How many people actually believe Kakashi beat Obito fair and square?

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There is no honor in a fight to the death

theres a difference between fighting dishonorably and fighting against someone whos severely weakened and not full powered. danzo using KA and making kinkaku bros kil each other is cheap and dishonorable but NOT defeating someone who is deathly sick and weakened from other factors.

If it wasn't for 10 tails you would have been dead with a hole in your chest by Kakashi.

even with no bijuus, whats kakashis plan to take on the flame barrier and gedo mazo?
who put gedo mazo on its ass? not kakashi. kakashis raikiri did jackshit to it.

Kakashi won, there's no "fairness" in a fight to the death..

so who won when obito fired off about 6 bijuudamas and kakashi wanted to basically kill himself to teleport them away, and had to be saved by naruto?
who won when obito was about to murder him with a shuriken in 608?
if theres no "fair fights" in a duel to the death then itachi lost to sasuke didnt he?

of course it was, there is nothing unfair about a 1v1, Kakashi won simple as that

so theres nothing unfair about itachi being sickly and blind? nothing unfair about kisame being at 30% chakra vs gai?

its obitos fault for relying to much on kamui he accidentally handicapped himself because he isnt good at hand to hand combat all he did through out the whole manga was kamu

and flame barrier. and katon. and chakra chains. and bijuu summoning. and genjutsu. and mazo statue. and mokuton. and izanagi. and since obito could have raped kakashi about 10 times in this fight alone then that means kakashi has no excuse for his poor performance except not knowing how to fight. after all its a fair fight and obito cut him up with ease till naruto interfered.

This would have finished Obito right then and there.

obito had about ten opportunities before that to kill kakashi. he is stronger than kakashi

lack of taijutsu wasnt on kakashis level

chapter 608. re read it. obito rapes kakashi in taijutsu

Both without kamui and Kakashi is the better ninja
Always have been.

so by restricting obito you make it seem as if kakashis stronger..nice

There's no such thing as a fair fight when it comes to ninja's if you lose you lose.

i see so itachi lost to sasuke, kimimaro lost to gaara, and sasori lost to chiyo and sakura? when you lose you lose after all.

He only beat him because they were in the kamui dimension but he beat him nonetheless.

so beating someoen whos completely exhausted and has lost half his strongest weapons means it was a fair fight and kakashi is superior? when obito could have killed him about 20 times before that if not for naruto and bees intervention? not to mention chapter 608. if handicaps arent important, didnt obito beat him fairly then?

It simply shows that Obito didn't train during the 16 year gap. He thought of himself invincible due to his haxxed Kamui/DNA and got smashed as a result.

yeah he didnt train...which is how he got good enough to have his eye powers praised by everyone, and his chakra levels surge to impossible levels...also if he was never fighting or training or using his power since his defeat to minato then HOW THE FUK DOES KONAN KNOW HOW HE DOES IT?

If we're talking about the former, Kakashi has a legitimate shot. His physical capabilities are on par with Obito's

well if we go with the non fiction obito, obito has gedo mazo, flame barrier and juubito form. exactly what can kakashi do vs either? he struggled with 2 V2 jinchurikis.

Hitting Obito will be an issue due to phasing, but considering Kakashi can just warp a shadow clone to camp in the Kamui dimension

and do....what? kakashi will be long dead via gedo mazo stepping on him before he ever formulates a chakra wasting plan like that. and obito no offence? his stakes would have raped bee if naruto didnt intervene. and his normal chains can bind up a bijuu casually.

This is, of course, assuming Obito does not have access to the Bijuu that were handed to him on a silver platter (i.e. the accumulated effort of many Akatsuki members) nor the Edo Tensei Jinchuuriki that Kabuto gifted him.

you praise obito getting power handed to him. but the fact of the matter is he has it. how he got it is now irrelevant just like kakashi without that sharingan would have been dead decades ago