How is Naruto gonna combat 3rd eye wielders?

[SeveN797]

Sasuke's words about the rinnegan and IT genjutsu basically got contradicted by Kaguya's actions.

How?

There wasn't a moon for NV earth before Hagoromo created it to seal Kaguya with his CT lol. And Kaguya was still able to cast the IT without the moon. Which is proof enough that Kaguya doesn't need it but still if moon's the concern then Kaguya's dimensions had moons as well if I remember it correctly.

Ice dimension didn't have moon in the manga, and it was never explained how Kaguya casted it before.

Sasuke also said he was the strongest during VoTE 2 and look how that ended for him.

Yeah, Naruto proved him wrong in VoTE 2. Did Naruto prove him wrong about IT ?

Its a fact deduced from logical reasoning.

Funny, I once told you the same when we were talking about Rinnegan genjutsu on bijuus. I was saying Sasuke used Sharingan genjutsu through his Rinnegan, giving you logical reasons, but you didn't seem to care, all you were saying was "not manga facts".

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So I don't care what you think is logical to assume, cuz I find your's flawed and ignoring one thing over the other. So unless you can prove them with actual facts you're not going to convince me.

I guess I could say the same then.

 

[HowDidIGetPrem]

He just gets 1shot. soon sarada will have genjutsu on her father's level too.

 

[Reboryushon]

With his fists, his clones, Kurama, the rasengan, his friend Sasuke and a lot of fucking balls, that's how..

 

[wanderingcactus]

We won't know for sure.

Naruto has the chakra cloak so we won't know for sure whether the light can penetrate it.
Although it would make sense as IT seems to be a Yin ability and Naruto is all about Yang.

This could be the reason why Sasuke's PS deteriorated when Kaguya used a Yang ability.

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But then again we can't be sure whether or not Naruto could've tanked this with Kurama cloak or with his TSO

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[Darth AniCetuS]

How?

How many times do you need me to explain lol. Just read my previous posts.

Ice dimension didn't have moon in the manga, and it was never explained how Kaguya casted it before.

Read my edit in the last post. Kaguya didn't need the moon to cast IT.

Yeah, Naruto proved him wrong in VoTE 2. Did Naruto prove him wrong about IT ?

That was an example to prove that whatever Sasuke says doesn't make it a fact lol. Same for his rinnegan genjutsu statements when Kaguya's actions clearly prove otherwise

Funny, I once told you the same when we were talking about Rinnegan genjutsu on bijuus. I was saying Sasuke used Sharingan genjutsu through his Rinnegan, giving you logical reasons, but you didn't seem to care, all you were saying was "not manga facts".

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I guess I could say the same then.

You could've if you were able to provide a contradictory evidence to my claims as I have given with Sasuke's rinnegan genjutus statements and Kaguya's actions that contradicts them.

With Sasuke using his rinnegan genjutsu on the bijuu's you have nothing to contradict my statements. All I'll agree though is that, that was a debate based on opinions due to lack of enough facts from both sides and that's all.

 

[super michael]

Just because Kaguya didn't use IT on Naruto doesn't mean it is proof it won't work on Naruto. Kaguya didn't use IT on Sakura and Kakashi but that doesn't mean it won't work on them.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Just because Kaguya didn't use IT on Naruto doesn't mean it is proof it won't work on Naruto. Kaguya didn't use IT on Sakura and Kakashi but that doesn't mean it won't work on them.

It does cuz if it really did work on Naruto then she wouldn't have to put so much effort first to capture him and then later decide to kill him. In fact IT is a technique designed to put people under genjutsu and then suck their chakra. So using IT would've been the quickest way for her to beat Naruto without killing him and suck his chakra out at the same time provided IT actually works on Naruto.
The fact she didn't use it says otherwise.

 

[super michael]

It does cuz if it really did work on Naruto then she wouldn't have to put so much effort first to capture him and then later decide to kill him. In fact IT is a technique designed to put people under genjutsu and then suck their chakra. So using IT would've been the quickest way for her to beat Naruto without killing him and suck his chakra out at the same time provided IT actually works on Naruto.
The fact she didn't use it says otherwise.

