How Madara does not have eyes?

[NarutoWA]

Somebody has got to explain this :
Madara was Edo tenseid to the real world by Kabuto. By some operations or so, He got Hashirama's powers. But his edo tensei form had both his Sharingan and Rinnegan and he was able to toggle between them according to his will.

The first question is :
Can every Rinnegan be switched to Sharingan?
And how the hell did madara toggle between the eyes? You can have only one kind of eyes at once. Edo tensei is Still unclear to me.

And the second one:
After being made alive by Jetsu and Obito, How was Madara Blind (had no eyes) while he had his Lungs, Heart, Nose and all?

 

[TrollKing]

Kishi logic saying his body decayed(give him a new body then). Madara eyes still alive(then no need to make him new ones)

It appears rinnegan doesn't cancel ems tech, so why bother to switch back to a weak eye?

 

[Cauzing]

madara never switched back from rinnegan to sharingan.
And as Edo tensei you have your original eyes. Itachi also had them despite sasuke having them implanted already.

 

[Limbo]

Somebody has got to explain this :
Madara was Edo tenseid to the real world by Kabuto. By some operations or so, He got Hashirama's powers. But his edo tensei form had both his Sharingan and Rinnegan and he was able to toggle between them according to his will.

The first question is :
Can every Rinnegan be switched to Sharingan?
And how the hell did madara toggle between the eyes? You can have only one kind of eyes at once. Edo tensei is Still unclear to me.

And the second one:
After being made alive by Jetsu and Obito, How was Madara Blind (had no eyes) while he had his Lungs, Heart, Nose and all?

First question: the edo rinegan was a fake one, he could also switch since he already had ems, just like how ms can switch to 3 tomoe

second one: the rinnegan was a fake, a fake rinnegan cannot become real,

 

[msbishop92]

Edo Tensei powers are infinite and unrestricted. He bestowed his Rinnegan eyes to Nagato, but we know that Obito stole them from his corpse after defeating Konan. These are the only Rinnegan. By coming back to life it is impossible that he could still have them since Obito was using one and the other was in the hideout.

 

[NarutoWA]

First question: the edo rinegan was a fake one, he could also switch since he already had ems, just like how ms can switch to 3 tomoe

second one: the rinnegan was a fake, a fake rinnegan cannot become real,

So he had real lungs when dead and fake rinnegan??

 

[lordmadarauchiha]

Somebody has got to explain this :
Madara was Edo tenseid to the real world by Kabuto. By some operations or so, He got Hashirama's powers. But his edo tensei form had both his Sharingan and Rinnegan and he was able to toggle between them according to his will.

The first question is :
Can every Rinnegan be switched to Sharingan?
And how the hell did madara toggle between the eyes? You can have only one kind of eyes at once. Edo tensei is Still unclear to me.

And the second one:
After being made alive by Jetsu and Obito, How was Madara Blind (had no eyes) while he had his Lungs, Heart, Nose and all?

Because he awakened the rennigan so he could switch between both eyes.

 

[Umari Senju]

madara never switched back from rinnegan to sharingan.
And as Edo tensei you have your original eyes. Itachi also had them despite sasuke having them implanted already.

I think the rules of Edo Tensei are you are revived in the condition/state you died in. For Itachi, he still had his eyes when he died thus he was revived with them. Same for Nagato.

This doesn't apply to Madara as his eyes were removed to have Nagato use them prior to dying so by all rights his edo form should have been blind too. Maybe it had to do with kabuto grafting Hashirama's face into his chest. Maybe it allowed the edo to regenerate the missing eyes?

First question: the edo rinegan was a fake one, he could also switch since he already had ems, just like how ms can switch to 3 tomoe

second one: the rinnegan was a fake, a fake rinnegan cannot become real,

For a fake Rinnegan those Rinnegan techs (Absorbing Naruto's Rasenshuriken and Kage's jutsu along with Susanno) they sure seemed real.

 

[Xāvî1]

Somebody has got to explain this :
Madara was Edo tenseid to the real world by Kabuto. By some operations or so, He got Hashirama's powers. But his edo tensei form had both his Sharingan and Rinnegan and he was able to toggle between them according to his will.

The first question is :
Can every Rinnegan be switched to Sharingan?
And how the hell did madara toggle between the eyes? You can have only one kind of eyes at once. Edo tensei is Still unclear to me.

And the second one:
After being made alive by Jetsu and Obito, How was Madara Blind (had no eyes) while he had his Lungs, Heart, Nose and all?

Answer no-1: as edo tensei the user is able to use all kinds of jutsu when he was alive. that is how he was able to switch between eyes.
Answer no-2: after revived by rinnetensei madara was blind because he gave his real eyes (the rinnegans) to nagato before his death. so he was blind before he died..

 

[TrollKing]

I think the rules of Edo Tensei are you are revived in the condition/state you died in. For Itachi, he still had his eyes when he died thus he was revived with them. Same for Nagato.

