How isn't minato top 10?

[ShiroT]

Not in order
Tobirama
Naruto
Hashirama
Sasuke
Oro
Third riakage
Bee
Itachi
Kisame
Guy
Kaguya
Madara
Obito
Kabuto
Hiruzen
Jiraiya
Deidara
Nagato
I could name more if you want

I only agree with bold. Which obito? ksm kabuto is debatable. I already excluded itachi and sage family in op. everything else is bias. none of them have counter to ftg. 3rd raikage loses the same way he did to naruto

 

[XxTsukyomiXx]

no. you said you wont post because people will disagree but your philosophy is f people who disagree . . . .

Oh I understand. You want me to post my list and f who disagrees Lol. I wont include dead Otosuki
1.Itachi(invincible)
2.Kaguya
3.Madara
4.Sasuke
5.Naruto
6.Hashirama
honestly I don't know for the rest right now. I just don't feel like Minato is top ten

 

[ShiroT]

1 Overlawd Kaguya
2 Hagaromo
2 Hamura
4 Naruto (Ashura)
4 Sasuke (Indra)
6 Fodara
7 Hashirama
8 Obito
9 Orochimaru ( with edo)
10 Nagato

ex 11 Tobirama
12 Kabuto
13 Itachi
14 Minato
15 Hiruzen



You're welcome

excluding those in op that puts minato in 10th. im not even going to argue why's he is > then some of those people especially sakura

 

[ShiroT]

Oh I understand. You want me to post my list and f who disagrees Lol. I wont include dead Otosuki
1.Itachi(invincible)
2.Kaguya
3.Madara
4.Sasuke
5.Naruto
6.Hashirama
honestly I don't know for the rest right now. I just don't feel like Minato is top ten

so you have no reason other then you dont like him. and kaguya is apart of sages family

 

[ShiroT]

Sasuke
Naruto
Madara
Obito
Nagato
Hashirama
Tobirama
Kabuto
Orochimaru
Jiraiya

Minato comes at 11 or 12 tho.
(I really like him, so this is no bash)

how does tobirama, orochimaru, or jirairya beat him?

 

[XxTsukyomiXx]

so you have no reason other then you dont like him. and kaguya is apart of sages family

dead otsuki and Minato makes number six at my 10 top favs. I like him very much

 

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[Ryuma720]

He's #7 on my Top 10

 

[Sennin of Logic]

He is. Definitely without Hagoromo's family taken into account.

 

[Vapid]

how does tobirama, orochimaru, or jirairya beat him?

How does Tobirama beat him? Arguable. How does Jiraiya beat him? Arguable as well. How does Orochimaru beat him? Are you dense? An unrestricted Orochimaru would neg Minato (unrestricted = ET included, Hydra Technique included, and current White Zetsu body included).

 

[ShiroT]

How does Tobirama beat him? Arguable. How does Jiraiya beat him? Arguable as well. How does Orochimaru beat him? Are you dense? An unrestricted Orochimaru would neg Minato (unrestricted = ET included, Hydra Technique included, and current White Zetsu body included).

1v1 there is no edo tensei. orochimaru has no feats with white zetsu body, so your saying he wins with hype. ftg > jirairya. summonings are excluded because nothing good will come if they try to summon from the same place really. minato still has sm while jirairya wouldnt have enough time to go into it. all his longe range jutsus are useless.

there have been many threads on this. while tobirama(or adleast more versatile) may be the better overall ninja without edo tensei, minato has the better arsenal again tobirama. also minato is faster giving him a huge edge

 

[ninjastormgenaration33]

1.Kaguya
2.Madara
3.Sasuke/Naruto
4.Naruto/Sasuke
5.Obito (Double MS)
6.Hashirama
7.Itachi
8.Nagato
9.Tobirama
10.Minato
(Excluding Sages Fam besides Kayguya since she's alive,

 

[MickNerks]

orochimaru has no counter to ftg
minato > tobi
ftg > gaara
dsm kabuto is debatable

thats 6

base minato also has sm

Orochimaru doesn't need a counter, he is impervious to it. He has zetsu's body, oral rebirth, and if he is in his true form and minato cuts him, minato will be paralyzed by his venomous blood.

Minato is stronger than TOBI, but minato is not stronger than 6 paths Rinn Obito

FTG is useless against a opponent like Gaara. Gaara's long distance attacks in comnination with his sand of shield and armor of sand make him minato's worst nightmare.

 

[Vapid]

1v1 there is no edo tensei. orochimaru has no feats with white zetsu body, so your saying he wins with hype. ftg > jirairya. summonings are excluded because nothing good will come if they try to summon from the same place really. minato still has sm while jirairya wouldnt have enough time to go into it. all his longe range jutsus are useless.

there have been many threads on this. while tobirama(or adleast more versatile) may be the better overall ninja without edo tensei, minato has the better arsenal again tobirama. also minato is faster giving him a huge edge

In a 1v1, there is Edo Tensei. In a 1v1 with Minato, however, Orochimaru wouldn't need Edo Tensei anyway.

