How in the hell is Sasuke the handout king compared to Naruto?

[Gagster]

If its as Bs as you said then most people wouldn't be saying that crap that bsm nardo >ems sauce XD

SM naruto> EMS Sausuke.

 

[Shodai Raikage Hendrix]

Those that defend Naruto are funny. So tell me again how the Sharingan and it's variations are a bigger asspull than having a demon fox giving you

A. Constant chakra so you can spam powerful techniques
B. Resurrecting you and turning you into a higher level of Super Saiyan than before after you get your ass kicked

Uh, the sharingan and it's variations doesn't do that. It didn't save:

A. The Uchiha clan against the Senju which I'm sure wasn't filled with Hashirama and Tobirama clones.
B. Izuna from from getting murked
C. Madara from getting a sharp bamboo dildo rammed up his ass from Hashirama in the VOTE. Hell, Hashi even looked like he could've kept on fighting.
D. Shisui from getting his eye stolen by Danzo
E. The clan from getting wiped out by Itachi and the loser of the Uchiha Clan, Obito.
F. Itachi from getting Uchiha aids.
G. Sasuke from getting stomped by Haku, Lee, Gaara, Itachi, The Sound 4, Killer B and A.

So Sharingan=Kyubi? I don't think so.

 

[TrollKing]

Those that defend Naruto are funny. So tell me again how the Sharingan and it's variations are a bigger asspull than having a demon fox giving you

A. Constant chakra so you can spam powerful techniques
B. Resurrecting you and turning you into a higher level of Super Saiyan than before after you get your ass kicked

Uh, the sharingan and it's variations doesn't do that. It didn't save:

A. The Uchiha clan against the Senju which I'm sure wasn't filled with Hashirama and Tobirama clones.
B. Izuna from from getting murked
C. Madara from getting a sharp bamboo dildo rammed up his ass from Hashirama in the VOTE. Hell, Hashi even looked like he could've kept on fighting.
D. Shisui from getting his eye stolen by Danzo
E. The clan from getting wiped out by Itachi and the loser of the Uchiha Clan, Obito.
F. Itachi from getting Uchiha aids.
G. Sasuke from getting stomped by Haku, Lee, Gaara, Itachi, The Sound 4, Killer B and A.

So Sharingan=Kyubi? I don't think so.

Naruto fans:

Nine tail stomp uchiha

Uchiha=biggest asspull handout kings

 

[Flakez]

Funny how some people think that having the Kyuubi insantly makes you OP. By this logic you can give Kiba the nine tails and he'll wreck shit. When in reality you need to master it's power.

 

[Gagster]

Those that defend Naruto are funny. So tell me again how the Sharingan and it's variations are a bigger asspull than having a demon fox giving you

A. Constant chakra so you can spam powerful techniques
B. Resurrecting you and turning you into a higher level of Super Saiyan than before after you get your ass kicked

Uh, the sharingan and it's variations doesn't do that. It didn't save:

A. The Uchiha clan against the Senju which I'm sure wasn't filled with Hashirama and Tobirama clones.
B. Izuna from from getting murked
C. Madara from getting a sharp bamboo dildo rammed up his ass from Hashirama in the VOTE. Hell, Hashi even looked like he could've kept on fighting.
D. Shisui from getting his eye stolen by Danzo
E. The clan from getting wiped out by Itachi and the loser of the Uchiha Clan, Obito.
F. Itachi from getting Uchiha aids.
G. Sasuke from getting stomped by Haku, Lee, Gaara, Itachi, The Sound 4, Killer B and A.

So Sharingan=Kyubi? I don't think so.

It saved him from dying when he took on the Kages.
It saved him when he fought Dediera

Giant suit of flaming armor from a pair of eyes =/= Kyuubi

 

[TrollKing]

Funny how some people think that having the Kyuubi insantly makes you OP. By this logic you can give Kiba the nine tails and he'll wreck shit. When in reality you need to master it's power.

Nah kiba has to sweet talk nine tails. If nine tails fancy the slick talk, then nine tail would wreck for kiba, no training required XD

 

[sharingansennin]

Go ahead and show me how many times Sasuke actually trained to get stronger and I'll show you Naruto training more often. Naruto didn't chose to have the Kyuubi put into him and even punched Minato in the stomach because he did so. Sasuke was given Itachi's eyes, free upgrade in power with no training. Naruto trained for KM with Bee to control it and that was AFTER he had to defeat the Kyuubi in battle. Sasuke was GIVEN the curse mark from Orochimaru for a power upgrade and all he did was sit in a ****ing barrel sleeping. Naruto had to train for his sage mode. Bodysheding tech against Itachi when he escaped Amaterasu? He took over Orochimaru's body just by using his sharingan. Didn't earn the tech through training. Amaterasu when it was used against Obito after the Itachi fight? YOU GUESSED IT, Itachi gave it to him before he died by fingering his forehead. Sasuke is the SOLO GOD of free powerups. But that's the only thing he can solo.

Oh, and did i mention that now he got some kind of free power from Hashirama and now the senju dna from Kabuto while he's lying there dying? Oh no? Well now I did.

