how is RINNEGAN fodder?

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kishi told that rinnegan is superior doujutsu.but we have seen nagato,Edo madara and RINNEGAN obito got fodderized? why.writer have to use pnj for these type of characters?
 

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What? None of them ever got fodderized?
And I'm not sure why PNJ is used. It's just the writers decision as a means to help advance the plot.
 
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nagato is weird :|

madara uses only Sharingan Techs most of the time just like obito only uses beast..

U_U idunnp
 

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When were Nagato and Edo Madara fodderized? Last time I checked, it took a team effort from the two strongest Jinchuuriki and Itachi to take down Nagato. And Edo Madara? He off-paneled the five Kage, and according to him, without using Perfect Susano'o.

Obito has not shown the ability to use the full Rinnegan arsenal. Madara was expecting Obito to betray him, thus it is unlikely he taught him a bunch of broken techniques that would make him harder to keep under his control. Controlling Jinchuuriki and Outer Path fall under the requirements to setup the Moon's Eye plan, thus its understandable he would have taught him those techniques.

Furthermore, even if Obito had knowledge on all of the Rinnegan's ability, having one Rinnegan would easily explain him not having access to the full arsenal. The Rinnegan has been stated to be the next level of Sharingan, and given the fact that having one Mangekyo is not enough to grant you access to that Mangekyo pair's full power, it would make sense that the same would apply to the evolution of that same eye.

So yeah, the Rinnegan has an excellent track record of brutalizing Jinchuuriki, murking multiple Kage, and nuking villages. Nothing fodder about that.
 

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kishi told that rinnegan is superior doujutsu.but we have seen nagato,Edo madara and RINNEGAN obito got fodderized? why.writer have to use pnj for these type of characters?

Nagato fought against two perfect jinchuriki's and Itachi. What did you expect?

I don't remember Madara getting fodderized

We all know why Obito lost, there's no need for further explanation.

Kishi uses "PNJ" for every character. Why? Because it's for the sake of the plot, no plot= no story. You guys want Kishi to put logic into the manga ruining the story? Do you guys want a good story or not?
 

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no. they never got fodderized..
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When were Nagato and Edo Madara fodderized? Last time I checked, it took a team effort from the two strongest Jinchuuriki and Itachi to take down Nagato. And Edo Madara? He off-paneled the five Kage, and according to him, without using Perfect Susano'o.

Obito has not shown the ability to use the full Rinnegan arsenal. Madara was expecting Obito to betray him, thus it is unlikely he taught him a bunch of broken techniques that would make him harder to keep under his control. Controlling Jinchuuriki and Outer Path fall under the requirements to setup the Moon's Eye plan, thus its understandable he would have taught him those techniques.

Furthermore, even if Obito had knowledge on all of the Rinnegan's ability, having one Rinnegan would easily explain him not having access to the full arsenal. The Rinnegan has been stated to be the next level of Sharingan, and given the fact that having one Mangekyo is not enough to grant you access to that Mangekyo pair's full power, it would make sense that the same would apply to the evolution of that same eye.

So yeah, the Rinnegan has an excellent track record of brutalizing Jinchuuriki, murking multiple Kage, and nuking villages. Nothing fodder about that.

Agree with everything except for the rinnegan being the sharingans evolution. That isn't true. Cause If a senju got Uchiha DNA he would get rinnegan. And as we know Senju's don't have sharingans so it can't be the sharingans evolution. The sharingan and the rinnegan are basically two different eyes in the same head.
 

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Obito and Nagato got fodderized

Edo Madara hasn't been fodderized, yet
 

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None of them ever got fodderized, It took 2 Perfect Jinchuriki and an MS User to put down a handicapped Nagato, The only times Madara and Obito ever lost where when they either didn't have or use the Rinnegan.
 

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This thread was all part of my plan, but seriously? They never got fodderized, Madara was raping, Nagato was also raping, obito never even used the fukin rinnegan besides his paths LOL
 

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Agree with everything except for the rinnegan being the sharingans evolution. That isn't true. Cause If a senju got Uchiha DNA he would get rinnegan.

We've never seen a Senju get Uchiha DNA.

" . . . "

It is outright stated to be the Sharingan's evolution.

And as we know Senju's don't have sharingans so it can't be the sharingans evolution. The sharingan and the rinnegan are basically two different eyes in the same head.

I have no idea what you mean here. Of course Senjus don't have Sharingans - only Uchihas have Sharingans.
 

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None of them certainly got fodderized, including Obito. What do you want? That everyone gets beaten by over-the-top moves constantly while those who get injured by smaller-scale attacks are called fodderized? Goddammit that´s stupid.

Nagato was remote-controlled by Kabuto at the time to the point it was actually like fighting Kabuto using Nagato as a gun, and the sheer odds put against him were too incredible for almost everyone to stand against.
And the only one who´ve bested Madara is Hashirama when they were alive, he´s only lost limbs on occasion recently, never even been beaten so the fodder term is highly overused in this regard. Hell, I wish it wasn´t used at all, as recklessly used as it is.
 

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The only guy who has been able to blast Konoha away to dusts, along with the Hokage is Pain (Nagato). And he could've killed everybody if he didn't get into the famous Talk no Jutsu or had been trying to capture Naruto. And he was immobilized. Guess what techniques he used? Exactly. Rinnegan. So far MS or EMS haven't been able to do such a damage even when Obito was controlling Kurama. It's the MS that is fodder against Rinnegan not the other way around.
 

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They never got fodderzed...

Minato and Itachi...
 

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The place i see this happening was when pain fought against naruto, why was the most powerful among pain, couℓdn't use his power from the start, bcos if he could use then, naruto will have no chance as defeating pain, he would have only defeated the machine pain since that was reckless.

How can kakashi beat obito in kamui dimension, when obito firstly allowed kakashi to stab him, which was unnecessary, then he didnt even use any regnnega ability nor use any summoning.

OT: i think nobody has noticed this, why hɑsn't obito, or kakashi gone blind because they used the ms more that any other ms user, for sakuke he use it in only 3 fights and went blind, but obito i can count, and kakashi the same thing! I think there plot no jutsu here.
 
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