did Madara use the combination of 5 TSB's? He never did and this scan proves that[

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]. He shot 5 at minato and he had 6 remaining. Which means that the sphere he was hiding in was made up of 1 TSB orb since he still had his staff in his hand when he got punched through his TSB[

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9 orbs to start with. He used 1 to make his staff that leaves him with 8. He then used 2 more to block Gai's 6 EE's. Those 2 orbs were then crushed. 8-2=6. He shot 5 at Minato which then left him with 1 to spare. He used that last and finale TSB to create his sphere.

 

[TRE MERCER]

Also i want to point out that TSB don't come back after being destroyed. Madara got 3 tsb destroyed and none of them came back. He had 1 TSB left as shown here[

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]. He only had that 1 left because he turned his staff back into a orb.

 

[Byakuren]

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You do realize arguing with him about Yata Mirror is a losing fight. I've seen him call someone an idiot, for not siding with him on the basis that Yata Mirror doesn't make the user invincible. If the manga states so, and the databook restates it then it's fact. You can't argue this with people who can't understand that.

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[TRE MERCER]

You do realize arguing with him about Yata Mirror is a lose fight. I've seen him call someone an idiot, for not siding with him on the basis that Yata Mirror doesn't make the user invincible. If the manga states so, and the databook restates it then it's fact. You can't argue this with people who can't understand that.

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Im not serious with the Yata mirror argument im just showing him how bias people are when it comes to the databooks. He used Neji foot speed being better than part 1 Sasuke's and Rock lee because of the Databook now he trying to throw Yata mirror databook entries to the side because it doesn't benefit him.

Like i said if you agree with the Databook you agree with the Databook. If you don't agree with the Databook then don't agree with the databook you can't pick and chose which logic from the Databook you want to listen to and not listen to. Either you accept the Databook and it's logic or you don't it's as simple as that.

 

[Byakuren]

Im not serious with the Yata mirror argument im just showing him how bias people are when it comes to the databooks. He used Neji foot speed being better than part 1 Sasuke's and Rock lee because of the Databook now he trying to throw Yata mirror databook entries to the side because it doesn't benefit him.

Like i said if you agree with the Databook you agree with the Databook. If you don't agree with the Databook then don't agree with the databook you can't pick and chose which logic from the Databook you want to listen to and not listen to. Either you accept the Databook and it's logic or you don't it's as simple as that.

It isn't that simple. You can only use the databook when the manga has already shown/stated such. Relying on the databook without canonical evidence leads to hyperbole; relying on the databook with canonical evidence leads to fact. e.g. Temari can blow away the universe; hyperbole. e.g. Yata Mirror makes it's user invincible; fact. One isn't canonically stated/shown in the manga, while the other is.

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[TRE MERCER]

It isn't that simple. You can only use the databook when the manga has already shown/stated such. Relying on the databook without canonical evidence leads to hyperbole; relying on the databook with canonical evidence leads to fact. e.g. Temari can blow away the universe; hyperbole. e.g. Yata Mirror makes it's user invincible; fact. One isn't canonically stated/shown in the manga, while the other is.

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Except theres a difference. We've already seen Tamari wind style limits shown against the 3rd Raikage. We've hadn't seen Yata Mirror limits pushed.

 

[Byakuren]

Except theres a difference. We've already seen Tamari wind style limits shown against the 3rd Raikage. We've hadn't seen Yata Mirror limits pushed.

What you've stated here, has nothing to do with what I've said. Regardless if Yata Mirror hasn't went up against powerful jutsu, the manga states it's invincible, and the databook further reiterates such. Yata Mirror is invincible, and deflects any attack.

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[BlacLord™]

Which of these defenses can Night Guy breach or outright obliterate?

Also, does the user in said defense live or die?

These aren't ranked from lowest to highest, just from what comes to my mind first;

(1) V1 Ay

(2) Third Raikage w/ lightning armor

(3) Bijuu Mode Killer B

(4) Itachi Susano'o - max

(5) Gaara's sand performing its maximum barrier

(6) Hiashi's Rotation

(7) BSM Naruto

(8) PS Sasuke

(9) PS Madara

(10) Tsunade/Sakura with Byakugou

(11) Kaguya (Gai can lead up with Evening Elephant before hand)

(12) Nagato/Pein - Shinra Tensei (could it power through? What about CST?)

Just curious to hear some opinions.

1) Kills.
2) Kills.
3) Kills.
4) Destroys.
5) Blasts apart.
6) Hiashi loses balance from the shockwave, forcing Kaiten to end. Then gets eaten up by the attack.
7) Avatar? Same as 8 & 9, without... he dies.
8) Leaves a big hole, probably absorbs enough damage to just about survive the one kick.
9) Leaves a big hole, probably absorbs enough damage to just about survive the one kick.
10) Dead before Byakugou can even begin healing.
11) Immortal
12) ST gets

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[BlacLord™]

Yata Mirror is invincible, and deflects any attack.

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We got DB hyperbole and a character who earlier in the fight implied Hebi Sasuke's expertise with 3T made him better than MS Itachi... character opinions and DB hyperbole are not reliable, and only exist to hype the character/technique. Kishimoto employs character perspective, which makes it more realistic. It means characters make opinionated statements and make assessments based on only what they've witnessed, rather than just fact. Hence why BZ became invested in the idea that Kirin was unavoidable, when we know that teleporters could evade it. And hence why throughout his statements on Itachi's Susano'o and its tools, he kept saying things like "or so it seems", "so the legend goes" and "It looks like".