So why not use it on Kakashi who was giving Kaguya trouble? Surely Kakashi Sharingan wouldn't be able to deflect IT. What about Sakura she doesn't have any immunity to it.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

So why not use it on Kakashi who was giving Kaguya trouble? Surely Kakashi Sharingan wouldn't be able to deflect IT. What about Sakura she doesn't have any immunity to it.

There are many reasons:
She had already given up on taking Naruto and Sasuke's chakra and was already in the middle of destroying her dimension to kill everyone with her massive TSB.
Sasuke was back and could've shielded everyone from IT.
And as already stated if both Naruto and Sasuke were immune to IT all she'd do is waste chakra after casting that massive TSB to destroy everyone just to get Kakashi out of the picture.
By the time she'd have cast IT Kakashi had already done the damage and the plans to seal was put in motion thus not giving her the time to think rationally.
And many more.

 

[SeveN797]

How many times do you need me to explain lol. Just read my previous posts.



Read my edit in the last post. Kaguya didn't need the moon to cast IT.



That was an example to prove that whatever Sasuke says doesn't make it a fact lol. Same for his rinnegan genjutsu statements when Kaguya's actions clearly prove otherwise



You could've if you were able to provide a contradictory evidence to my claims as I have given with Sasuke's rinnegan genjutus statements and Kaguya's actions that contradicts them.

With Sasuke using his rinnegan genjutsu on the bijuu's you have nothing to contradict my statements. All I'll agree though is that, that was a debate based on opinions due to lack of enough facts from both sides and that's all.

So basically your whole point is that Kaguya didn't use IT on Naruto? Lack of evidence is not evidence, you're assuming Naruto is resistant, because Kaguya didn't use it, while in reality we don't know why she didn't use it. Saying that because Naruto is immune is what you want to believe and your opinion, but you didn't prove that's the real case.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

So basically your whole point is that Kaguya didn't use IT on Naruto? Lack of evidence is not evidence, you're assuming Naruto is resistant, because Kaguya didn't use it, while in reality we don't know why she didn't use it. Saying that because Naruto is immune is what you want to believe and your opinion, but you didn't prove that's the real case.

If IT actually did work on Naruto then it was the best technique to one shot Naruto and suck his chakra out at the same time. Despite all that her not using IT and trying everything out and finally choosing to kill Naruto and still not using IT is the most obvious evidence that IT doesn't work on him.

 

[Nick01]

Yes but it doesn't even matter only 3 eyes users are Kaguya and JJ Madara and they can go toe to toe with any version of Naruto with high difficulty.

I see.

I can understand some people's desire for IT to work on Naruto :lol

Sad, but they simply can't prove it.

-They say "only" Rinnegan can counter IT.

-Yet BZ, Obito and The Edo's were unaffected, already proving the above statement false.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

I see.



Sad, but they simply can't prove it.

-They say "only" Rinnegan can counter IT.

-Yet BZ, Obito and The Edo's were unaffected, already proving the above statement false.

Not to mention Sasuke has been wrong before and even during the VoTE 2 fight where he claimed that he was the strongest only to lose in the end.

 

[SeveN797]

If IT actually did work on Naruto then it was the best technique to one shot Naruto and suck his chakra out at the same time. Despite all that her not using IT and trying everything out and finally choosing to kill Naruto and still not using IT is the most obvious evidence that IT doesn't work on him.

Again, you didn't prove it. You're just telling me your opinion about what you think was the best way for Kaguya to deal with Naruto. Just because Kaguya didn't do as you think it was best for her, doesn't automatically mean you're right.

Show me a page showing Naruto reflecting Kaguya's IT, show me a page when Kaguya is trying to cast IT, but BZ told her to not do so, because Naruto is immune, show me a page with even a smallest hint that indicates Naruto is immune.

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Again, you didn't prove it. You're just telling me your opinion about what you think was the best way for Kaguya to deal with Naruto. Just because Kaguya didn't do as you think it was best for her, doesn't automatically mean you're right.