Shut the **** up about Sausage because he was given a free ride because he's Kishi's favorite character.

Of course their not going to show an Uchiha training, Sasuke has been diligently training before his parents got killed staying up late coming home to find his parents being killed by Itachi after training. He only stepped that up from there are you retarded Sasuke's entire goal in life prior to Itachi's death was becoming strong enough to kill him and you don' think he's training his ass off? You're also acting as if Naruto doesn't naturally have 4x the chakra capacity of Kakashi said by Kaskashi n the manga not including the Fox which can save him at any opportunity btw. Naruto was never in any danger, worst case scenario Kurama wrecks havov.

 

[Shodai Raikage Hendrix]

Funny how some people think that having the Kyuubi insantly makes you OP. By this logic you can give Kiba the nine tails and he'll wreck shit. When in reality you need to master it's power.

Actually, yes, and it'd probably be fitting too. In part one, all Naruto had to do was get pissed and he'd wreck shit. Naruto vs Sasuke at the VOTE, anyone? Naruto vs Haku? There was no strategy there. Just throw a ***** fit and you'll stomp some ass, kinda like in DBZ. Even in Naruto Vs Neji, I'm sure he still would've won whether he used the hole in the ground for an uppercut or not. Now Naruto vs Gaara, I'll give you that. That was a fair fight.

 

[EternalFlame]

Sasuke DOES train, training is actually his hobby. We just don't see it nearly as often as Naruto and that's because he's not Naruto. Naturally, the ON-SCREEN big training sequences/arcs will go to the title character to represent the theme of hardworking, if we also got the same with Sasuke we would of had multiple training arcs and everyone would of called that boring.

Also, Sasuke tends to train his skills in actual fights. He didn't unlock the Amaterasu/Enton on the level he's using it right now just like that, he had to use it several times, train with it in the fights he's had to advance it. It's the same thing with Susanno.

 

[Chie]

They are both handout babies. Madara and Kabuto also stole powers from other characters and added it to their arsenal. The reason people point the finger at Sasuke the most though is that he always seems to receive them literally by people just giving them to him. He doesn't need to gather intel on them, train for some of it, etc. Let's take a look...
-Sasuke gets cursemark. Ok, that's fine Naruto got the kyuubi as a handout from his dad.
-Orochimaru experiments on Sasuke's body and makes him faster somehow and he trained, etc. Naruto...trained to become better during the time skip and didn't receive enhancements. Sasuke=handout
-Sasuke receives MS due to the fight w/ Itachi. And yes, Itachi planned for Sasuke to get MS, he even stated that. Sasuke would have awakened it whether he learned the truth or not. All it takes is for someone close to you to die, and even when Sasuke hated Itachi, his life and goals revolved around him. Itachi even planned for Sasuke to get EMS, that's why he told him how Madara got his EMS by taking Izuna's eyes. He knew that Sasuke would eventually become blind and need to take his eyes. Itachi just didn't expect Sasuke to team up w/ Obito. Whereas Naruto had to work for sage mode. Sasuke=handout
- Sasuke gets EMS just be taking Itachi's eyes. Naruto gets BM by training w/ Bee and having to tame the 9-tails. He has to conquer the evil side of himself and best the 9-tails in a fight. Sasuke=handout
-Sasuke received Juugo's DNA when he repaired his chest after Bee blew it apart, which allows for him to use a weak variant of Senjutsu that he used to combine to his susanno. Naruto had to work for both his SM and BM and combined them in the war. Sasuke=handout
-Now, Sasuke and Naruto are being revived. They are both going to wake up w/ alot of power. Naruto and Sasuke=handout.

See. I like Sasuke and appreciate his character. Don't want anyone to get offended, and I do understand that both he and Naruto train hard to master their powerups. However, Sasuke is the character who worked the least for is power.

 

[TrollKing]

I'm sure rock lee work harder if not equally than naruto. And lee would still get molested by bsm. If lee strangle himself to death with 8 gates, maybe lee can last 10 seconds more before he officially suicided. You don't need to train for bsm, you need to know HOW to kiss nine tails ass aka talk no jutsu

 

[-Spoiler-]

Actually, yes, and it'd probably be fitting too. In part one, all Naruto had to do was get pissed and he'd wreck shit. Naruto vs Sasuke at the VOTE, anyone? Naruto vs Haku? There was no strategy there. Just throw a ***** fit and you'll stomp some ass, kinda like in DBZ. Even in Naruto Vs Neji, I'm sure he still would've won whether he used the hole in the ground for an uppercut or not. Now Naruto vs Gaara, I'll give you that. That was a fair fight.

Actually no, Neji lost that fight based on arrogance, he deactivated his Byakugan before they declared him the winner, if he had kept it on he would have seen that Naruto was underground and could have intercepted the attack.

 

[bashkim]

Sasuke and Naruto have trained hard so where is the problem ?