The guy didn't even realize Itachi was ill until he was coughing up blood and having a heart attack.

What is clear, is that it does not make him invincible. Invincibility suggests that Itachi cannot be overcomed whilst his complete Susano'o is active, which is a fallacy because:

a) Yata is attached to his Susano'o. If Susano'o is blasted away, then Yata is deactivated.
b)

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Aside from being obliterated along with S'O when Kirin hit, it's best feats are tanking 7 or so Fudas and repelling Sasuke's sword.

 

[Byakuren]

We got DB hyperbole and a character who earlier in the fight implied Hebi Sasuke's expertise with 3T made him better than MS Itachi... character opinions and DB hyperbole are not reliable, and only exist to hype the character/technique. Kishimoto employs character perspective, which makes it more realistic. It means characters make opinionated statements and make assessments based on only what they've witnessed, rather than just fact. Hence why BZ became invested in the idea that Kirin was unavoidable, when we know that teleporters could evade it. And hence why throughout his statements on Itachi's Susano'o and its tools, he kept saying things like "or so it seems", "so the legend goes" and "It looks like".

The guy didn't even realize Itachi was ill until he was coughing up blood and having a heart attack.

What is clear, is that it does not make him invincible. Invincibility suggests that Itachi cannot be overcomed whilst his complete Susano'o is active, which is a fallacy because:

a) Yata is attached to his Susano'o. If Susano'o is blasted away, then Yata is deactivated.
b)

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Aside from being obliterated along with S'O when Kirin hit, it's best feats are tanking 7 or so Fudas and repelling Sasuke's sword.

Understand what a hyperbole is before stating nonsense. Manga clarifies Yata Mirror makes its user invincible, the databook merely reassures us of this fact. Zetsu never stated Hebi Sasuke > MS Itachi. Read correctly: Spoiler You must be registered for see images What Zetsu said was that Sasuke > Itachi's imagination (i.e. Tsukuyomi) - Itachi clearly stated that only users with the same blood, and possessing the same eye (i.e. Sharingan) can overcome the technique; which is what was shown. Spoiler You must be registered for see images Kirin was unavoidable at that time period, this is undeniable. Just because a character possesses a teleportation technique, doesn't mean they're able to escape. Reaction speed is what allows a character to evade/counter, and no character in that current time period/arc could've done such; Zetsu said the same for Amaterasu, which was absolutely fact. Spoiler You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images Further: Itachi was capable of blocking Kirin due to Susano'o's application being instant. Instant > 1/10,00th of a second; Ribcage Susano'o was executed to tank Kirin. Spoiler You must be registered for see images This is again shown by the fact that Susano'o underwent a metamorphosis changing from ribcage into complete/final. Spoiler You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images Only then, were Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade shown. So your preface regarding Itachi's Susano'o being "blasted away" is blasphemous, especially in believing Yata Mirror was present when no such thing implies/hints at this merely your inefficient speculation; Yata Mirror halts any, and all initial assaults, deflecting them back at the caster. Spoiler You must be registered for see images Then there's the case of Black Zetsu who was explicitly dubbed as Kaguya's Will (i.e. possessed all of her memories), this is further shown by his betrayal against Madara. Spoiler You must be registered for see images You must be registered for see images Fact is, a goddess knowing about Yata Mirror, and Totsuka Blade alone validates the statement of invincibility Zetsu had entitled Itachi with. Everything you've said has been refuted: "Hyperbole, and inefficient character statements." That was your premise. Both of which were utterly, and completely incorrect. Itachi is invincible with Yata Mirror; the only thing that defeats said invincibility is the lack of reserves/being on his deathbed. An Edo Itachi is absolutely invincibility. It doesn't matter if you, or anyone else disagrees, because canon states otherwise (i.e. the truth).

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[Unorthodox]

Gai > Sasuke and that makes you mad

Sasuke stomps Gai lol. Looking at that cheerleader liking post lol.

 

[Byakuren]

To further shut your insubstantial argument down in regards to your statement: "a character who earlier in the fight implied Hebi Sasuke's expertise with 3T made him better than MS Itachi..": Tsukuyomi is known as the Nightmare Realm. Spoiler You must be registered for see images Nightmares are byproducts of dreams. Nightmare: noun A frightening or unpleasant dream. Dream: noun A visionary creation of the imagination Zetsu stated Sasuke exceeded Itachi's imagination (i.e. Tsukuyomi/The Nightmare Realm): Spoiler You must be registered for see images Zetsu said/implied nothing fallacious. This is fact.

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[EZQ]

I obviously said Gai >> Sasuke because sasuke is crap. In a battle Sasuke obviously wins.

 

[Unorthodox]

I obviously said Gai >> Sasuke because sasuke is crap. In a battle Sasuke obviously wins.

Your opinion is your opinion no matter how dumb.

 

[EZQ]

Your opinion is your opinion no matter how dumb.

Your sauce is your sauce

 

[Zexion~]

Domu tanks, does it really run right through CST?