How is Madara still alive with Kakashi outthere?

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by the same logic why doesn't Madara simply solo the Alliance or use another meteor

plot is on the side of the alliance

If he uses the meteor jutsu he will die with the alliance. He stated using it as an Edo was an advantage as he and muu would just regenerate. But now that he's alive he would die. OP - Kamui solos U_U
 

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Madara would counter Kamui with Preta Path, so Kakashi can't do much.
 

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Never said such a thing in the mangapanda translation that i find more trustworthy:


Check the manga stream translation: He said is nothing I cant handle.
 

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Never said such a thing in the mangapanda translation that i find more trustworthy:

Kamui soloes So6P. :cool:


Lol @Madara being faster than A. Just like he evaded Sasukes Amaterasu right? Replace Amaterasu with Kamui and Madara would have been done for



A subjective scenario on past events is not a valid argument as you're trying to make the establishment that Kakashi and Kamui is enough to best Madara, I am telling you it's false.

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Kakashi isn't bloodlusted, when Obito dies he solos.

This.. Kakashi's going to use Rage Mode when Obito dies and go on a Kamui spree:

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Well Since the juubi is whiten him, he cannot travel through dimensions. Meaning kakashi cannot kamui him there.

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Most logical explanation i can give you is that the juubi is too powerful and too large to be kamui'd.

all i got was that obito himself cannot travel between dimension

but if someone else were to open a portal (kakashi's kamui) then i dont see why he wont get sucked in, obito as a jinchuriki is still human sized after all

and kakashi suspiciously appears only after obito is no longer a jinchuriki, too convenient
 

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maybe its because he is too weak to actually kill him? did you ever think of that?

yet another one of these x tech oneshots thread.

it's not that easy to hit a moving target with kamui, madara can simply shunsin and then slit kakashi's throat as he's in mid cast.
rinbo henguko has the pushing power to capably shatter every bone in his body as well as cancel his kamui in activation.
 

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all i got was that obito himself cannot travel between dimension

but if someone else were to open a portal (kakashi's kamui) then i dont see why he wont get sucked in, obito as a jinchuriki is still human sized after all

and kakashi suspiciously appears only after obito is no longer a jinchuriki, too convenient

The juubi is a mass of Chakra and natural energy, It cannot pass through dimensions as it's too large and too powerful to.

That's why obito was unable to go intangable. It's simple really.
 

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I'm gaining fun with a dumbass like you .

(Let's wait for the same response Lol)
So, you just derailed the topic for such a thing? Lmao, speechless. And no I'm not a dumbass, it's just you trying to look big.
 

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Itachi "every jutsu has a weakness" so 1 shotting is invalid.
Kakashi cant recklessly shoot kamui with his medium amount of chakra.

Fanboys > manga facts/logic because they are character whipped by tsuki no me.
 

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I don't see how a ninjutsu-absobing tech absorbs a space/time tech. It makes no sense. Kamui opens a whole into another dimension.

There's nothing to be absorbed.

Nevertheless, Madara is too pro for Kamui. Preta Path countering Kamui is a sh*t argument though.
 

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The juubi is a mass of Chakra and natural energy, It cannot pass through dimensions as it's too large and too powerful to.

That's why obito was unable to go intangable. It's simple really.

In Space-time ninjutsu only the size of the target being teleported is of concern, not how much chakra the target contains, kakashi nor minato ever worry about that, obito is still human sized and can be teleported

Why was obito teleported by hiraishin if juubi jinchuriki is too powerful to be teleported?

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obito himself might have lost the ability to use kamui but kakashi can open a portal and suck obito in

Also can you explain why kakashi appears only after obito is no longer a jinchuriki?
 

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Madara said Kamui is nothing he can't deal with U_U.
 

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Their eyes are linked. If ones locked so isnt the other. I believe obito has the dimensional realm. And kakashi could only tele in and out.

To andwer the kakashi part. He needed the chakra to get out of the realm.

The reason i believe juubi couldnt be teleported was because it didnt effect it. Only sage jutsus do.
 

