How many EMS Madaras does it take to defeat the Father-son team?

[Demonic.]

Ahhh? Alright, 2014 fodder.

OT: Naruto's BM tanking PS's slash is laughable at best, considering Kurama took heavy damage from 1 Rasenshuriken. [

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[TRE MERCER]

God damn did you really have to divide my 10sentence long argument like this to make a wall of text?

The avatar wasn't destroyed by the bodyslam, since Kurama's head was slammed to the ground by Gudoudama arms (which are incredibly powerful anyway) and of consequence Naruto was hit and knocked out of BM before the rest of the avatar collided to the ground. PS's best feat is getting shattered by Chojo Kebutsu (weakened further by Bijuudamas breaking the arms before they could actually hit Susanoo). BM's best feat is surviving a Juubidama capable of destroying mountain ranges and overpower 9 Bijuudamas without losing its power.

My point it was slammed. TSB already proved they don't harm Senjutsu seeing as it didn't effect this liquid.(

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).So claiming TSB effect the avatar stop it only stopped his movement. Shattered? L0l Shinsuusenjusu has hands as big a Full Kurama. Full Kurama isn't far from the size of the leaf village as it's easily about 1-10 of the size of the village.(

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). As seen here Ps is getting hit with 20+ plus punches.(

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). With that being said that could easily flatten a village not to mention it was cought in the explosion of multiple tbbs.(

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). Even after that Ps was only half way destroyed. When did Bm survive a Juubi dama? Your talking about Juubi Lazer? The first Juubi lazer wasn't anywhere near the size of of the second one clearly.(

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).The first one isn't even bigger than Hachibi while the 2nd which whipped out mountains left a skid mark bigger than Juubi it's self.(

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How did Kurama take out 9 Bijuu? When he's apart of that 9? Not to mention Son goku wasn't even fight and Hachibi was helping him plus Shukaku wasn't there?

Naruto is already marked by Minato, so your point is moot. Once he fires a Bijuudama, Minato teleports that thing into his face. How can people forget about that?



Show me feats that supports shockwaves being capable of countering Bijuudamas.



Madara's PS has 2 katanas only.



PS is at best 2 times the size of the avatar, if we assume that Full Kurama is two times the avatar.

How is Minato going to teleport a Bijuudama into Susanoo face? Half the size stop Sasuke standing susanoo is big as Kurama avatar while it's not even standing.(

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). Sasuke is the same size as his Susanoo face.(

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). Madara who is even taller than Sasuke is about 1-3 of the size of the jewel on his Susanoo forehead.(

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). The jewel is about 1-3 the size of Madara's Ps.(

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). face which would mean Sasuke standing Susanoo which is bigger than the Kurama avatar standing on 2ft is only the size of Madara Ps face. Ps towers over Kurama.

More like to the waist. Excluding the tails, that are larger than the main body.



Except your are assuming that those are the extra large Juubilings. We see in the next panels that they aren't far larger than some shinobi fodders, meaning they aren't summon sized. Also summons aren't Juubi sized, since Gamabunta is comparable to Kurama's head + neck.



Why would Minato need to use FTG on the shockwaves if he can easily tank or outright evade them?

Those have to be extra large Juubilinks seeing as Madara isn't even half the size of Ps jewel. If they were the human size they wouldn't be as big as Perfect Susanoo hand. Yes Gamabunta was that size compared to full size Kurama. Or did you forget Kurama shrinked?.(

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Regarding Minato vs Madara:

Susanoo doesn't even have to be destroyed, Minato simply touches it with the avatar and teleports it away, shockwaves or not. Once Susanoo is teleported away, Madara is murked in mid air by the avatar's tails or outright nuked by a small Bijuudama.

Madara's arsenal bar PS is nothing before the avatar, and Minato can easily counter it. In Naruto's case, it can be restrained by Kurama's tails or nuked by jumping to the clouds (The avatar jumped so high that it was capable to caught Chomei while the latter was flying) and using Renzoku Bijuudama.

I need a scan suggesting Minato can allow the Kurama avatar to use ftg. Teleporting susanoo away not happening. Madara will be inside the susanoo that's like Minato trying to teleport someones body(Perfect Susanoo) away from there brain(Madara because he's inside the head). This scan also proves that the susanoo follows the user. Seeing as Naruto grabbed a hold of Sasuke and the Susanoo vanished as well.(

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). Naruto is going to restrain Susanoo with Kurama tails?

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Those tails won't even be able to fit around Susanoo arm let alone restain the entire Susanoo. If Naruto decides to get that close it game over. It it jumps up Madara simply slice up and send shockwaves from above how is that helping your case?

