How Is Hiruzen Able To Beat Tsunade Realistically??

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Theres a reason why Lord First and Second trusted him to protect the future shinobi. They believed in his strength. I do too. Calling him weak is just like calling the Hokages stupid for choosing him. Why would they choose someone weak?
 

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I think she did tank them because of her seal that lasts like 15 minutes.

It lasts more like hours actually. Read your Naruto better!

Theres a reason why Lord First and Second trusted him to protect the future shinobi. They believed in his strength. I do too. Calling him weak is just like calling the Hokages stupid for choosing him. Why would they choose someone weak?

I have no idea. But currently he loses quite easily to Tsunade. Maybe the situation will change at some point. But CURRENTLY he loses.
 

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Theres a reason why Lord First and Second trusted him to protect the future shinobi. They believed in his strength. I do too. Calling him weak is just like calling the Hokages stupid for choosing him. Why would they choose someone weak?

Now now, he already admitted that he failed to live up to the Nidaime's legacy, don't rub it in.
 

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correction...cuz hirzuen has avg speed to maybe a bit above avg...sakura could never land a punch on either minato or tobirama with their speed and FTG....and sorry if not good enough...but that's the thing afew tsunade punches ends this but no explanation can be given of how he stops her

Hiruzen probably does have something that can stop Tsunades punches but the thing is Tsunade can probably throw punches for days. She's an Uzumaki and Senju descendant right so she would have a lot of endurance, Hiruzen wouldn't be able to last an hour in his part 1 condition.

But its the way some people are arguing on this thread. You have a really really old man probably near or in his 80's pitched against a probably 50 year old woman then boast about how Tsunade could woop his ass. Well of course, he's and old man and his battle against Orochimaru was deemed 'pitful' compared to his younger self.
 

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Hiruzen will show us some feats and just watch how everyone will jump on the bandwagon. Tsunade won't have shit on him.
 

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It's pretty stupid to Put some one who has limited part 1 feats against any kage that has strong feats from Part 2.

Obviously since Hiruzen is featless in part two, So we do not know how his power scaling has change and he didn't even seen like 1% of his entire jutsu pool in his fight with Orochimaru.
Plus adding to the fact he was unintentionally/intentionally Holding back during that fight due to fighting his own feelings about fighting his former student. The only time he got Serious was when he Owned Oro in a quick close combat scuffle to create an opening for RDS.

If kishi brings his Hype from part one then old Hiruzen is stronger than all the current Kages + 3rd raiakage (if he was alive during old hiruzen's rein and Gaara's father). So it wouldn't be insane to say he would also be stronger than tsunade.

Obviously current Tsunade > Hiruzen by feats, But by hype he is stronger than her in his old state and God stomps her in his prime state.
 

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- Ranshinso
- Enormous strength
- Katsuyu's acid
- Chakra Blades
- Chakra Control ( CES )
- The ninjutsu he wanted to use against Orochimaru


Young Kabuto = Part1 Kakashi = Elite jounin level.
Stop underrating even Kabuto.

at this level of a fight, the young kabuto = kakashi is not underrating him (he dreamed about reaching his master oro's level, ya the same guy hiruzen crippled when he was healthy).

on to the points you made (don't say i ignored them again lol) :
- close combat.

- useless without strategy/offensive jutsu/real speed, like i said relying on close combat.

- Katsuyu's acid : last time i checked wasn't a super fast attack (remember the oro fight) embarrassing to talk about this.

- chakra blades : still close combat (nothing new).

- chakra control : why even mention it.

- let me know when you find out what it was.

what a waste of time ................ :(
 
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Now now, he already admitted that he failed to live up to the Nidaime's legacy, don't rub it in.

He failed to live up to doing the dark work which is why he let Danzo take care of it. I meant strength which Tobirama trusted from Hiruzen
 

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Why are we even debating this. Current Hiruzen is weak. I mean WEAK. Tsunade takes him easily.
The situation could change but currently the FACT is that Tsunade is stronger. Why would you even say otherwise?
 

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How can Hiruzen with his piss-poor reserves even attempt to outlast one of the chakra powerhouses of the Narutoverse?
 

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Why are we even debating this. Current Hiruzen is weak. I mean WEAK. Tsunade takes him easily.
The situation could change but currently the FACT is that Tsunade is stronger. Why would you even say otherwise?

the guy who summons this is not weak :

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and he shouldn't be compared to someone who became hokage by mistake.
 

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Prime Hiruzen > Tsunade
Old Age knocking on deaths door Hiruzen < Tsunade

Happy?
 

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the guy who summons this is not weak :

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and he shouldn't be compared to someone who became hokage by mistake.
Enma's feats? and Jiraiay recommended Tsunade as hokage so I don't know what you're talking about.
 

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Prime Hiruzen > Tsunade
Old Age knocking on deaths door Hiruzen < Tsunade

Happy?

What is Prime Hiruzen? It never existed in the manga at least. I could say that Prime Tenten with rinnegan and a Juubi beats everyone. Same logic.
 
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