How many characters has soloed Sasukes mind?

[Tartarus]

In the end Sasuke became like Orochimaru, evil, hungry for power, and pretty much copied his fighting style and summoning. If oro was at 100%, sasuke would have became the next vessel of oro.

first off you're changin your argument and, so what? Sasuke was always hungry for power, Orochimaru never changed that. Itachi is really the only one who has had influence over Sasuke. Sasuke is very different from Oro. Oro's goals are about knowledge and immortality, Sasuke's goals are about avenging his clan.

 

[Supreme Hokage]

But as I said he was consumed by his goal which was to kill Itachi, when an uchiha experiences the loss of love it then turns into an even greater hate. Itachi manipulated sasuke's mind twice at an extremely young age with the images of the ones he loved dying before his eyes.

Itachi knew that a uchiha's love turns into hate because he told sasuke that he lacks hatred & made him experience the loss of love multiple times. This growing corruption inside of sasuke was what caused him to say those things to orochimaru. He thought that he could gain enough power to kill itachi if he gave his body to oro but as you said once he found out that he was stronger then his power was no longer needed.



@Bold:speculation, but that doesnt change the fact that oro never manipulated sasuke's goals or intentions.

His plans why he needs Sasuke would bear fruition. It would conclude the whole manipulation scheme of Oro.

 

[Uchiha Style]

In the end Sasuke became like Orochimaru, evil, hungry for power, and pretty much copied his fighting style and summoning. If oro was at 100%, sasuke would have became the next vessel of oro.




Nah I'm saying lol at the end because its very funny and stupid for a character to be manipulated so easily. Also what you're saying is obviously biased and only look for the things that would justify sasuke's betrayal to the leaf and everyone he've known in the past.
It's very simple really, wise people would come up with a solution to get stronger themselves, not rely on the power of others and take upon their ideals to become like the person they admire. Otherwise they are just being controlled. Lol

Again, you showed you have zero information about about you're series....Sasuke also chose Orochimaru because the guy was simply a legendary Sannin and the strongest one out of the three....lol, look how Jiraya trained Naruto in 3 years and the rsults were shitty...do you honestly believe if Sasuke was trainned by Kakashi or trainned himself....he would have come close to showing the same powers after he was trained by Orochimaru

 

[Tartarus]

If Orochimaru says "I can give you the power to kill Itachi... But I will be taking over your body in return" and Sasuke says "YES. DEAL. LET'S DO IT." It seems like manipulation to me. Perhaps subtle manipulation, but manipulation nonetheless.
But then when Orochimaru got insanely weakened, Sasuke obviously figured he didn't need Orochimaru. That's why I say the manipulation was subtle.

I don't think Sasuke was ever planning on letting Oro get his bod considering he did hefty research before engaging Oro. It's not like he's just gonna go around telling everyone he plans on betraying Orochimaru.

 

[Uchiha Style]

Why, is there a reason not to?

No, its just you shouldn't talk about other people's skills with the way you write.

 

[Draphsin]

If Orochimaru says "I can give you the power to kill Itachi... But I will be taking over your body in return" and Sasuke says "YES. DEAL. LET'S DO IT." It seems like manipulation to me. Perhaps subtle manipulation, but manipulation nonetheless.

But that's also overconfidence on sasuke's part, sasuke wouldnt do anything with oro if he couldnt control himself after the fact. That would ruin his main objective which was to kill Itachi.

 

[HiddenSound]

But that's also overconfidence on sasuke's part, sasuke wouldnt do anything with oro if he couldnt control himself after the fact. That would ruin his main objective which was to kill Itachi.

I kinda doubt that. Early Part 2 Sasuke lived only to kill Itachi, that was the one thing he cared about. If it meant giving his body to Orochimaru, I think he would have done it.
I'll see if I can find the scans of him saying that.

 

[Supreme Hokage]

No, its just you shouldn't talk about other people's skills with the way you write.

I don't see perfection in your writing skills either, yet you pretend to be.
However that's besides the point. now back on topic.

 

[Draphsin]

I kinda doubt that. Early Part 2 Sasuke lived only to kill Itachi, that was the one thing he cared about. If it meant giving his body to Orochimaru, I think he would have done it.
I'll see if I can find the scans of him saying that.

Okay, but keep in mind sasuke did prepare before he fought orochimaru

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[The Robot With Human Hair]

In the end Sasuke became like Orochimaru, evil, hungry for power, and pretty much copied his fighting style and summoning. If oro was at 100%, sasuke would have became the next vessel of oro.