And like I said, rather or not Minato can beat Tobirama or Jiraiya is arguable; I won't argue about those two scenarios.

 

[ShiroT]

Orochimaru doesn't need a counter, he is impervious to it. He has zetsu's body, oral rebirth, and if he is in his true form and minato cuts him, minato will be paralyzed by his venomous blood.

Minato is stronger than TOBI, but minato is not stronger than 6 paths Rinn Obito

FTG is useless against a opponent like Gaara. Gaara's long distance attacks in comnination with his sand of shield and armor of sand make him minato's worst nightmare.

speed is gaara's weekness otherwise he wouldve destroyed lee. minato is faster then lee with ftg. minato is faster then lee footspeed. minato even faster and stronger with sm. gaara gets speed blitzed doesnt matter if he has long distances attacks minato is to fast. raikage coulnt even hit him and gaara gets destroyed by him. rasengan wrecks sand shield also minato can summon his toads

orochimaru with zetsu body is featless. he hasnt shown anything so saying that holds no weight. he also doesnt have endless chakra. he keeps doing oral rebirth and he will tire out and lose. you still have yet to explain how he hits a opponent with ftg and who's footspeed is faster then his.

 

[spartan20]

Minato is top 10 how can you defend an attack when you dont know that it is coming nor the direction and how can you hit something that is not there

 

[ShiroT]

In a 1v1, there is Edo Tensei. In a 1v1 with Minato, however, Orochimaru wouldn't need Edo Tensei anyway.

And like I said, rather or not Minato can beat Tobirama or Jiraiya is arguable; I won't argue about those two scenarios.

edo tensei is excluded because it is to much of a headache. how does he win without it exactly

 

[ugh]

0.Super overlord solo'er of life the Lord Prime Hiruzen. (all tremble before his mightiness) ~for teh lulz~
1.Nagato (self explanatory)
2.Madara (self explanatory)
3.Kisame (Giant water thing like he did against Bee renders FTG useless) plus Samehadas healing and his Shark mode etc, this ones a bad match up for Minato)
4.Hashirama (self explanatory)
5.Naruto (...)
6.Sauske (....)
7.Gai 8 Gates (..he still is > Minato, you could call it stalemate or whatever coz he dies at the end... but uhg)
8.Obito (The one that uses Juubi sized Katons, and has the Renningun)
9.Tobirama (he only said his ftg was better, not that he was stronger than him)
10.Kabuto (DSM, sound 4 abilities, hes pretty hax tbh..)
11.Muu, (Jinton,invisibility etc. flight)
12.Trollkage (dat giant clam genjustu dou, another bad match up for Minato)
13.Orochimaru is seriously underrated on here :/ (but, maybe not...)


Give or take.

Minato's in my top 15

 

[ShiroT]

0.Super overlord solo'er of life the Lord Prime Hiruzen. (all tremble before his mightiness) ~for teh lulz~
1.Nagato (self explanatory)
2.Madara (self explanatory)
3.Kisame (Giant water thing like he did against Bee renders FTG useless) plus Samehadas healing and his Shark mode etc, this ones a bad match up for Minato)
4.Hashirama (self explanatory)
5.Naruto (...)
6.Sauske (....)
7.Gai 8 Gates (..he still is > Minato, you could call it stalemate or whatever coz he dies at the end... but uhg)
8.Obito (The one that uses Juubi sized Katons, and has the Renningun)
9.Tobirama (he only said his ftg was better, not that he was stronger than him)
10.Kabuto (DSM, sound 4 abilities, hes pretty hax tbh..)
11.Muu, (Jinton,invisibility etc. flight)
12.Trollkage (dat giant clam genjustu dou, another bad match up for Minato)
13.Orochimaru is seriously underrated on here :/ (but, maybe not...)


Give or take.

Minato's in my top 15

i dont even know where to start . . . .

guy cant hit minato so he dies alone sorry
kisame loses. if he traps minato then he ftgs around until he eventually gets out or he ftgs out. dome is useless
minato is a sensor and would sense mu.
minato can also sense the clam .. .because he's a sensor

your list . . .the bias is crazy

 

[ugh]

i dont even know where to start . . . .

guy cant hit minato so he dies alone sorry
kisame loses. if he traps minato then he ftgs around until he eventually gets out or he ftgs out. dome is useless
minato is a sensor and would sense mu.
minato can also sense the clam .. .because he's a sensor

your list . . .the bias is crazy

Sensing muu =/= beating muu ...
Oh the hax of flying XD

8 Gates guy ... are you saying 8 gates guy < Minato ?... the one that nearly killed super hax Madara??? and he calls me bias ... :/

well i guess Kisame was a bit too much :x3

The clam is not the only thing in his arsenal, hes not gonna stand around wait for him to kill the clam ._. he was edo and he wanted to lose against the fodder army :/ that weird exploding thing that he uses is pretty 'wow' as well y'no.