 

[-Spoiler-]

I'm sure rock lee work harder if not equally than naruto. And lee would still get molested by bsm. If lee strangle himself to death with 8 gates, maybe lee can last 10 seconds more before he officially suicided. You don't need to train for bsm, you need to know HOW to kiss nine tails ass aka talk no jutsu

Working as hard as naruto even without BSM still wouldn't put Lee and Naruto on the same playing field. Lee was restricted heavily from the get go. the lack of Ninjutsu and Genjutsu is his major downfall, Read the manga properly and quit with the BS hate.

 

[lelerskates]

Of course their not going to show an Uchiha training, Sasuke has been diligently training before his parents got killed staying up late coming home to find his parents being killed by Itachi after training. He only stepped that up from there are you retarded Sasuke's entire goal in life prior to Itachi's death was becoming strong enough to kill him and you don' think he's training his ass off? You're also acting as if Naruto doesn't naturally have 4x the chakra capacity of Kakashi said by Kaskashi n the manga not including the Fox which can save him at any opportunity btw. Naruto was never in any danger, worst case scenario Kurama wrecks havov.

You didn't counter anything I said in any way. Prove to me that Sasuke trained for all of those things that I said he didn't train for or I have proved that he didn't work for most of his powerups aka his strength aka his full power.

As of right now, your avatar and sig show to me that you are defending Sasuke with a bias. Until you or anyone else can show me reasonable examples as to where Sasuke ACTUALLY trained or worked hard for any of his main powerups: CM, bodyshedding during Itachi fight to dodge Amaterasu, getting amaterasu from Itachi after Itachi death, free Itachi eyes for EMS after carelessly spamming his own eyes to death, Juugo helping him with senjutsu for his Susanoo during Juubito fight and now Hashirama's "mystery chakra/technique" and Kabuto's modified Hashirama DNA. Yeah sure, I totally agree with you Sasuke fans. He worked hard for his abilities! *rolls eyes*

Notice I didn't call you a fanboy but a fan. I'm trying to be nice.

 

[TrollKing]

Working as hard as naruto even without BSM still wouldn't put Lee and Naruto on the same playing field. Lee was restricted heavily from the get go. the lack of Ninjutsu and Genjutsu is his major downfall, Read the manga properly and quit with the BS hate.

Same thing apply to naruto, the only thing he's blessed with is his chakara pool other than his pet. Without his pet, naruto is almost as talented as rock lee(don't get me wrong, guy stated lee indeed is talented, not like other think of him as a moron like naruto) =)

 

[Dark Link]

PNJ aside, when you compare their abilities, how in the hell is Sasuke the handout king compared to Naruto and the other characters? I know some idiots like to say "Sasuke was handed the Sharingan!" when he was just born with it (just like the other UCHIHA, Itachi and Madara, whose asses the base likes to kiss every 3-4 threads around here). You never hear anybody say that about Kakashi or Nagato, who were both literally handed their shit. Or Itachi and Madara, who both obtained the MS the same way Sasuke did. EMS is just to keep the MS powers and a little power boost. And Madara went even further as far as handouts go, because he went around stealing everybody's powers... yet still fanboys still continue to lick the crevice of his ass.

So really, he's wasn't handed shit and the Sharingan is a tool, and like any tool, you gotta work at it to get good. It's not gonna just save your ass 9 times out of 10 (unless you're Obito) and AFTER the fact, when you get it handed to you like Kurama is guaranteed to do for Naruto. There was never any of this:

Sasuke gets his ass kicked...

While he's laying there he hears a voice...

Sasuke: Ugh! What the hell? Who are you?

Susanoo: You should be grateful to me, you little shit! Even though you ran at your enemy like an idiot, here's another life as if we were in Super Mario World or something. Go out there and be somebody!

Sasuke: Uh, sure. Thanks.

*Proceeds to demolish foes in a very DBZ like fashion.*

And let's go back to part 1, shall we?

Sasuke obtained the CM (which he never asked for btw!) which helped put him on par with his rival Kyubbi Naruto. However, unlike Naruto, he had a real threat that came from overusing it (Naruto's was shortening his lifespan, but being an Uzumaki as well as the main character, did anybody really believe that bull?). Either he'd lose his mind from overuse or he'd die because it'd take all his chakra (just like with Chidori). Then people *****ed about how he went to Orochimaru for power (training) as if Naruto didn't just get trained by a sage himself, being taught both a powerful move (Rasengan) and the summoning technique (which helped him hand Gaara his ass) and having a ultimate assp-- I mean trump card (Kyubbi). But let's just pretend like that didn't happen and be hypocrites, right?

So really, how is Sasuke handed his powers in comparison to Naruto and the other Uchihas that are revered here on NB? Anyone?

your thread for some reason made me laugh

 

[-Spoiler-]

Same thing apply to naruto, the only thing he's blessed with is his chakara pool other than his pet. Without his pet, naruto is almost as talented as rock lee(don't get me wrong, guy stated lee indeed is talented, not like other think of him as a moron like naruto) =)

You're still not getting it.
Naruto can learn ( Ninjutsu , Taijutsu, Genjutsu)
Lee can learn ( Taijutsu )
Without Kurama, Naruto is still above lee because he can learn alot more that lee can.