how hashirama senju beats minato the greatest hokage

[AbukariDogMan]

Yondaime's main jutsu is the Flying Thunder God and the Rasengan...
Shodaime's main jutsu are the Mokutons and the bringer of darkness...

Yondaime's flying thunder god relies on the throwing of a special kunai with a seal for teleportation... imagine trying to do that in complete darkness and in a thick forest... Not only it would be hard aiming the kunai, would also be trapped within the branches everywhere and let's not forget that the trees are made with shodai's special senju chakra. Meaning it would be hard to destroy even maybe by using rasengan...

That's why Shodaime's mokuton techs are best on constricting the movement of his opponents. And when that's done Yondaime's greatest asset his speed would also be gone... So I guess Shodaime would win this one but not very easily... And that's discounting his pet bijuu's. What say you?

 

[-Haku Yuki-]

minato can tell where he is by placing his finger on the ground but that wouldnt help much so yeah the 1st would win

 

[DarkPhoenix]

He can teleport to the seals in his home to escape though

 

[Piccolosan]

good theory but ill have to say minato would win

 

[Tsukune]

minato has seals EVERYWHERE he could easily get out of the forest plus he can place seals with his hand

 

[Kakashi Fang]

He can teleport to the seals in his home to escape though

He's not there to escape though hesthere to do battle real Shinobi do not run and seek refuge.

minato has seals EVERYWHERE he could easily get out of the forest plus he can place seals with his hand

If Minato throws his special kunai anywhere Hashirama can use his Mokutan to grow over the Kunai or special mark just as a real tree does and Minato would teleport into a tree and thats where he will meet his end in a Mokutan grave.

 

[Tsukune]

He's not there to escape though hesthere to do battle real Shinobi do not run and seek refuge.


If Minato throws his special kunai anywhere Hashirama can use his Mokutan to grow over the Kunai or special mark just as a real tree does and Minato would teleport into a tree and thats where he will meet his end in a Mokutan grave.

ok? i think hed win though ( we dont know what else hes capable of )

 

[DarkPhoenix]

He's not there to escape though hesthere to do battle real Shinobi do not run and seek refuge.


If Minato throws his special kunai anywhere Hashirama can use his Mokutan to grow over the Kunai or special mark just as a real tree does and Minato would teleport into a tree and thats where he will meet his end in a Mokutan grave.

escape the forest then come back??
he can come back you know.
he just needs to escape from the jutsu....

 

[Dupa]

We have yet to see Hashirama in action. Until Kishi shows us the battle between Hashirama and Madara and Minato facing an opponent other than Tobi we can only widely guess until we get more proof of their abilities.

 

[DarkPhoenix]

Minato has been shown fighting in the latest manga chapter.

 

[Kenpai]

Draw, Harashima rape Madara, hence he said after that fight he was never himself. Minato was winning the fight during the Madara/Kyuubi invasion. So if we're saying that Madara was weaker when he fought Minato I'm going with Harashima for the win. But we can't really judge it of what we saw or read...

 

[Dupa]

Minato has been shown fighting in the latest manga chapter.

True but I meant like a big encounter where he uses something more than just FTG and Rasengan.

 

[Mr.Beastie]

True but I meant like a big encounter where he uses something more than just FTG and Rasengan.

thats probaby all he has beside a couple of wind techs and seals

 

[Saberwulf]

Hashimara doesnt have the darkness jutsu its the 2nd who has didnt u see the 1 and 2 v 3rd hokage fight 0_o

 

[Olorin]

thats probaby all he has beside a couple of wind techs and seals

Only that??!

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[SasukeMangekyo5]

Hashimara doesnt have the darkness jutsu its the 2nd who has didnt u see the 1 and 2 v 3rd hokage fight 0_o

Well in the anime, Tobirama was seen using it while in the Manga Hashirama was seen using it, it must be a mistake or both of them can use it.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

escape the forest then come back??
he can come back you know.
he just needs to escape from the jutsu....

How will he come back when the seals have been swallowed by the trees.....so he will be teleporting back into a tree where he will die.

Hashimara doesnt have the darkness jutsu its the 2nd who has didnt u see the 1 and 2 v 3rd hokage fight 0_o

Both the 1st ans 2nd have that jutsu actually.

 

[-Hades-]

He's not there to escape though hesthere to do battle real Shinobi do not run and seek refuge.


If Minato throws his special kunai anywhere Hashirama can use his Mokutan to grow over the Kunai or special mark just as a real tree does and Minato would teleport into a tree and thats where he will meet his end in a Mokutan grave.

Lol Minato teleporting into a tree xd
Let me ask you this, if he marked you, would he teleport inside of you? )
He teleports near the seal, so in order for that to be effective, that tree has to be pretty thick...
I thing destroying the seal would be effective.
And also we have not seen enough of any of them... i could surely say that Minato mastered at least 2 elements... ok 1 for sure... but everyone would yell and say prove it, which i can't but it is clear that he does... so it is useless.

 

[Kakashi Fang]

Lol Minato teleporting into a tree xd
Let me ask you this, if he marked you, would he teleport inside of you? )
He teleports near the seal, so in order for that to be effective, that tree has to be pretty thick...
I thing destroying the seal would be effective.
And also we have not seen enough of any of them... i could surely say that Minato mastered at least 2 elements... ok 1 for sure... but everyone would yell and say prove it, which i can't but it is clear that he does... so it is useless.

Of course if he marked me he would teleport next to me but lets say I was the size of Chouza and the seal was inside his intestines surely the 4th would have at least a foot stuck inside of Chouza.

With that being said if the 1st made tree's grow over all of the 4th's marked kunai when the fourth teleported he would surely end up in the trunk of a massive tree since we all know the 1st did not make the foundation of the Leaf using saplings.

And yes it is useless you cannot say he has any elements unless you have seen him using them...He just has chakra control as far as we know.

 

[-Hades-]

Ok well Kakashi said that most Jounins have 2 elements mastered... and also Minato intended to mix the rasengan with his own element so this should make it clear that he has at least 1 element... maybe 2... he was Hokage. But still can't link a manga page to show that he does and some will argue and i don't want to go there.
And i doubt Minato would teleport inside a tree... if it would influence it at all it would most likely make it useless, and Minato would not be able to teleport at that specific spot.