How Minato got KCM

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When Minato used KCM, a lot of people pointed out how when Minato got Kurama's chakra, he died and had no time to actually fight Kurama and get control over him. A lot of people cite this while talking about the current Kakashi fiasco. However, what if people were wrong? What if there was a time where Minato was able to talk to Kurama and gain control?

This time was when the Edo Hokages were rushing to the battlefield. While Minato was heading to where Naruto was, he entered the astral plain where a host talks to the Beast and talked to Kurama. Minato has shown he has a far more enduring personality than Naruto, so perhaps his approach managed to get that half of Kurama to listen to what he had to say. He explained what was happening, and when that half realized that Tobi succeeding would mean his end, he agreed to loan Minato control in order to help put him down. This is pretty much half of the reason as to why the half of Kurama in Naruto agreed to give him control. Kurama isn't stupid, so he listened to Minato's reasoning.

Now one could argue that there isn't enough time. Well, we've seen that time passing in the Tailed Beast astral plane isn't the same as time as passing in the real world. Naruto, Sasuke, Bee and Minato himself has had conversations in their head with Beasts and no time passed whatsoever in real life, or if it did, it was miniscule. It's possible that Minato's approach to Kurama and the circumstance allowed for Minato to gain control faster because Kurama agreed to give him chakra without a fight and tug of war.

Now you could also argue that Minato couldn't have gone to the Falls of Truth in Kumo. Well, Danzo said Yagura was a Perfect Jinchuriki and it's doubtful that he went to the Falls. This shows going to the Falls and doing Killer Bee's method isn't the only way to do things, so it doesn't make this scenario impossible.

TL;DR: Minato reasoned with Kurama while traveling to the battlefield, and Kurama agreed to grant him control to eliminate a common enemy.
 

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For one, we all know how much rules matter for Edo Tensei.....OH WAIT, they don't. Plot/reason wise it isn't a farfetched thing because Minato did split up the two halves of Kurama before his death. Not to say Minato's half is a cuddly tedy bear, but Naruto's half is known to be the more evil/malefic of the two halves. It's probably not that difficult for Minato to tap in and use KCM. Again, he's an Edo, it's not like the Fox can say "No I don't wanna." Minato and his Kurama could definitely sense Naruto and his Kurama's chakra resonating from the Alliance on the battlefield.
 

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Hmmn so Minato Mid Diff's the Kyuubi,splits up his chakra,one in his body while he was about to die and head for the Death God's stomach for 16-17 years,and the other half inside Naruto for 16-17 years.

Then,when Minato was revived he talked to the Kyuubi after all this and in minutes they teamed up?
 

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cmon guys, Naruto getting full control of the kyubi power wasn't through the chakra tug'o'war,kurama gave him control willingly after seeing madara as the enemy and seeing the potency of the whole madara shit decided on the lesser of two evils
 

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Those whose souls of which are trapped in the Shinigami's belly are forced to battle each other forever:

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This right here! Though it's not directly stated in the manga. When RDS is activated that seal appears on the belly of the one who activated it and their opponents soul is transferred into that seal. Then the caster is sealed inside the belly of the Reaper.

As mentioned above this is most likely where Minato did battle with his half of Kurama and obtained KCM, though there will never be concrete proof of it since Kishi stopped explaining thing long ago.
 

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Doesn't matter, it takes away Hiruzen's credibility to the technique.
Not really.

To not know about one thing doesn't automatically discredit you. After all, anyone with advanced knowledge on something isn't likely to know absolutely everything about said thing - doesn't mean they're useless and should be discredited.

It's like saying that I speak French with a very high degree of fluency, yet I don't know every single piece of syntax; does that mean that I'm useless and should be discredited? No.

It's only when someone claims to know everything about said thing and end up being retconned that they can be discredited, but Hiruzen never did; he just told Oro what he knew.
 
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