 

[Blunt]

Zi Yu, I highly doubt Minato is capable of teleporting Susano'o. It's literally connected to them, a physical manifestation of their chakra. Other than that, I'm not going to barge in your debate.

OT: 2 Madara's will suffice.

 

[warlee]

Zi Yu, I highly doubt Minato is capable of teleporting Susano'o. It's literally connected to them, a physical manifestation of their chakra. Other than that, I'm not going to barge in your debate.

OT: 2 Madara's will suffice.

garaa, naruto and onoiki did it

 

[Bronze]

garaa, naruto and onoiki did it

They removed Madara , who is the source. Not Susanoo. That's like saying Minato can teleport one's Chakra away from them.​

 

[A v i]

IMO 3 can beat them.

 

[Blunt]

garaa, naruto and onoiki did it

The user can change the Susano'o at will, making it permeable/hollow or solid. They were capable of doing that because his Susano'o only had the ribcage surrounding him and wasn't fully releasing from his body/surrounding it. They also never teleported Madara, so your point was false from the start.

Minato is not capable of teleporting Susano'o.

 

[Howling Fox]

between 5 and 9

 

[ARGUS]

The user can change the Susano'o at will, making it permeable/hollow or solid. They were capable of doing that because his Susano'o only had the ribcage surrounding him and wasn't fully releasing from his body/surrounding it. They also never teleported Madara, so your point was false from the start.

Minato is not capable of teleporting Susano'o.

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and

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Minato can teleport people and use FTG through forming the chakra link,
if Minato has formed the link between the opponents chakra, he can teleport WITH the susnaoo, but he needs the opening to teleport the user OUT of the susanoo,

so teleporting susanoo meaning that he has teleported the susnaoo & the user simply to another location, is possible,

 

[AlphaMaleLion]

LMAO you are a idiot, Madara wins this with his one and only life mid diff against both of them

 

[lanakui8]

At least 3 since 1 vs 1 they arenʻt beating Naruto or Minato.

Probably 4 since I view PS as somewhat = 100% Kurama, and Madara w/ 100% Kurama beats Naruto and Minato 1 vs 1 IMO.

 

[Minato namikaze123]

i guess it will take 4...

 

[warlee]

The user can change the Susano'o at will, making it permeable/hollow or solid. They were capable of doing that because his Susano'o only had the ribcage surrounding him and wasn't fully releasing from his body/surrounding it. They also never teleported Madara, so your point was false from the start.

Minato is not capable of teleporting Susano'o.

they separate susano from the user against madara's will. and ftg can do that too.

 

[Zee U]

God damn did you really have to divide my 10sentence long argument like this to make a wall of text?

It's not like you didn't made a wall of text before me, heh. And it's a way better method, since i can pick on your specific arguments.

My point it was slammed. TSB already proved they don't harm Senjutsu seeing as it didn't effect this liquid

TSB was proved to be unable to nullify Senjutsu, not to not being capable to harm it. Otherwise, how would have Obito won the fight againts the Susanoo with the Nunuboko if he couldn't harm it?

So claiming TSB effect the avatar stop it only stopped his movement. Shattered? L0l Shinsuusenjusu has hands as big a Full Kurama. Full Kurama isn't far from the size of the leaf village as it's easily about 1-10 of the size of the village.(

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And body slammed it into oblivion, don't know where are you trying to get at with this. How does Shinsuusenju having hands as big as a Bijuu prove that its attack is stronger than a mountain range buster which trumps anything Madara can dish out?

As seen here Ps is getting hit with 20+ plus punches.(

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). With that being said that could easily flatten a village not to mention it was cought in the explosion of multiple tbbs.(

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Yeah, thanks for proving my point. Chojo Kebutsu was also further weakened, meaning it wasn't anything impressive. As seen

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the explosion caused by Chojo Kebutsu was to the right, meaning that it took an explosion of that magnitude to destroy half of PS. Super Bijuudama obviously trumps it with this

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(BM Minato's would be half of it and Naruto's would be atleast equal, since the SM boost is humongous). Not only is the explosion much bigger, but it's way more concentrated. Chojo Kebutsu flattening a village means nothing, since a full power Chojo Kebutsu never connected with PS.