Show me a page showing Naruto reflecting Kaguya's IT, show me a page when Kaguya is trying to cast IT, but BZ told her to not do so, because Naruto is immune, show me a page with even a smallest hint that indicates Naruto is immune.

That's not my opinion but actual events in the manga that contradicts Sasuke's word and clearly proves that Naruto is immune.

@Bold I gave you all the facts to prove my point while you keep going back to what Sasuke said when I also proved to you that what Sasuke says isn't always right but if you still don't agree then show me a scan where Naruto was affected by IT...

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21744148" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21744148">Darth AniCetuS said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> If IT actually did work on Naruto then it was the best technique to one shot Naruto and suck his chakra out at the same time. Despite all that her not using IT and trying everything out and finally choosing to kill Naruto and still not using IT is the most obvious evidence that IT doesn't work on him. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote> <blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21744169" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21744169">Nick01 said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> I see.<br /> <br /> <br /> <br /> Sad, but they simply can't prove it.<br /> <br /> -They say &quot;only&quot; Rinnegan can counter IT.<br /> <br /> -Yet BZ, Obito and The Edo's were unaffected, already proving the above statement false. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Fodderfaps and their fapfics <img src="/images/smilies/go.envolve.com.gif" class="smilie" alt=":lmao:" title="LMAO :lmao:" data-shortname=":lmao:" /><br /> <br /> Without Sasuke they would all be caught in IT , it was even stated in manga - and BZ wasnt affected because he iz Kaguya's will / or whatever exactly he is</div>

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Fodderfaps and their fapfics

Without Sasuke they would all be caught in IT , it was even stated in manga - and BZ wasnt affected because he iz Kaguya's will / or whatever exactly he is

Brate you're not worth my time and explanation. So please shut up and go look for that gif where Sasuke blitzes the Otsutsukis.

 

[UnderTheRedHood]

<div class="bbWrapper"><blockquote class="bbCodeBlock bbCodeBlock--expandable bbCodeBlock--quote"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-title"> <a href="/goto/post?id=21744184" class="bbCodeBlock-sourceJump" data-xf-click="attribution" data-content-selector="#post-21744184">Darth AniCetuS said:</a> </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-content"> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandContent"> Brate you're not worth my time and explanation. So please shut up and go look for that gif where Sasuke blitzes the Otsutsukis. </div> <div class="bbCodeBlock-expandLink"><a>Click to expand...</a></div> </div> </blockquote>Why bother quoting then? too much butthurt looool - and yeah, the same image when Hashirama stated that 4 years old Tsunade have the same strength as wararc Sakura:elmo:</div>

 

[SeveN797]

That's not my opinion but actual events in the manga that contradicts Sasuke's word and clearly proves that Naruto is immune.

Nope, the events are real, but you are manipulating them and describing them to fit your argument. You're using the fact of Kaguya not using IT on Naruto, as a evidence of his immunity.

Your "actual events" are actually repeating one thing over and over again. I'll repeat myself too then, prove Naruto's resistance was the real reason of Kaguya not using IT, but with an actual manga facts, not your opinion saying "IT was the best way to deal with Naruto, but if Kaguya didn't use it, it means Naruto have to be immune."

 

[Darth AniCetuS]

Nope, the events are real, but you are manipulating them and describing them to fit your argument. You're using the fact of Kaguya not using IT on Naruto, as a evidence of his immunity.

Your "actual events" are actually repeating one thing over and over again. I'll repeat myself too then, prove Naruto's resistance was the real reason of Kaguya not using IT, but with an actual manga facts, not your opinion saying "IT was the best way to deal with Naruto, but if Kaguya didn't use it, it means Naruto have to be immune."

I am not manipulating anything.

@Bold I already did bro. She didn't use it despite BZ watching Sasuke shielding Naruto under his susanoo. What more evidence do you need.

You may repeat as many times as you like but Sasuke has been wrong before as I proved and Kaguya's actions are a fact and proves Sasuke wrong in this case.