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In Space-time ninjutsu only the size of the target being teleported is of concern, not how much chakra the target contains, kakashi nor minato ever worry about that, obito is still human sized and can be teleported

Why was obito teleported by hiraishin if juubi jinchuriki is too powerful to be teleported?

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obito himself might have lost the ability to use kamui but kakashi can open a portal and suck obito in

Also can you explain why kakashi appears only after obito is no longer a jinchuriki?

I still don't think it would have worked on Obito as hosting the progenitor prohibits him from shifting between dimensions. I had a thought on the matter sometime back.

In a nutshell:

Genjutsu manipulates charka flow the the brain thus causing a ripple of the senses and may be used to insert an experience of false dilemmas within the desired target. kamui shifting between dimensions being identical between shifting between reality and illusion. Knitting this along with the aforementioned principle of Kamui, I thought that this [ ] specific instance spurred by Obito's overwhelming curiosity and concern was actually Kamui messing with dimensions; converting reality as seen and heard by Kakashi to illusion and relayed them as illusion to Obito [ ] also as portrayed in the recent chapter [ ]. Compiling the afore properties; Kamui as a jutsu is actually the ability to manually influence the intersection of Reality and Illusion----which naturally----allows the user to appear at any desired location on the plane of reality. The Juubi then contained by Obito should have naturally prohibited him from utilizing the technique as it would require it to exist as an illusion on the plane of reality which may contradict it's function as progenitor, the sole source of all that exists [ ]. That however contradicts Rikudo dissecting it within the realm but possibly illuminates a greater interpretation that the Jūbi's Jinchuriki may only be able to utilize the jutsu if Jūbi is complete. It would need to be of full composition maintaining the rudimentary principles of Reality and Illusion: It's Inton [ based on the spiritual energy that governs the imagination, can be used to create form out of nothingness] and Yōton [based on the physical energy that governs vitality, can be used to breathe life into form.] portions respectively which it at the time was lacking [Hachibi and Kyuubi] to be in sync with Kamui.
 
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In Space-time ninjutsu only the size of the target being teleported is of concern, not how much chakra the target contains, kakashi nor minato ever worry about that, obito is still human sized and can be teleported

Why was obito teleported by hiraishin if juubi jinchuriki is too powerful to be teleported?

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obito himself might have lost the ability to use kamui but kakashi can open a portal and suck obito in

Also can you explain why kakashi appears only after obito is no longer a jinchuriki?


Manga clearly stated that obito cannot pass through the kamui dimension because of the juubi being inside him.

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It's not about obito's size physically, it's the Juubi's size that is sealed whiten obito. Since the Juubi is a mass of natural energy and sealed inside obito, Obito cannot switch dimensions because he would have to carry the juubi with him which isn't possible.

FTG worked on obito because they simply teleported him in the real world, When kamui would need to transport the juubi to another dimension which wont be possible as the juubi is too large and powerful for that to happen.
 

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If thats the case thats why kakashi couldnt escape was because the juubi prohibited kamui's capabilities. Thus canceling kakashis eyes till obito was no longer jin. I think?
 

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Manga clearly stated that obito cannot pass through the kamui dimension because of the juubi being inside him.

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It's not about obito's size physically, it's the Juubi's size that is sealed whiten obito. Since the Juubi is a mass of natural energy and sealed inside obito, Obito cannot switch dimensions because he would have to carry the juubi with him which isn't possible.

FTG worked on obito because they simply teleported him in the real world, When kamui would need to transport the juubi to another dimension which wont be possible as the juubi is too large and powerful for that to happen.

Only that, Kamui was originally the Shinju's.
 

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Only that, Kamui was originally the Shinju's.

Hmm indeed very plausible. I like the fact that you specified that the juubi doesn't allow kamui to function at all due to it not being balanced out because of the missing 9+8 tails.

Maybe that is why the Juubi's Jinchuuriki has a weakness to natural energy as well, It's not complete to fully balance Ying+Yang.

Very interesting
 
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