Even after that Ps was only half way destroyed. When did Bm survive a Juubi dama? Your talking about Juubi Lazer? The first Juubi lazer wasn't anywhere near the size of of the second one clearly.(

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).The first one isn't even bigger than Hachibi while the 2nd which whipped out mountains left a skid mark bigger than Juubi it's self.(

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Which further proves that a watered down Chojo Kebutsu was more than enough. Yes, i'm talking about the first Juubidama, the laser one. It being smaller than Bijuus doesn't disprove my point in any shape or form, since it's an extremely concentrated and focused attack.

How did Kurama take out 9 Bijuu? When he's apart of that 9? Not to mention Son goku wasn't even fight and Hachibi was helping him plus Shukaku wasn't there?

9 Bijuudamas, and that was relative to the prowess of the Juubidama, not to Kurama.

How is Minato going to teleport a Bijuudama into Susanoo face?

Holy shit dude, your reading comprehension isn't the best one. I was talking about Minato vs Naruto, since you mentioned the matter. Minato doesn't need to teleport a Bijuudama to PS, and he can't anyway.

Half the size stop Sasuke standing susanoo is big as Kurama avatar while it's not even standing.(

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). Sasuke is the same size as his Susanoo face.(

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). Madara who is even taller than Sasuke is about 1-3 of the size of the jewel on his Susanoo forehead.(

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). The jewel is about 1-3 the size of Madara's Ps.(

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). face which would mean Sasuke standing Susanoo which is bigger than the Kurama avatar standing on 2ft is only the size of Madara Ps face. Ps towers over Kurama.

Misconceptions, misconceptions and even more misconceptions. Let's walk through the subject.

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Sasuke's buffed V3 is showed to be a little smaller than

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bigger one, which in turn is a bit smaller than

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, since the glowing eyes you can clearly see are those of the V3. Stop overrating PS's size, it's at best two times the size of the Kurama avatar, since it's standing on two legs. Here you can further see than Kurama is bigger than

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while it's not even standing, but couching. All the evidence points to PS being 2x Kurama, not to it being a lot bigger like you are thinking right now.

Those have to be extra large Juubilinks seeing as Madara isn't even half the size of Ps jewel. If they were the human size they wouldn't be as big as Perfect Susanoo hand. Yes Gamabunta was that size compared to full size Kurama. Or did you forget Kurama shrinked?.(

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No, they aren't extra large but rather one of this

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, not summon sized but clearly larger than humans. Further proof: Madara compared to his PS'

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, as you can clearly see the jewel is around two times Madara, in turn the hand is... 5 times the size. Unless you think summons are 15 meters high, you are agreeing with me. Also, the Juubilings defeated by Madara/Hashi compared to fodders

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further showing they are like the ones that were foughting Sakura.

I need a scan suggesting Minato can allow the Kurama avatar to use ftg.

Minato can teleport to whatever his chakra is in

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to, which means teleporting things away. He uses Naruto's chakra arm as a

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between him and Sasuke. Since chakra arms (and Bijuu Mode of consequence) are made of Minato and Kurama's chakra, he can use them as a media. Again, Tobirama teleported two Kurama avatars

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Teleporting susanoo away not happening. Madara will be inside the susanoo that's like Minato trying to teleport someones body(Perfect Susanoo) away from there brain(Madara because he's inside the head). This scan also proves that the susanoo follows the user. Seeing as Naruto grabbed a hold of Sasuke and the Susanoo vanished as well.(

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Your logic is extremely flawed. Susanoo is an extension of the user's chakra and the user is separate from it, since they are two distinct entities. It's an entirely different subject from teleporting a brain away, since Madara isn't Susanoo's equivalent of brain. That scan prove nothing, since Minato didn't need to separate Susanoo from Sasuke since he was trying to save him in the fastest time possible. If you still give him the benefit of the doubt, Minato teleports Susanoo to the farthest mark possible, winning by BFR.

Those tails won't even be able to fit around Susanoo arm let alone restain the entire Susanoo. If Naruto decides to get that close it game over. It it jumps up Madara simply slice up and send shockwaves from above how is that helping your case?

Naruto doesn't need to restrain the whole Susanoo, just the arms with sword. And yes, those tails will be able to fit since they are way larger than Kurama's main body and PS's arm isn't bigger than a Bijuu, not a chance in hell. How it's game over? If the arms are restrained, what will Madara do? Insult him to death? Naruto will fire a Bijuudama to the jewel and bye bye. Shockwaves are intercepted by Renzoku Bijuudamas, and i asked you for proof a post ago: show me scans that supports that shockwaves can counter Bijuudamas.


All of the above not mentioning Ma and Pa. EMS Madara isn't beating Naruto nor Minato.

 

[Your Creepy Stalker]

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Well, that's that debate settled. Dimitri never even stood a chance.

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