This doesn't apply to Madara as his eyes were removed to have Nagato use them prior to dying so by all rights his edo form should have been blind too. Maybe it had to do with kabuto grafting Hashirama's face into his chest. Maybe it allowed the edo to regenerate the missing eyes?



For a fake Rinnegan those Rinnegan techs (Absorbing Naruto's Rasenshuriken and Kage's jutsu along with Susanno) they sure seemed real.

He died a very old man

 

[Bluedevil]

This is just like the "How does Edo Itachi have eyes?"

Edotesnsi brings the target back to life with any abilities they would of had in life. So Haku had Ice release when he died and even though the person he "possessed" did not Haku can. This also includes Madara because he had EMS and Rinnigan abilities when he died. So when he was revived he had those eyes. But Kabuto also enhanced the body of Edotensi by giving him Harishima cells... this is why he could use wood release and had enhanced sensing abilities.
Now when Madara came back to life via-obito, his eyes were being preserved somewhere else. So when he came back to life he did not have any eyes. (Kish's logic)

This logic is a little flawed though because if your body is being "Cloned" from the small amount of DNA that your edo tensi utilizes then your spirit posses that body this would mean that your eyes would be cloned as well. But probally for the sake of the story he said it would be better if he did not have any eyes.

 

[NarutoWA]

This is just like the "How does Edo Itachi have eyes?"

Edotesnsi brings the target back to life with any abilities they would of had in life. So Haku had Ice release when he died and even though the person he "possessed" did not Haku can. This also includes Madara because he had EMS and Rinnigan abilities when he died. So when he was revived he had those eyes. But Kabuto also enhanced the body of Edotensi by giving him Harishima cells... this is why he could use wood release and had enhanced sensing abilities.
Now when Madara came back to life via-obito, his eyes were being preserved somewhere else. So when he came back to life he did not have any eyes. (Kish's logic)

This logic is a little flawed though because if your body is being "Cloned" from the small amount of DNA that your edo tensi utilizes then your spirit posses that body this would mean that your eyes would be cloned as well. But probally for the sake of the story he said it would be better if he did not have any eyes.

Having eyes and switching between two forms are quite different.
Also, If you are revived why only your eye is missing?

 

[Ame no kage]

lol you know what's funny, the first and madara was revived young or in their peak. While poor 3rd was revived in the same state he died in xD.....plotnojutsu......Both hashi and dara died old xD kishinojutsu

 

[SkyGodHorus]

Somebody has got to explain this :
Madara was Edo tenseid to the real world by Kabuto. By some operations or so, He got Hashirama's powers. But his edo tensei form had both his Sharingan and Rinnegan and he was able to toggle between them according to his will.

It may have been an attribute of Edo Tensei, the fact that they are basically the same eyes. Rinnegan evolved from his EMS and the nine tomoe Rinnegan possesses tomoes and colors of the sharingan. Or that he was just fast and could alternate between the two.

The first question is :
Can every Rinnegan be switched to Sharingan?

The theory behind Pein not being able to use the EMS is that Madara left it in Rinnegan mode and that when doujutsu eyes are transplanted, they stay in the state they were transplanted in unless the bearer is an Uchiha. This happened with Obito's sharingan when he gave it to Kakashi as Kakashi was never able to turn it off and it stayed in the three tomoe form.

And the second one:
After being made alive by Jetsu and Obito, How was Madara Blind (had no eyes) while he had his Lungs, Heart, Nose and all?

Madara died with his original Rinnegans in Nagato and had to reclaim them from Obito and Zetsu. The edo ones he had were fake and created via the reality manipulation of Edo Tensei. Decades of upgrading his sharingn, being fused with Hashirama's DNA and at death's door as an old man unlocked his Ocoular powers, which housed Hagoromo's chakra and thus were likely too powerful for Hashirama's cells to regenerate.

 

[dms_kakashi]

his lungs wasnt there. while his ocular eye was still there

 

[TrollKing]

lol you know what's funny, the first and madara was revived young or in their peak. While poor 3rd was revived in the same state he died in xD.....plotnojutsu......Both hashi and dara died old xD kishinojutsu

You are very bright

 

[SkyGodHorus]

lol you know what's funny, the first and madara was revived young or in their peak. While poor 3rd was revived in the same state he died in xD.....plotnojutsu......Both hashi and dara died old xD kishinojutsu

Orochimaru probably left him old to mock him, did not have the supplies, preparation or time to revive him in his prime like Madara or possibly feared him.

 

[Ame no kage]

Orochimaru probably left him old to mock him, did not have the supplies, preparation or time to revive him in his prime like Madara or possibly feared him.

preparation or time? you do realize they were revived at the same time and with the same zetsu's -___- in regards to hashi and gramps 3rd

 

[NarutoWA]

lol you know what's funny, the first and madara was revived young or in their peak. While poor 3rd was revived in the same state he died in xD.....plotnojutsu......Both hashi and dara died old xD kishinojutsu

I've got a reason :
Rest everyone was dead in normal way. They were brought from, say, neverland.
But Hiruzen, was caught and held by god of death(seal)