Did you miss Oro explaining that he's interested in Sasuke because Sasuke took an entirely separate path from his own?

 

[Uchiha Style]

I don't see perfection in your writing skills either, yet you pretend to be.
However that's besides the point. now back on topic.

But i never said my writing skills where anything close to perfection.

Okay, lets come back to the topic.

 

[Supreme Hokage]

But that's also overconfidence on sasuke's part, sasuke wouldnt do anything with oro if he couldnt control himself after the fact. That would ruin his main objective which was to kill Itachi.

He was willing to offer himself to Orochimaru if that will achieve his goal to have itachi killed.
He only double crossed Oro because he thought that Oro is now weaker than him, incapable to do the task at hand.

 

[HiddenSound]

Okay, but keep in mind sasuke did prepare before he fought orochimaru

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Found it

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You can read from there
I would paste the pics themselves, but I'm on my phone.
And what's your point about Sasuke preparing?

 

[Draphsin]

He was willing to offer himself to Orochimaru if that will achieve his goal to have itachi killed.
He only double crossed Oro because he thought that Oro is now weaker than him, incapable to do the task at hand.

He was always planning on betraying oro. If oro was in control then tell me how he would accomplish his goal? He cant because he wouldnt be the one with the power.

Also if you're referring to kid sasuke then that is even worse, of course adults can take advantage of children, sasuke was broken & had no family, oro would see this as an opportunity to try & control him.

 

[Draphsin]

Found it

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You can read from there
I would paste the pics themselves, but I'm on my phone.
And what's your point about Sasuke preparing?

Okay well sasuke's prep proves that he was planning on going against orochimaru, sasuke was also talking to naruto so it could've been an exaggeration on his part to try & get him to give up.

But regardless, sasuke didnt intend to completely submit to oro's will, he had a contingency plan which is implied by the prep of oro's abilities. Also i still see no reason why sasuke would give up his body because that wouldnt help him achieve his goal in any way.

 

[KGB Kakuzu]

You forgot the Uchiha Tablet....as whatever he saw on it now has him targeting the Juubi and as a result Naruto. This likely carries over to Bee.

 

[ninjabot]

I mean people that manipulated him?
I swear he's the most gullible person in narutoverse that's why he always get controlled by the next guy stronger than him.

Well, when people say that Sasuke's been manipulated they're implying that someone's controlling his actions without his consent.

That's never happened in the manga. Ever.

Each time that a character has steered Sasuke into a position that they can benefit from, it's been by dangling a carrot in front of him (so bringing up the fact that they're stronger than him doesn't really matter, since they're neither imposing their will on him, nor overpowering him. They're buttering him up).

Orochimaru promised him the strength to kill Itachi if he comes to him. So, Sasuke came. That's not manipulation, that's bargaining. And then, Sasuke threw him aside and went on his way.

Itachi has been mindraping him sense early childhood; taking advantage of his hunger for vengeance. That's manipulation true and true, but the fact that he's been literally screwing with his mindstate since he was a kid makes it find. There isn't a single ninja in this manga that would've faired better if Itachi had done the same to them, lol.

Obito wanted Sasuke to stay around as a subordinate to either cultivate his eyes to steal later, or to use him as the sacrifice for Rinne Tensei so that Obito himself wouldn't have to die... so he promised him a bijuu to aid in his destruction of Konoha (goes back to the same situation with Orochimaru).

In other words, Sasuke's allegiances lie with whomever he believes he can benefit from the most. And it's not like he's gotten screwed over yet.

 

[ntel]

I like how everybody but Naruto was able to use TnJ on Sasuke.

Him and Sasuke are rivals..he would never acknowledge him

 

[saw2097]

Sasuke is easily the most manipulated character I have ever seen, he keeps changing his goals and his new goal always falls right into whatever the last guy who TNJ him happens to need him to follow.

Orochimaru TNJ him and he starts pursuing power, which is what Oro needed him to do.

Itachi TNJ him into pursuing revenge, exactly what he wanted him to do.

Obito TNJ him into pursuing revenge against the leaf.

Hashirama TNJ him into protecting the leaf, exactly what he wanted him to do.

Every time he gets TNJ he does whatever the guy who TNJ him needs him to do, like others have said the only person to try to TNJ him and fail is Naruto ironically.

 

[Minator93]

In the Part 1 i.e. during Chunnin Exams his mind was soloed by Naruto U_U